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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 24, 2022, 01:44:06 PM »
OK - I've been here a long time on this board (ever since it ran on a WWWboard CGI script, through to two EZboard variations and then finally on its own server) and the T***yreagh shtick comes from a time when (most) posters on this board whilst otherwise very knowledgeable in GAA affairs didn't take themselves too seriously. Long time members of this forum know who I am & that includes several from T***yreagh, not one of whom has evergiven me grief over my self-censoring because unlike some on here who really need to pull that stick out of their arseholes, they get the joke. We're both more than capable of giving & taking it.

If you find it a problem, deal with it.

And if you think I'm bad, I know one guy from Edendork whom refers to O'Neill Park as Ibrox.

Clonoe wanís call the Fianna pitch Ibrox, thatís an old one

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 13, 2022, 02:57:10 PM »
Some win for Galbally there.

Goal hungry, brilliant to see. Well done Galbally. Letís hope Errigal can do similar.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 13, 2022, 12:08:28 PM »
Scenes yesterday at the Naomh Barrůg and Oulart-the-Ballagh games show that the GAA need to get a grip on games. Itís not just a Clonoe problem  :P

This physical game nonsense doesnít cut it. Rugby is a physical sport and you donít see the cheap shots week in / week out. Itís upto the GAA to stamp this out. Congress should look at this. A few hefty bans and suspensions should get the message across.

GAA need to be able to self police their games. Hopefully a club will bring a proposal to convention or a county to congress.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 12, 2022, 04:07:18 PM »
Division 2/3 play-off: Clogher 1-17 Drumragh 2-7 - Clogher remain in Division 2, Drumragh remain in Division 3.

Division 1/2 play-off: Moy 0-20 Edendork 0-21 - Edendork promoted to Division 1, Moy relegated to Division 2.

Moy V Edendork good game well reffed, could have went either way. McCurry and Conroy were standout for their teams. Edendork will need to improve a lot or they will be visiting Division 2 again very soon.

Moy goalkeeper was good, few dodgy kickouts that had Edendork punished may have been out of sight.

Entertaining game.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 11, 2022, 12:48:15 PM »
Just heard this morning the CCC have already ruled on the Moy v Clonoe game.

For assaulting the Moy manager the aggressor gotÖÖ

A 4 week suspension!!!

Literally off Scott free, wonít be a league game for 10-12 weeks at least. This is grapevine information not a confirmed source.

No ban for the jawbreaker.

If this is the case and thereís no grounds to change this punishment Iíd fully back legal involvement. Above I stated that the GAA should be allowed to handle the situation, they have shown clearly that they arenít able to either because of restrictions in the rule book or a week Tyrone CCC

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 09, 2022, 02:07:54 PM »
Absolute nonsense to say the Moy manager picked a fight. There is only 2-3 people in that corner of the pitch that would know what was said exactly.

My best guess is he was maybe encouraging time wasting already being in 9th minute of additional time. The moy goalkeeper was hitting a free out. Didnít look to be any aggression on his part. He was hit front on so I suppose he had the chance to defend himself  :-[ :-[ :-[

Some toxic accounts on here, particularly regarding this issue. Thereís one thing trying to defend your club. Itís different gloating / encouraging violence and broken bones.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 08, 2022, 04:52:43 PM »
All this talk of STOOPS and RUC, holy good god, itís not 1990.

Biggest STOOP in the country is Michelle OíNeill if youíre writing the cack.

Iíve already said Iíd prefer the county board be given the opportunity to deal with the issue without the need for Police or Civil procedures outside of GAA disciplinary guidelines.

Regarding the Refereeís report, I donít think it will hold much weight as the Jawbreaker was not cautioned or noted by the referee, unless there is a video used he could walk away unscathed. If thatís the case then I believe thatís where you begin to question the process.

Both camps have been quiet, as have the media. Letís wait and see what comes from Tyrone
CCC. It should be robust and deal with the matter sufficiently, thatís the challenge.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 08, 2022, 11:41:12 AM »
Drumragh V Clogher - Saturday 1:30pm in Beragh
Moy V Edendork - Saturday 1:30pm in Donaghmore
Any thoughts/predicitions on these 2?

Drumragh & Edendork (if McCurry is fit) struggled toward the end of the game against Pomeroy. Stayed on the field, so I assume heís ok.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 04, 2022, 11:21:43 AM »
How long do the CCC take to issue sanctions? The game was almost a week ago now and not a peep from Tyrone, Moy or Clonoe.

Newspapers and online media have ran with it, but there is no idea when we can expect an outcome. Surely it must be due very soon or could it be issued and everyone is tight lipped.

Newspapers maybe have no real interest just see a quick story and a good way to lay a boot into the GAA. Hoganstand just scroll round looking stories they donít do their own journalism. Teamtalk are afraid to tackle with anything controversial. Theyíll never address what is currently the biggest story in Tyrone GAA club football.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 03, 2022, 10:06:21 AM »
Interesting to see what should come of it now. In terms of guidelines and rule books I really don't know what can be done outside of the obvious lengthy individual suspensions, which will likely be handed out.

Anything beyond this would be breaking new ground and more than likely result in appeals.
Worth noting the Moy had a player sent off for striking in the same incident, so that adds another layer to how this is dealt with.

Bottom line, the injuries incurred are unacceptable. I do struggle however to differentiate between one incident and another purely down to "damage caused" per se.

If a game this weekend has a similar one punch striking incident, are we to say this is fine as long as the player felled gets back on his feet and carries on? Obviously it is not fine, but this is normally the attitude with these things, as they happen regularly throughout a year's football. This one is especially tricky due to what happened the two lads, which again, should never happen at a football match.

All in all I wouldn't foresee much more than the usual lengthy individual punishments, what else can you do within the realms of sensible application of rules?

You know what will happen. Same as with every other incident, sweet FA and then it will all happen again somewhere else and somewhere else and the GAA will wonder why they have a problem. I understand Doris from Clonoe is finished now anyway.
The issue is much bigger than Moy v Clonoe or Tyrone GAA. It needs a national strategy, coupled with heavy sanctions from HQ for player and club. Stamp it right out before there is a fatality.

I would assume the same problems occur all over the country. No linesmen or neutral umpires at league games meaning the referee has no chance of seeing many of these incidents unfold. A lot of the time even when there are neutral officials and incidents are seen yellow cards are issued rather than the appropriate action. We're effectively telling our club players that we can't guarantee their wellbeing because our referees can't see everything that is going on.

One of the incidents in the weekends game was seen and a red card issued but the punishments don't tally with the actions.

Referee was assisted by linesmen and umpires last weekend

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 03, 2022, 09:49:32 AM »
Does anyone actually know what sanctions are possible within the GAA disciplinary guide?

Could Clonoe see their pitch closed?
What is the maximum ban the 2 perpetrators can face?

These things canít be made up off the cuff, there will be guidance the CCC have to follow.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 02, 2022, 11:31:41 PM »
If there was a call to go to the PSNI to pursue an assault charge, as a matter of interest, how would everyone feel about that?
Curious to see what the appetite on here would be to go down that route.
Not sure what value the county board would bring here to be honest

Personally I wouldnít ever want to see the police involved in any GAA matter, I do on this occasion understand why it could be an option. Both 1 punch cases and the outcomes for both victims are horrendous. However the GAA and this case Tyrone GAA need to show they are capable of self policing. This wonít see the moy manager or injured player get paid damages but if the sanctions handed down are severe enough they should feel justice has been done, and also set a precedent for the future.

I donít believe any player takes to the field with intent do hurt or maim another player, they are victims of circumstance. However no player should take to a pitch and not be able to go to work the next day/month due to the reckless decisions of an individual who is unable to have self control over their emotions.

Belfast Telegraph in their article have asked the moy and Clonoe for statements, it will be interesting to see if those are forthcoming and how the CCC deal with the matter.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 02, 2022, 06:27:44 PM »
Iím not sure what game Prodigy watched.

When the incident occurred there was only 3-4 men in the vicinity to know what words may or may not have been exchanged. So either he was one of those people or he doesnít actually know what was said (if anything). It could be the case that the Moy manager was issuing instructions to his player in the 9th minute of added time. I donít know so I wonít make that claim.

He didnít move towards the Clonoe player.

During the game the referee twice stopped the game to warn the Clonoe line on their behavior (possibly sending 1 mentor off). The temperature was rising in the dying minutes before the added time.

All this is before discussing that a Moy player sustained a broken jaw. Maybe he said something he should have either Prodigy  :-X

Belfast Telegraph now on it, as well as Belfast live and hogan stand.

To come on here and try to justify the assault is scary that some people out there think this is warranted.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 02, 2022, 04:30:36 PM »
Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasnít just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

He was on to check on an injured player. Certainly wasn't acting in an aggressive manner, may have had words with the perpetrator though - don't think that makes you fair game for this kind of action?

It would depend on what the words were, if the player felt threatened he has every right to defend himself. That man had no business entering the field of play or slabbering at players. There was no way he would have been hit if he had kept himself on the side line. Its his own fault he got a slap and hopefully he learns from it.   

I can only hope you donít hold a coaching position within any club or are in a position to influence youth. 

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 02, 2022, 03:56:54 PM »
Heard today that Ryan Coleman had his jaw broke at Clonoe hands on Saturday also. It wasnít just the manager that needed hospital attention. Huge blow for the moy in their hope of survival.

County Board must take action to deter such thuggery.

Scandalous! How long are these guys going to get away with this stuff. always off the ball? County Board will do nothing. Involve the police i reckon

Why is Everyone afraid to mention the perpetrators?  Patrick Dorris hit the manager and Jerome McClure hit Coleman.

These guys deserve no anonymity, they should be responsible for their actions.  The county board need to be strong on this type of attack, long bans should be handed out

This won't finish until someone is killed by a "one punch" and it's only a matter of time. If you take the amount of incidents that happen one will eventually end with a fatality.

one of the big questions here is why was there a manager on the field getting involved with a player? Thats a dangerous place to put yourself in if your obviously not able to defend yourself. He might think twice now before he comes onto the pitch now during a heated game.

Prodigy sounds like youíre looking to excuse a violent attack that left a man hospitalised because he dared enter a pitch involving his team. Was he even on the pitch? He was lying by the sideline. Hard to see from the stand side where exactly he was positioned. He certainly didnít approach the player seeking engagement.

The referee who was as bad as they come, certainly didnít help the game. He failed to deal with other in game incidents as the game temperature increased. There wasnít a full fixture program last weekend you do wonder where the good referees were, or why they were not allocated what was effectively as important as a senior championship game.


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