America`s Gun Culture

[Muck Savage]

The blame for these deaths and all those gun deaths in the US lies at the door of the GOP. If you vote or support them, then you're complicit. It's really that simple.

It lies at the door of all politicians
Why haven Democratic Senators not tried to reform gun laws? get it to the floor and see who will and wont support changes to the laws? I keep hearing its pointless because the GOP wont allow it to pass or the next change in majority will overturn this. They wont do it because they are protecting their own political ass. Why is Joe not trying to make change?

One of the most progressive gun reforms in the last number or years happened in Florida driven by Rick Scott, yep, he is a Republican. Yet in a state like Illinois where there are two Democratic Senators its legal to buy a gun at 18, and every week there are 10's of deaths in Chicago where again there is a Democratic Mayor.

The deaths of these kids and people for the last 30 odd years lays with both political parties.

[Milltown Row2]

No, the death of these kids lie at the door of who carried them out... after that it lies with how is someone, who is mentally unstable, allowed to buy guns and after that we go further down the chain of how it's approved by successive governments after successive shootings.

But hey, as long as you're stupid amendments are saved.  Proper f**king stupid people will produce proper f**king stupid people

[PadraicHenryPearse]

https://youtu.be/OgneY-jBWes

it's always Sunny...

[Gmac]

Lots of questions to be answered by local authorities and whoever else was there , lucky a border patrol agent responded to the situation and took the piece of crap out . Ironic that most of the posters responding would like that agency to be disbanded .

The border police? What a stupid stupid part to put in at the end. Armed police who have no issues squeezing the life out of people for traffic offences stay out of the building because of fear of being shot.. in turn this manic who on his 18th birthday buys guns, goes to a school and kills kids. But you focus your post on people wanting to disband border police!

What a twaty thing to concentrate on

pointing out who actually went in and shot the guy and what agency he represents is twaty ?
You normally are only worried about the color of the attacker and if he surrendered or was shot .
An 18 year old buying 2 rifles is insane and that law should be changed but dreaming that law abiding people are giving up any guns is not realistic.
The police in the USA are demoralized and doing a terrible job in most parts of the country for a number of reasons and for the last few years seem to be more interested in staying out of any situation that may be dangerous of controversial and are trying to hang in there to get out with a 95% pension when the time comes . Ps they are not the ruc

Right now its not realistic, because the GOP and the NRA have made unfettered access to any kind of weapon a central plank in the culture wars and they are currently an extremely powerful political force.

But when it comes down to it, do the majority of gun enthusiasts really want everyone, everywhere to have unfettered access to military-grade weaponry?

Do they have a logical argument against why someone should not have:

1. to complete a proper background check, like you now have to do for many jobs or to even to get TSA pre-check/global entry membership?
2. to complete a proper gun safety course?
3. to have a gun permit?
4. access to the ownership of assault weapons without some very good reason?

Do the majority of police really want to be dealing with untrained, unrestricted members of the public who are in possession of weapons and protective gear that wouldn't look out of place on a battlefield?

I would say if you made sure everyone who bought one of these high power rifles was a member of the nra they would not be used in any of these shootings. I would ban them if was up to me

[J70]

The blame for these deaths and all those gun deaths in the US lies at the door of the GOP. If you vote or support them, then you're complicit. It's really that simple.

It lies at the door of all politicians
Why haven Democratic Senators not tried to reform gun laws? get it to the floor and see who will and wont support changes to the laws? I keep hearing its pointless because the GOP wont allow it to pass or the next change in majority will overturn this. They wont do it because they are protecting their own political ass. Why is Joe not trying to make change?

One of the most progressive gun reforms in the last number or years happened in Florida driven by Rick Scott, yep, he is a Republican. Yet in a state like Illinois where there are two Democratic Senators its legal to buy a gun at 18, and every week there are 10's of deaths in Chicago where again there is a Democratic Mayor.

The deaths of these kids and people for the last 30 odd years lays with both political parties.

Mitch McConnell can either filibuster a vote or refuse to put it on the floor, depending on whether he is minority or majority leader. The Dems need 60 votes to bypass a filibuster. They have 50. We'll see whether they'll get 10 Republicans if next weeks talks about to anything worthwhile. I seriously doubt it.

And Illinois can have all the gun restrictions they want, but it doesn't mean shit when you drive a few miles up or down the road to Indiana or one of the other bordering states were gun laws, if any, are far more lenient.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-01/tulsa-police-multiple-people-shot-at-medical-building

Arm the doctors and nurses

[Gmac]

40 odd shot in Chicago last weekend gun violence out of control

[whitey]

40 odd shot in Chicago last weekend gun violence out of control

Cop shot there this evening....hopefully not too bad

They're in for a tough Summer.  Confiscated 12 guns from the teenagers at the beach riot last weekend

[Baile an tuaigh]

40 odd shot in Chicago last weekend gun violence out of control

Over memorial weekend 72 shot 13 dead. Lots of Mass shooting that don't make the national headlines.

[omochain]

40 odd shot in Chicago last weekend gun violence out of control

You are correct. Gun violence is out of control. What do you suggest we do to control it.?

[Rudi]

https://www.thejournal.ie/oklahoma-shooting-hospital-tulsa-5780991-Jun2022/

[J70]

40 odd shot in Chicago last weekend gun violence out of control

You are correct. Gun violence is out of control. What do you suggest we do to control it.?

He doesn't have anything to suggest.

People in Chicago can cross the state line south of the city and go into Indiana where it's a virtual free for all when it comes to guns. Starting next month, no permits or background checks even needed for 18 year olds and up for handguns. Any guns the cops seize can be immediately replaced from the endless supply from the surrounding states.

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-01/tulsa-police-multiple-people-shot-at-medical-building

Arm the doctors and nurses

It was the person that left the door open that caused it

[93-DY-SAM]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-01/tulsa-police-multiple-people-shot-at-medical-building

Arm the doctors and nurses

It was the person that left the door open that caused it

No, they need to arm all doctors and nurses with guns. After all, the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good one. Unless they are chicken shit scared like cops in Texas.

The whole thing is fecked up beyond belief.

[RedHand88]

All we all in agreement that we should stop taking our cultural cues from America?