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[Except for lads like Wayne Rooney, obviously, who would play for free]

You do realise that most footballers prime motivation is money? Except for lads like Wayne Rooney, obviously, who would play for free. If Liverpool are able to pay high enough wages for a 'top" centre half then the player will more than likely join.

Ha Ha you nearly had me there

[I personally believe that this will be his last job in football as I cannot see him coming out with any credit left.]

I don't know how to feel about this situation anymore.  The manager is spineless, gutless, powerless and totally inept at the job he has been graced.  The media is spinning hard for him but he has lost it and I personally believe that this will be his last job in football as I cannot see him coming out with any credit left.   Bingo is right, there is not a top 4 squad yet but there is a squad with the right guidance who should be touching the top 6 and not 3 points off relegation.  He has been the steward of the worst run for Liverpool since before Shanklys time.  While I do believe the owners are being careful in what they are doing, ie that they are looking for a new manager, there needs to be something done in the short term before the club really gets locked into a relegation fight because if they do I fear that there is a really big chance they will go down. 

The owners have been conspicious in not backing him publically as have the players but the reality is that if Bolton beat them at the weekend, and there is a possibility that will happen.  By the time Liverpool play Blackburn away they could conceiveably be in the bottom 3.  5 points above the bottom of the table is not where Liverpool should be with the players that are there so it is vital that the decision is made now to move him on and bring Kenny in short term with a clear mandate to save the season.  I think it will happen.

Did he not leave Blackburn with a similar cloud over him? 

Can you see anybody wanting to take over?

Are you serious? loads of managers would walk to Anfield barefoot for the job

Yeah it works fine Pints, I set up a 26 county account last week for the rte player!  Was hoping The paul Galvin Documentary would be on it, but no joy!

[There is no way that the likes of Stoke, Sunderland & Blackpool who are currently above Liverpool have better players]

I know Liverpool are not good enough to finish in the top 5 but they would have a good enough squad to finish 6/7/8. There is no way that the likes of Stoke, Sunderland & Blackpool who are currently above Liverpool have better players but they have managers who have organized their teams so they know what their jobs are....not a team that has 3 centre midfielders in midfielder with one on right midfield & a limited right winger converted from striker playing on the left wing....no-one had a clue where they were playing.

But I also believe the players should take alot of responsibilty, a complete lack of effort & urgency. Wolves were so comfortable it was unbelievable.

The only solution is Woy to go, as the players aren't playing for him.

thats debatable. I have said as last 2 years, take out Torres and Gerrard and they have nobody much better than those 3 clubs have.

were you saying that 2 years ago when they were sitting top of the league? 

Very sad news, RIP

New manager, same old shambles!

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/19043/

No big deal.

Cole has 10, Jovo 11 and Rieira loses his

Jovanovic has got Xabi's old no. 14 according to the official site, although they did say he was no. 10 last week so who knows 

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/get-cole-10-on-your-back

[Sure why would Crouch go from Spurs in CL qualification to Liverpoo]

Today's game was the first I have seen of Jovanovic and he looks a good acquisition, particulalry on a free.  Strong on the ball, clever and nows were the goal is.  Definitely a good addition on today's showing.

Might have to buy back Crouchy though and get rid of Torres

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ3haDsIZvo

Sure why would Crouch go from Spurs in CL qualification to Liverpool 

Maybe the same reason he left a CL team to go to portsmouth 

"Liverpool are sending 12 players (13 if you count Milan Jovanovic whose Bosman signing is going through) to the World Cup. Or an entire team: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Babel, Gerrard, Mascherano, Rodriguez, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Kyrgiakos, Jovanovic.

Eleven Chelsea players flew out to South Africa, the same number as Arsenal, and Manchester United sent eight. Does that look like he's left Anfield bare of talent?"

Taking that arguement at face value, he is saying the players have quality then? If that's the case you'd assume the reason they finished 7th was that the manager was s***e.

The players do have quality, they finished 7th because they had a bad season.  Did they finish 2nd the season before because the manager was brilliant?

A lot of the key men were injured for large parts of the season, Gerrard, Torres, Johnson.  to a lesser extent skrtel and Aurelio. Aquilani a quality player who could have been key was diagnosed to be fit for the start of October but ended up missing most of the season! Mascheranos form was poor for the first few months after having his head turned by barca. 
A lot of games drawn and lost due to goals conceded in the last minute or two of games had an effect on the teams confidence which they found hard to regain.

Off field events such as ongoing ownership / finacial situation at the club also had an affect on their poor season, but Rafa wasn't perfect, he made plenty of mistakes and was stubborn as usual,  Maybe a change in management was needed to freshen things up and get the team motivated as a lot of the players didn't seem to be motivated last season under Rafa.

It is easy to read the papers, watch football focus, and sky sports news and lap up what some of these so called experts say, when in fact they are talkin a pile of shite!  Mark Lawerson said this week that the team that Rafa left was no better than the team that houillier  left, FFS can he not remeber that team? Biscan, Traore, Diao!! 

people can say whatever they like about Rafa, all I know is he won the Champions League, and got the team to another final, and semi final, turning liverpool into one of the best teams in the CL at the time!  He also won the FA Cup and finished runner up in the league, mounting a serious title challenge and amassing their highest ever points total, FACT!  Im grateful for what he has done for LFC and hope he goes on to be succesful with his future club, which im sure he will!

he was a bit like the two Brian's during their stint managing Armagh, he had all the talent in the world at his disposal and managed to underachieve, that said to win the CL was a tremendous feat and the FA cup win was nice but when you start quoting points totals as a measure of  success you have low expectations and are stretching to make your argument.

If Ferguson had managed Liverpool in that time  I reckon they would have won a lot more then they did, same goes for wegner.

All the talent in the world? he inherited a poor squad, added a few players and won the CL in his 1st season, how did he underachieve with that? if anything he overachieved!  Is this the same Wenger who hasn't won a trophy in 6 years and whos team finished below Rafas in 3 out of the last 5 seasons?

"Liverpool are sending 12 players (13 if you count Milan Jovanovic whose Bosman signing is going through) to the World Cup. Or an entire team: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Babel, Gerrard, Mascherano, Rodriguez, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Kyrgiakos, Jovanovic.

Eleven Chelsea players flew out to South Africa, the same number as Arsenal, and Manchester United sent eight. Does that look like he's left Anfield bare of talent?"

Taking that arguement at face value, he is saying the players have quality then? If that's the case you'd assume the reason they finished 7th was that the manager was s***e.

The players do have quality, they finished 7th because they had a bad season.  Did they finish 2nd the season before because the manager was brilliant?

A lot of the key men were injured for large parts of the season, Gerrard, Torres, Johnson.  to a lesser extent skrtel and Aurelio. Aquilani a quality player who could have been key was diagnosed to be fit for the start of October but ended up missing most of the season! Mascheranos form was poor for the first few months after having his head turned by barca. 
A lot of games drawn and lost due to goals conceded in the last minute or two of games had an effect on the teams confidence which they found hard to regain.

Off field events such as ongoing ownership / finacial situation at the club also had an affect on their poor season, but Rafa wasn't perfect, he made plenty of mistakes and was stubborn as usual,  Maybe a change in management was needed to freshen things up and get the team motivated as a lot of the players didn't seem to be motivated last season under Rafa.

It is easy to read the papers, watch football focus, and sky sports news and lap up what some of these so called experts say, when in fact they are talkin a pile of shite!  Mark Lawerson said this week that the team that Rafa left was no better than the team that houillier  left, FFS can he not remeber that team? Biscan, Traore, Diao!! 

people can say whatever they like about Rafa, all I know is he won the Champions League, and got the team to another final, and semi final, turning liverpool into one of the best teams in the CL at the time!  He also won the FA Cup and finished runner up in the league, mounting a serious title challenge and amassing their highest ever points total, FACT!  Im grateful for what he has done for LFC and hope he goes on to be succesful with his future club, which im sure he will!

Yeah I noticed that as well, maybe its just a sample kit, if they were allowed to change the colour of the logo you would think they would have went with red rather than black?

I don't rate him. Never have.

always amazes me how folk just casually dismiss Martin O'Neill...personally Id love to have him in charge @ Anfield

Id rather have Alex McLeish

went for

Coventry 8/11
Bury 5/4
Northampton 2/5
Bristol Rovers 3/4

A Wee treble for friday (all short price tips!)

Ayr  2.10   Nafaath
Leic 2.30   Picaroon
Win 3.45   Meath All Star

should pay 8/9to1

Cheers lad, nice wee lift before Cheltenham! Hopefully add to it tomorrow, got word for an e/w on Pepe Simo in the Imperial Cup at sandown, Ruby on board, around 6/1 at the min.

[He may as well have hung out a white flag and said "we're done for"]

Fcuk the £15m, road him now I say.  He may as well have hung out a white flag and said "we're done for".  What sort of impression will that make with the players!  Gone are the days when all business was done in doors, every bit of Liverpool's dealings are played out in the press.

He may be using this as some warped attempt to gear the players into making an effort but if he has to resort to this he clearly does not have the confidence of the squad.  Good luck and don't let the door hit your fat arse on the way out is what I say!!!

Whats he done now?