Westminster Election 12th December 2019

Started by Ambrose, October 29, 2019, 02:24:04 PM

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snoopdog

Its time for both communities to go back to the  more moderate . The nationalist community as stated above now need a voice in westminister . And the unionists need a more moderate party who actually want to get involved in govt. The need for SDLP the UUP and Alliance has never been greater.  The Sdlp have some good people like  Hanna, Mallon and Eastwood. Who actually care about people.  Sinn Fein i believe would be delighted with a no deal brexit as it would bring a UI closer but people would be crippled for years in the north. And Sinn Fein in a united Ireland would be irrelevant as a party.

trileacman

Looking at the figures Boris will win this election by a very large margin.
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drillsergeant

Key Battleground of South Belfast:

Brexit Referendum 2016:
Total electorate: 66,664
Turnout: 44,583 (66.9%), 3/18.
Votes to REMAIN: 30,960 (69.5%);
Votes to LEAVE: 13,596 (30.5%).
Third highest REMAIN vote share in Northern Ireland

Westminster Election 2017:
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP) 13,299 (30.4%)
Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 11,303 (25.9%)
Paula Bradshaw (Alliance) 7,946 (18.2%)
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (SF) 7,143 (16.3%)
Clare Bailey (Green) 2,241 (5.1%)
Michael Henderson (UUP) 1,527 (3.5%)
Clare Salier (Con) 246 (0.6%)

Surely the Pro-Remain parties must do a election pack here, but if they do who gets the free run? It either have to be Claire Hanna (SDLP) or Paula Bradshaw (Alliance). Views Folks??

screenexile

Quote from: drillsergeant on November 01, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
Key Battleground of South Belfast:

Brexit Referendum 2016:
Total electorate: 66,664
Turnout: 44,583 (66.9%), 3/18.
Votes to REMAIN: 30,960 (69.5%);
Votes to LEAVE: 13,596 (30.5%).
Third highest REMAIN vote share in Northern Ireland

Westminster Election 2017:
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP) 13,299 (30.4%)
Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 11,303 (25.9%)
Paula Bradshaw (Alliance) 7,946 (18.2%)
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (SF) 7,143 (16.3%)
Clare Bailey (Green) 2,241 (5.1%)
Michael Henderson (UUP) 1,527 (3.5%)
Clare Salier (Con) 246 (0.6%)

Surely the Pro-Remain parties must do a election pack here, but if they do who gets the free run? It either have to be Claire Hanna (SDLP) or Paula Bradshaw (Alliance). Views Folks??

Sinn Fein need to get out of here and let Hanna have a run at it ... it's a done deal if they do sure McDonnell was useless and nearly ousted Pengelly last time!

WT4E

Quote from: drillsergeant on November 01, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
Key Battleground of South Belfast:

Brexit Referendum 2016:
Total electorate: 66,664
Turnout: 44,583 (66.9%), 3/18.
Votes to REMAIN: 30,960 (69.5%);
Votes to LEAVE: 13,596 (30.5%).
Third highest REMAIN vote share in Northern Ireland

Westminster Election 2017:
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP) 13,299 (30.4%)
Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 11,303 (25.9%)
Paula Bradshaw (Alliance) 7,946 (18.2%)
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (SF) 7,143 (16.3%)
Clare Bailey (Green) 2,241 (5.1%)
Michael Henderson (UUP) 1,527 (3.5%)
Clare Salier (Con) 246 (0.6%)

Surely the Pro-Remain parties must do a election pack here, but if they do who gets the free run? It either have to be Claire Hanna (SDLP) or Paula Bradshaw (Alliance). Views Folks??

Would it not be possible to mobilise the Holylands if we got them sobered up??? There are lots of nationalist voters there and cant imagine it be too hard for them to change their address if they living there during the week?

screenexile

Quote from: trileacman on November 01, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
Looking at the figures Boris will win this election by a very large margin.

Way too early to tell that!! Also he's had a bad couple of days on the campaign trail so far this thing will close and it'll be a hung parliament!

WT4E

Quote from: snoopdog on November 01, 2019, 12:10:46 PM
Its time for both communities to go back to the  more moderate . The nationalist community as stated above now need a voice in westminister . And the unionists need a more moderate party who actually want to get involved in govt. The need for SDLP the UUP and Alliance has never been greater.  The Sdlp have some good people like  Hanna, Mallon and Eastwood. Who actually care about people.  Sinn Fein i believe would be delighted with a no deal brexit as it would bring a UI closer but people would be crippled for years in the north. And Sinn Fein in a united Ireland would be irrelevant as a party.

UUP had a big chance recently on a number of fronts and seem to lack serious balls... They could have been the unionist party who stood up for business & agri with the back stop but they decided to take the DUP line.

Also Aitken was probably taking a risk but one I think worth taking by saying they will run in every constituency which my have been a way back into politics for them but seems to have shit himself judging by what he said on the view last night... Election hasn't even started yet and hes fcuked it right up to save poor crying wee Nigel!!!

mouview

Quote from: trileacman on November 01, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
Looking at the figures Boris will win this election by a very large margin.

Trump continually sticking his oar in is no help to him. Also, if no Brexit party pact, then it's bound to split at least some of the Tory vote. Either way, I do think it's heading for another coalition, this time without the DUP hopefully.

imtommygunn

Quote from: screenexile on November 01, 2019, 12:33:59 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 01, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
Looking at the figures Boris will win this election by a very large margin.

Way too early to tell that!! Also he's had a bad couple of days on the campaign trail so far this thing will close and it'll be a hung parliament!

I am worried this may be the outcome.

If it is then it's the end of Corbyn so basically it's the end of Corbyn or the end of Johnson I expect. I would rather see Johnson finished than Corbyn but I think it is a matter of time and the right circumstances before Corbyn is ousted anyway. I think this could be them.

marty34

Quote from: WT4E on November 01, 2019, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: drillsergeant on November 01, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
Key Battleground of South Belfast:

Brexit Referendum 2016:
Total electorate: 66,664
Turnout: 44,583 (66.9%), 3/18.
Votes to REMAIN: 30,960 (69.5%);
Votes to LEAVE: 13,596 (30.5%).
Third highest REMAIN vote share in Northern Ireland

Westminster Election 2017:
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP) 13,299 (30.4%)
Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 11,303 (25.9%)
Paula Bradshaw (Alliance) 7,946 (18.2%)
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (SF) 7,143 (16.3%)
Clare Bailey (Green) 2,241 (5.1%)
Michael Henderson (UUP) 1,527 (3.5%)
Clare Salier (Con) 246 (0.6%)

Surely the Pro-Remain parties must do a election pack here, but if they do who gets the free run? It either have to be Claire Hanna (SDLP) or Paula Bradshaw (Alliance). Views Folks??

Would it not be possible to mobilise the Holylands if we got them sobered up??? There are lots of nationalist voters there and cant imagine it be too hard for them to change their address if they living there during the week?

When do students finish up for Christmas? Will a lot of them be doing exams this day or the next?
So they'll not probably home so need to get postal or proxy etc. or a vote wasted.

marty34

Quote from: screenexile on November 01, 2019, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: drillsergeant on November 01, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
Key Battleground of South Belfast:

Brexit Referendum 2016:
Total electorate: 66,664
Turnout: 44,583 (66.9%), 3/18.
Votes to REMAIN: 30,960 (69.5%);
Votes to LEAVE: 13,596 (30.5%).
Third highest REMAIN vote share in Northern Ireland

Westminster Election 2017:
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP) 13,299 (30.4%)
Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 11,303 (25.9%)
Paula Bradshaw (Alliance) 7,946 (18.2%)
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (SF) 7,143 (16.3%)
Clare Bailey (Green) 2,241 (5.1%)
Michael Henderson (UUP) 1,527 (3.5%)
Clare Salier (Con) 246 (0.6%)

Surely the Pro-Remain parties must do a election pack here, but if they do who gets the free run? It either have to be Claire Hanna (SDLP) or Paula Bradshaw (Alliance). Views Folks??

Sinn Fein need to get out of here and let Hanna have a run at it ... it's a done deal if they do sure McDonnell was useless and nearly ousted Pengelly last time!

Let Hanna have a free run there - the solicitor a free run in NB and Alliance a free run in East Belfast.

SF and SDLP can fight it out in Derry but it's a win for SDLP as unionists will vote for Eastwood. Personally zI think Eastwood is poor.  Every election, he's in there, always about him and his profile.  Another mess by the SDLP in regards their 'leader' in Westminister - they can't make their mind up can they/can they not have their leader in London.  They change their mind - speaking about that what's the bet Stevie renages on his statement of standing Ulster unionists in every area?

I'd love to get Dodds get the boot in Nth. Belfast so all effort should go into that.

The problem is, as usual, there doesn't seem to be agreement in the Remain parties - SF/SDLP/Alliance and Greens etc. and it would be a serious balls up if the DUP, as Brexiteers, take the majority of the seats.  It would send out a bad statement.

Farrandeelin

Will there be a Unionist pact in Fermanagh South Tyrone?
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2019, 01:16:35 PM
Will there be a Unionist pact in Fermanagh South Tyrone?

No need for one, DUP won't stand here anyway and it's a straight shoot out between SF & UUP.

yellowcard

Quote from: marty34 on November 01, 2019, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 01, 2019, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: drillsergeant on November 01, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
Key Battleground of South Belfast:

Brexit Referendum 2016:
Total electorate: 66,664
Turnout: 44,583 (66.9%), 3/18.
Votes to REMAIN: 30,960 (69.5%);
Votes to LEAVE: 13,596 (30.5%).
Third highest REMAIN vote share in Northern Ireland

Westminster Election 2017:
Emma Little Pengelly (DUP) 13,299 (30.4%)
Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 11,303 (25.9%)
Paula Bradshaw (Alliance) 7,946 (18.2%)
Máirtín Ó Muilleoir (SF) 7,143 (16.3%)
Clare Bailey (Green) 2,241 (5.1%)
Michael Henderson (UUP) 1,527 (3.5%)
Clare Salier (Con) 246 (0.6%)

Surely the Pro-Remain parties must do a election pack here, but if they do who gets the free run? It either have to be Claire Hanna (SDLP) or Paula Bradshaw (Alliance). Views Folks??

Sinn Fein need to get out of here and let Hanna have a run at it ... it's a done deal if they do sure McDonnell was useless and nearly ousted Pengelly last time!

Let Hanna have a free run there - the solicitor a free run in NB and Alliance a free run in East Belfast.

SF and SDLP can fight it out in Derry but it's a win for SDLP as unionists will vote for Eastwood. Personally zI think Eastwood is poor.  Every election, he's in there, always about him and his profile.  Another mess by the SDLP in regards their 'leader' in Westminister - they can't make their mind up can they/can they not have their leader in London.  They change their mind - speaking about that what's the bet Stevie renages on his statement of standing Ulster unionists in every area?

I'd love to get Dodds get the boot in Nth. Belfast so all effort should go into that.

The problem is, as usual, there doesn't seem to be agreement in the Remain parties - SF/SDLP/Alliance and Greens etc. and it would be a serious balls up if the DUP, as Brexiteers, take the majority of the seats.  It would send out a bad statement.

That would make sense but it means remain parties setting aside their own narrow ambitions for the greater good and I'm not sure whether that will happen although they have fought a fairly united battle on Brexit related issues so we can hope.

Can't see too many unionists voting for Eastwood since he will take his seat in Westminster and might have some influence as a remainer however minor that is. Think it will be tight between SF and SDLP in Derry & Strabane. Finucane has to find 2,000 votes on Dodds and you would have to think that this will only be possible if SDLP step aside. An agreement for SF to step aside in South Belfast to allow Hanna get in and for SDLP to do likewise in north Belfast to give Finucane a chance would make sense.     

Rossfan

Obvious thing to do in Sth and Nth Belfast is whichever Nationalist party got the highest vote to stand and the other step aside.
Of course historically SF, the Irish Government etc should have insisted on PR being used in ALL 6 Co Elections ach sin scéal eile...
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