Super 8s

[Cunny Funt]

Put yourself in Galway or Donegal's shoes.

Both are expected to lose first time out against Kerry and Dublin respectively.

Galway would then be facing into the bear pit of Newbridge while Donegal then have a losable game in Roscommon.

For me Galway are on a really sticky wicket as regards the fixture schedule.

I think Kildare could take Monaghan next week and if they do, they could put Galway out in Newbridge.

Tyrone's schedule is a good one with a view to them contending for an All-Ireland final place.

They'll beat Roscommon and then have what is effectively a free shot at Dublin in Omagh.

If they come through the group, I feel that free shot at Dublin will benefit them hugely in a semi-final and/or final.

Putting myself in Galway shoes i would have 4 week break while the time round 2 comes around Kildare will be playing in their 5th game in 5 weeks and a fresher Galway should be prevailing there. They then have Monaghan at home to reach the semi final. You can see why the bookies have Galway favourties to finish in the top two in this group.

Tyrone will probably need to win two games i can't see them beating Dublin and Ballybofey is one of the toughest places to pick up a victory

[Baggio90]

Ros are 3/1 against Tyrone which looks attractive
The aim of the competition is to go further than the Super 8 .
Odds in order are Dubs, Kerry, Galway, Donegal , Tyrone, Monaghan, Kildare and Roscommon
It will be interesting to see how the qualifiers  get on
for Kildare and Ros getting to the super 8 is already an achievement.
Tyrone and Monaghan would presumably be hoping for a semifinal.

Are Galway hoping for a semi final? You'd imagine they'd have to be having failed to make one for the past 16 years.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

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Tyrone will probably need to win two games i can't see them beating Dublin and Ballybofey is one of the toughest places to pick up a victory

Agreed. 

Best we can hope for, realistically, is a draw in both Omagh and Ballybofey, but sure all to play, and go all out, for.

[joemamas]

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/287562

"Dublin will be the team in the Super 8s without a home game"


July 08, 2018

Charlie Redmond believes that Dublin playing their league games at Croke Park is good for 'clubs and counties all over the country'.

The Hill 16 legend has had his say on the debate about Jim Gavin's team's familiarity with GAA HQ giving them an unfair advantage over their opponents.

He argues that the money raised from Dublin's Croke Park outings benefits the wider GAA community.

"Dublin will be the team in the Super 8s without a home game," the 1995 All-Ireland winner writes in his Sunday World column today.

"Your home ground is the one where the county board maintains the pitch, tries to improve the facilities for players and supporters, where all the county's inter-county teams can train if they want to.

"None of that applies to Croke Park. All of the above applies to Parnell Park.

"Dublin choose to play their league matches in Croke Park to get extra money for everyone. The Allianz League receipts are divided by 32.

"Most of their championship games are fixed for Croker so that the thousands of people who want to see them and their opponents play can do so in comfort.

"And so that clubs and counties all over the country can get grants from GAA HQ to improve their own pitches, clubhouses and coaching programmes."

Don't know whether to laugh or to cry. Such a serious load of bollix that article. Can't have a straight face writing that.

+1

Does not come across as the sharpest tool in the shed

[seafoid]

Ros are 3/1 against Tyrone which looks attractive
The aim of the competition is to go further than the Super 8 .
Odds in order are Dubs, Kerry, Galway, Donegal , Tyrone, Monaghan, Kildare and Roscommon
It will be interesting to see how the qualifiers  get on
for Kildare and Ros getting to the super 8 is already an achievement.
Tyrone and Monaghan would presumably be hoping for a semifinal.

Are Galway hoping for a semi final? You'd imagine they'd have to be having failed to make one for the past 16 years.

You would alright. 2016 and 2017 ended very disappointingly

[seafoid]

A lot of things can change in a month

https://youtu.be/bkg8FQl7TXI

[Esmarelda]

Roll on next week. All 8 teams arrive having put up a very good performance. The first week will be great and the second week will be even better, with all four provincial champions playing away from home. Let's hope there's plenty to play for come the third round.

Are the provincial champions not at home in week 2?

No provincial champs not at home until Round 3.

From The Bunker, in light of the above, are you still confident the Dubs won't play a non-dead rubber game outside Croke Park?

[Hound]

Roll on next week. All 8 teams arrive having put up a very good performance. The first week will be great and the second week will be even better, with all four provincial champions playing away from home. Let's hope there's plenty to play for come the third round.

Are the provincial champions not at home in week 2?

No, home game in the final round. This is something that I'd like to see changed as it seems to disadvantage the provincial winners. On the other hand, I think the qualifiers should have a week break before the super 8s begin

I think it's much better the way it is.

The provincial champions have home advantage in the final game, which can be crucial. If provincial winners don't have their away game until the last game, they may already be qualified before their away game. There'd be [even more] uproar if Dublin's last game was away, as it could potentially be meaningless

[Hound]

Just realised that the hurling quarter-finals (Clare v Wex and KK v Lim) are on next weekend also.

They'll both be live presumably, so probably means one or two of the football games won't be covered live.

Looking at the expected TV coverage, it looks like RTE may be covering 3 games on Sunday, with coverage starting at 1230.

[blewuporstuffed]

Just realised that the hurling quarter-finals (Clare v Wex and KK v Lim) are on next weekend also.

They'll both be live presumably, so probably means one or two of the football games won't be covered live.

Looking at the expected TV coverage, it looks like RTE may be covering 3 games on Sunday, with coverage starting at 1230.

The TV coverage seems to be a complete shambles this year to be honest. It its split over far to many broadcasters and online services and its hard to keep track of who is showing what /when.

[Hound]

I see Brolly has tweeted that RTE covering Dublin v Donegal live.

Lee Keegan on the panel, along with himself and T O'Se.

[seafoid]

Just realised that the hurling quarter-finals (Clare v Wex and KK v Lim) are on next weekend also.

They'll both be live presumably, so probably means one or two of the football games won't be covered live.

Looking at the expected TV coverage, it looks like RTE may be covering 3 games on Sunday, with coverage starting at 1230.

The schedule is compacted because they have moved the all Irelands into August despite having more games between the Super 8 and round robin in hurling.
There is no margin for replays. They have to have another look at this for next week.
It's not fair on Kilkenny to have to play a quarter final a week after a very intensive Leinster final replay, for example.

[Hound]

Just realised that the hurling quarter-finals (Clare v Wex and KK v Lim) are on next weekend also.

They'll both be live presumably, so probably means one or two of the football games won't be covered live.

Looking at the expected TV coverage, it looks like RTE may be covering 3 games on Sunday, with coverage starting at 1230.

The schedule is compacted because they have moved the all Irelands into August despite having more games between the Super 8 and round robin in hurling.
There is no margin for replays. They have to have another look at this for next week.
It's not fair on Kilkenny to have to play a quarter final a week after a very intensive Leinster final replay, for example.

It was a mistake not allowing Galway and Kilkenny play extra time the first day.

[JoG2]

Just realised that the hurling quarter-finals (Clare v Wex and KK v Lim) are on next weekend also.

They'll both be live presumably, so probably means one or two of the football games won't be covered live.

Looking at the expected TV coverage, it looks like RTE may be covering 3 games on Sunday, with coverage starting at 1230.

The TV coverage seems to be a complete shambles this year to be honest. It its split over far to many broadcasters and online services and its hard to keep track of who is showing what /when.

the Hoganstand fixtures section is good for keeping an eye on who is broadcasting what games BUOS

[RedHand88]

I could swear sky mentioned they were covering roscommon v Tyrone on Saturday at 5. Did anyone else see this?