Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Tyrone Gaa]

If what's been reported here & elsewhere (it's reached Belfast Live) is true, then other than suspensions of the perpetrators involved the team should start next season on negative league points. Some clubs can absorb pretty much any monetary fine thrown at them, but they'll soon soften their cough if they were for example made to start the 2023 season on -3 points which no amount of money could buy out. The only issue I see, from looking at the Official Guide, is wherever such a sanction would be robust enough against inevitable appeals.

Tyrone as a county need to get tough on it otherwise it will be the police and the courts that rule on these assaults. This type of incident is guaranteed crop up at least once every year in our club game.  I remember videos doing the rounds of a Loughmacrory game not that long ago. Too often Tyrone CCC are quick to ignore the problems and hope in time the incident will slip of the agenda. (Until the next time)

Tyrone should launch a 1 punch can kill education program around the clubs and tackle these incidents head on instead of waiting on negative publicity to come every so often.

[the prodigy]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

He was on to check on an injured player. Certainly wasn't acting in an aggressive manner, may have had words with the perpetrator though - don't think that makes you fair game for this kind of action?

[trailer]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

Absolutely ridiculous take.

[Tyrone Gaa]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

Prodigy sounds like you're looking to excuse a violent attack that left a man hospitalised because he dared enter a pitch involving his team. Was he even on the pitch? He was lying by the sideline. Hard to see from the stand side where exactly he was positioned. He certainly didn't approach the player seeking engagement.

The referee who was as bad as they come, certainly didn't help the game. He failed to deal with other in game incidents as the game temperature increased. There wasn't a full fixture program last weekend you do wonder where the good referees were, or why they were not allocated what was effectively as important as a senior championship game.

[the prodigy]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

He was on to check on an injured player. Certainly wasn't acting in an aggressive manner, may have had words with the perpetrator though - don't think that makes you fair game for this kind of action?

It would depend on what the words were, if the player felt threatened he has every right to defend himself. That man had no business entering the field of play or slabbering at players. There was no way he would have been hit if he had kept himself on the side line. Its his own fault he got a slap and hopefully he learns from it.   

[Tyrone Gaa]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

He was on to check on an injured player. Certainly wasn't acting in an aggressive manner, may have had words with the perpetrator though - don't think that makes you fair game for this kind of action?

It would depend on what the words were, if the player felt threatened he has every right to defend himself. That man had no business entering the field of play or slabbering at players. There was no way he would have been hit if he had kept himself on the side line. Its his own fault he got a slap and hopefully he learns from it.   

I can only hope you don't hold a coaching position within any club or are in a position to influence youth. 

[the prodigy]

Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasn't just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

He was on to check on an injured player. Certainly wasn't acting in an aggressive manner, may have had words with the perpetrator though - don't think that makes you fair game for this kind of action?

It would depend on what the words were, if the player felt threatened he has every right to defend himself. That man had no business entering the field of play or slabbering at players. There was no way he would have been hit if he had kept himself on the side line. Its his own fault he got a slap and hopefully he learns from it.   

I can only hope you don't hold a coaching position within any club or are in a position to influence youth.

Do you think it is ok for a manager/coach to come onto the pitch during the game to have a go or threaten opposition players? do you think that doing something like this is almost certainly going to cause some sort of physical altercation? There are 30 lads out there battling to win a game and when someone comes onto the field that has no business being there it gets tempers up. Hes a big boy, he knew what he was doing going onto that pitch and knew what the consequences could be. At the end of the day when you approach someone in a threatening manner you have to be prepared for what might happen.   

[tyrone08]

Anyone know what actually happened. There were enough one punch kill incidents in tyrone over the last number of years to know that it's only a matter of time before someone is killed at a gaa game.

Been at a few Moy games including some of the junior games and have always found there coaches very quick to shout about minor issues. It doesn't excuse what happened which is very serious.

[smort]

The prodigy having a shocker here

[Tyrone Dreamer]

Did the Moy mentor in question attempt to put his hands up to be ready to strike someone?

If so, then that is the only reasonable excuse to strike at them as you can claim self-defence one your part. Fight or flight, hit before getting hit.

Otherwise there is no excuse. The better man either retorts with a measured verbal response or better yet walks away from provocation, no matter where on the pitch/sidelines it occurs.

His hands were down and he was not approaching the Clonoe player - I'd say a few words had been exchanged. There is no way the Clonoe player in question felt in any way physically intimidated.

[Tyrone Gaa]

I'm not sure what game Prodigy watched.

When the incident occurred there was only 3-4 men in the vicinity to know what words may or may not have been exchanged. So either he was one of those people or he doesn't actually know what was said (if anything). It could be the case that the Moy manager was issuing instructions to his player in the 9th minute of added time. I don't know so I won't make that claim.

He didn't move towards the Clonoe player.

During the game the referee twice stopped the game to warn the Clonoe line on their behavior (possibly sending 1 mentor off). The temperature was rising in the dying minutes before the added time.

All this is before discussing that a Moy player sustained a broken jaw. Maybe he said something he should have either Prodigy 

Belfast Telegraph now on it, as well as Belfast live and hogan stand.

To come on here and try to justify the assault is scary that some people out there think this is warranted.

[ClubScene13]

Interesting to see what should come of it now. In terms of guidelines and rule books I really don't know what can be done outside of the obvious lengthy individual suspensions, which will likely be handed out.

Anything beyond this would be breaking new ground and more than likely result in appeals.
Worth noting the Moy had a player sent off for striking in the same incident, so that adds another layer to how this is dealt with.

Bottom line, the injuries incurred are unacceptable. I do struggle however to differentiate between one incident and another purely down to "damage caused" per se.

If a game this weekend has a similar one punch striking incident, are we to say this is fine as long as the player felled gets back on his feet and carries on? Obviously it is not fine, but this is normally the attitude with these things, as they happen regularly throughout a year's football. This one is especially tricky due to what happened the two lads, which again, should never happen at a football match.

All in all I wouldn't foresee much more than the usual lengthy individual punishments, what else can you do within the realms of sensible application of rules?

[Tyrone Dreamer]

Interesting to see what should come of it now. In terms of guidelines and rule books I really don't know what can be done outside of the obvious lengthy individual suspensions, which will likely be handed out.

Anything beyond this would be breaking new ground and more than likely result in appeals.
Worth noting the Moy had a player sent off for striking in the same incident, so that adds another layer to how this is dealt with.

Bottom line, the injuries incurred are unacceptable. I do struggle however to differentiate between one incident and another purely down to "damage caused" per se.

If a game this weekend has a similar one punch striking incident, are we to say this is fine as long as the player felled gets back on his feet and carries on? Obviously it is not fine, but this is normally the attitude with these things, as they happen regularly throughout a year's football. This one is especially tricky due to what happened the two lads, which again, should never happen at a football match.

All in all I wouldn't foresee much more than the usual lengthy individual punishments, what else can you do within the realms of sensible application of rules?

I believe the Moy player was sent off for being the third man in. He charged over when the manager was hit but don't believe he struck. Clonoe are meant to have videoed the game, I'm sure they'll make it available to clear all these things up.

[Stan]

If there was a call to go to the PSNI to pursue an assault charge, as a matter of interest, how would everyone feel about that?
Curious to see what the appetite on here would be to go down that route.
Not sure what value the county board would bring here to be honest