Super 8s

[Syferus]

So Monaghan and Clare have had almighty falls today. Both losses will be damaging.

Both are going to be awkward draws for the R1 winners.

[From the Bunker]

So Monaghan and Clare have had almighty falls today. Both losses will be damaging.

Both are going to be awkward draws for the R1 winners.

Absolutely! Just both took big hits on Morale today! Round One Winners will have shook off the cobwebs and have a win behind them. There seems to be a balancing out of teams below Kerry and Dublin. Think we are heading back to the '70's again which will suit the media, but not the rest of us mere mortals!

[Mayo4Sam14]

Q
Apologies for any grief I may cause,
but, lets assume that
Dublin, Monaghan, Galway and Kerry win provinces.
Roscommon as Connaught runners up qualify,
Donegal as Ulster runners up qualify,
Mayo (manage to stay alive and beat Leinster runners up)
and for argument sake Tyrone Beat Cork,

What will group A and B look like.

The Groups are as follows:

1. Munster Winner, Connacht Winner, Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner, Leinster Winner, Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

Based on your assumptions, the groups would be:
1. Kerry, Galway, Donegal, Mayo
2. Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone & Roscommon

The fixtures would then be as follows:
14/15 Jul
Kerry V Galway -  Croke park
Donegal V Mayo - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Donegal V Galway - Donegal home venue
Mayo V Kerry - Mayo home venue
4/5th Aug
Kerry V Donegal - Kerry home venue
Galway V Mayo - Galway home venue

and in the other group:
14/15 Jul
Monaghan V Dublin -  Croke park
Tyrone V Roscommon - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Tyrone V Dublin - Tyrone home venue
Roscommon V Monaghan - Roscommon home venue
4/5th Aug
Monaghan V Tyrone - Monaghan home venue
Dublin V Roscommon - Dublin home venue

So how does today's results change things?

[Hound]

So Monaghan and Clare have had almighty falls today. Both losses will be damaging.

Both are going to be awkward draws for the R1 winners.

Absolutely! Just both took big hits on Morale today! Round One Winners will have shook off the cobwebs and have a win behind them. There seems to be a balancing out of teams below Kerry and Dublin. Think we are heading back to the '70's again which will suit the media, but not the rest of us mere mortals!

Galway and the Rossies hammering the lesser lights too. Maybe should be just the Super 4!

[Farrandeelin]

Q
Apologies for any grief I may cause,
but, lets assume that
Dublin, Monaghan, Galway and Kerry win provinces.
Roscommon as Connaught runners up qualify,
Donegal as Ulster runners up qualify,
Mayo (manage to stay alive and beat Leinster runners up)
and for argument sake Tyrone Beat Cork,

What will group A and B look like.

The Groups are as follows:

1. Munster Winner, Connacht Winner, Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner, Leinster Winner, Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

Based on your assumptions, the groups would be:
1. Kerry, Galway, Donegal, Mayo
2. Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone & Roscommon

The fixtures would then be as follows:
14/15 Jul
Kerry V Galway -  Croke park
Donegal V Mayo - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Donegal V Galway - Donegal home venue
Mayo V Kerry - Mayo home venue
4/5th Aug
Kerry V Donegal - Kerry home venue
Galway V Mayo - Galway home venue

and in the other group:
14/15 Jul
Monaghan V Dublin -  Croke park
Tyrone V Roscommon - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Tyrone V Dublin - Tyrone home venue
Roscommon V Monaghan - Roscommon home venue
4/5th Aug
Monaghan V Tyrone - Monaghan home venue
Dublin V Roscommon - Dublin home venue

So how does today's results change things?

Monaghan aren't guaranteed group 2.

[Mayo4Sam14]

Q
Apologies for any grief I may cause,
but, lets assume that
Dublin, Monaghan, Galway and Kerry win provinces.
Roscommon as Connaught runners up qualify,
Donegal as Ulster runners up qualify,
Mayo (manage to stay alive and beat Leinster runners up)
and for argument sake Tyrone Beat Cork,

What will group A and B look like.

The Groups are as follows:

1. Munster Winner, Connacht Winner, Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner, Leinster Winner, Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

Based on your assumptions, the groups would be:
1. Kerry, Galway, Donegal, Mayo
2. Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone & Roscommon

The fixtures would then be as follows:
14/15 Jul
Kerry V Galway -  Croke park
Donegal V Mayo - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Donegal V Galway - Donegal home venue
Mayo V Kerry - Mayo home venue
4/5th Aug
Kerry V Donegal - Kerry home venue
Galway V Mayo - Galway home venue

and in the other group:
14/15 Jul
Monaghan V Dublin -  Croke park
Tyrone V Roscommon - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Tyrone V Dublin - Tyrone home venue
Roscommon V Monaghan - Roscommon home venue
4/5th Aug
Monaghan V Tyrone - Monaghan home venue
Dublin V Roscommon - Dublin home venue

How do you know that, for example,
Mayo would be group one?

[twohands!!!]

Things are a small bit clearer in terms of the look of the groups.

1. Munster Winner (Kerry/Cork) Connacht Winner (Galway/Roscommon) Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner (Fermanagh/Down/Donegal) , Leinster Winner (Laois/Carlow/Dublin/Longford), Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

If you look at who the bookies have as favourites for the provincial titles the groups would be

1. Kerry, Galway, Fermanagh or whoever beats them from the qualifiers, Laois or Carlow or whoever beats them from the qualifiers.

2 Donegal, Dublin, Cork or whoever beats them from the qualifiers, Roscommon or whoever beats them from the qualifiers.

The draw for Round 4 where the 4 losing provincial sides will drawn against the final 4 who came through the qualifiers will be huge.

I wonder what odds you would get on all 4 Provincial winners making the semi-finals?

[From the Bunker]

So Monaghan and Clare have had almighty falls today. Both losses will be damaging.

Both are going to be awkward draws for the R1 winners.

Absolutely! Just both took big hits on Morale today! Round One Winners will have shook off the cobwebs and have a win behind them. There seems to be a balancing out of teams below Kerry and Dublin. Think we are heading back to the '70's again which will suit the media, but not the rest of us mere mortals!

Galway and the Rossies hammering the lesser lights too. Maybe should be just the Super 4!

You know it's a Super One - or should I rephrase that a Chosen One!

[Syferus]

So Monaghan and Clare have had almighty falls today. Both losses will be damaging.

Both are going to be awkward draws for the R1 winners.

Absolutely! Just both took big hits on Morale today! Round One Winners will have shook off the cobwebs and have a win behind them. There seems to be a balancing out of teams below Kerry and Dublin. Think we are heading back to the '70's again which will suit the media, but not the rest of us mere mortals!

Galway and the Rossies hammering the lesser lights too. Maybe should be just the Super 4!

You know it's a Super One - or should I rephrase that a Chosen One!

We'd have had some of the most memorable AI championships in history these last five years if it wasn't for Dublin. With them it has been a series of rote, predictable results. Outside of them there's so many teams that can beat each other. A sport rotting fro nthe top down.

[Hound]

Nothing more predictable than a 1 point win in the All Ireland final, with an odd draw thrown in.

Do you know it was the money we paid him that turned Dean Rock from a flaky enough freetaker into one the very best around, not the practice, practice, practice ?

[seafoid]

Monaghan losing changes the outlook for provincial finalists. Eg Carlow/Laois were both thinking get to Leinster final,  lose and then just one match between them and the Super 8. But now there are at least 3 highly rated D1 teams in the qualifiers.

[Maroon Manc]

Probably already mentioned but looking at the hurling teams who've played 3 weeks in a go have struggled so far, don't think any of them have won so far. You've got to wonder what state the likes of Tyrone, Mayo & Monaghan will be in as they've to play 5 weeks in a row if they all make the super 8's.

[LeoMc]

Things are a small bit clearer in terms of the look of the groups.

1. Munster Winner (Kerry/Cork) Connacht Winner (Galway/Roscommon) Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner (Fermanagh/Down/Donegal) , Leinster Winner (Laois/Carlow/Dublin/Longford), Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

If you look at who the bookies have as favourites for the provincial titles the groups would be

1. Kerry, Galway, Fermanagh or whoever beats them from the qualifiers, Laois or Carlow or whoever beats them from the qualifiers.

2 Donegal, Dublin, Cork or whoever beats them from the qualifiers, Roscommon or whoever beats them from the qualifiers.

The draw for Round 4 where the 4 losing provincial sides will drawn against the final 4 who came through the qualifiers will be huge.

I wonder what odds you would get on all 4 Provincial winners making the semi-finals?

If Fermanagh win Ulster you would get long enough odds. They will still be touring round the County with the Anglo Celt when the All-stars are announced.

[westbound]

Q
Apologies for any grief I may cause,
but, lets assume that
Dublin, Monaghan, Galway and Kerry win provinces.
Roscommon as Connaught runners up qualify,
Donegal as Ulster runners up qualify,
Mayo (manage to stay alive and beat Leinster runners up)
and for argument sake Tyrone Beat Cork,

What will group A and B look like.

The Groups are as follows:

1. Munster Winner, Connacht Winner, Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner, Leinster Winner, Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

Based on your assumptions, the groups would be:
1. Kerry, Galway, Donegal, Mayo
2. Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone & Roscommon

The fixtures would then be as follows:
14/15 Jul
Kerry V Galway -  Croke park
Donegal V Mayo - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Donegal V Galway - Donegal home venue
Mayo V Kerry - Mayo home venue
4/5th Aug
Kerry V Donegal - Kerry home venue
Galway V Mayo - Galway home venue

and in the other group:
14/15 Jul
Monaghan V Dublin -  Croke park
Tyrone V Roscommon - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Tyrone V Dublin - Tyrone home venue
Roscommon V Monaghan - Roscommon home venue
4/5th Aug
Monaghan V Tyrone - Monaghan home venue
Dublin V Roscommon - Dublin home venue

How do you know that, for example,
Mayo would be group one?

These groups are based on the assumption provided by joemamas.
If Mayo beat the leinster runners up (as assumed joemamas) in R4 of the qualifers, they would be group 1.

The bit I've bolded above is set in stone. The example groups based on assumptions will change depending on results and qualifer draws (Monaghan assumption already proved to be incorrect). Also, unless Tyrone, Mayo and Monaghan avoid each other in the R2, and R3 qualifer draws they can't all make the super 8's.

[joemamas]

Q
Apologies for any grief I may cause,
but, lets assume that
Dublin, Monaghan, Galway and Kerry win provinces.
Roscommon as Connaught runners up qualify,
Donegal as Ulster runners up qualify,
Mayo (manage to stay alive and beat Leinster runners up)
and for argument sake Tyrone Beat Cork,

What will group A and B look like.

The Groups are as follows:

1. Munster Winner, Connacht Winner, Ulster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Leinster runner (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer)

2. Ulster Winner, Leinster Winner, Munster runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer), & Connacht runner up (or team that beats them in Round4qualifer).

Based on your assumptions, the groups would be:
1. Kerry, Galway, Donegal, Mayo
2. Monaghan, Dublin, Tyrone & Roscommon

The fixtures would then be as follows:
14/15 Jul
Kerry V Galway -  Croke park
Donegal V Mayo - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Donegal V Galway - Donegal home venue
Mayo V Kerry - Mayo home venue
4/5th Aug
Kerry V Donegal - Kerry home venue
Galway V Mayo - Galway home venue

and in the other group:
14/15 Jul
Monaghan V Dublin -  Croke park
Tyrone V Roscommon - Croke park
21/22 Jul
Tyrone V Dublin - Tyrone home venue
Roscommon V Monaghan - Roscommon home venue
4/5th Aug
Monaghan V Tyrone - Monaghan home venue
Dublin V Roscommon - Dublin home venue

How do you know that, for example,
Mayo would be group one?

These groups are based on the assumption provided by joemamas.
If Mayo beat the leinster runners up (as assumed joemamas) in R4 of the qualifers, they would be group 1.

The bit I've bolded above is set in stone. The example groups based on assumptions will change depending on results and qualifer draws (Monaghan assumption already proved to be incorrect). Also, unless Tyrone, Mayo and Monaghan avoid each other in the R2, and R3 qualifer draws they can't all make the super 8's.

Thanks, please feel free to update in the coming weeks.