East wall #Irelandisfull

Started by Truth hurts, January 04, 2023, 11:06:41 AM

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Eire90

They say some guy mcglinchey of finn view construction is involved aswell in the donegal area.

trailer

Very typical thread with people chatting about how much certain people are making from these centres. Posters who have no understanding of business, overheads, bank loans, tax, compliance and it goes on and on and on.

If there's piles of money to be made, and it's easy go on out and do it.

Itchy

Quote from: trailer on December 21, 2023, 08:58:03 AMVery typical thread with people chatting about how much certain people are making from these centres. Posters who have no understanding of business, overheads, bank loans, tax, compliance and it goes on and on and on.

If there's piles of money to be made, and it's easy go on out and do it.

I do have an idea of business Trailer, you may not be familiar with what's happening in the south. Builders are buying dilapidated buildings for use as refugee centers. They do not need planning or to adhere to new building regulations. Therefore they are cramming people in to these places and absolutely creaming it in. I was told by someone in the know that the owner of these buildings is then getting 100 euro per day per person for accommodation and food.

Put that in perspective, there is a B&B in my local town that was purchased for the sole purpose of hosting refugees. He has 25 people in it. 25 x 100 x 7 = 17.5k per week. How many proper B&B's would take that in for a week, every week of the year?

I am not saying it should not be profitable but it strike me as pigs at the trough of human suffering.

trailer

Quote from: Itchy on December 21, 2023, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: trailer on December 21, 2023, 08:58:03 AMVery typical thread with people chatting about how much certain people are making from these centres. Posters who have no understanding of business, overheads, bank loans, tax, compliance and it goes on and on and on.

If there's piles of money to be made, and it's easy go on out and do it.

I do have an idea of business Trailer, you may not be familiar with what's happening in the south. Builders are buying dilapidated buildings for use as refugee centers. They do not need planning or to adhere to new building regulations. Therefore they are cramming people in to these places and absolutely creaming it in. I was told by someone in the know that the owner of these buildings is then getting 100 euro per day per person for accommodation and food.

Put that in perspective, there is a B&B in my local town that was purchased for the sole purpose of hosting refugees. He has 25 people in it. 25 x 100 x 7 = 17.5k per week. How many proper B&B's would take that in for a week, every week of the year?

I am not saying it should not be profitable but it strike me as pigs at the trough of human suffering.

These people are stepping in to provide where the state cannot. Happens in lots of areas in that the state will turn to the private sector to help.

So he is generating a revenue of €17.5k per week. What's it costing him/her? People throw figures around €100pp €300 a night etc, etc, and then a lot of people think that's what they are pocketing.



Rossfan

If those "entrepreneurs " weren't providing (over priced on the face of it) accomodation the 14,000 in emergency accomodation plus God knows how many asylum seekers/Ukrainians would have nowhere to go😕
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

weareros

I'm sure some are making a profit but some of these places were zombie hotels from Celtic tiger days that are now both fulfilling a good cause in housing refugees and providing local employment - eg local butchers are contracted to provide meat, etc. thus the disgrace of burning down a hotel that was not in use. So Christian of them.

Rossfan

Wait till they find out that Christianity was spread to Europe by Brown skinned middle Eastern single unvetted men.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eire90

If they were true irish patriots they would become celtic pagans

Armagh18

Quote from: Rossfan on December 21, 2023, 11:51:59 AMIf those "entrepreneurs " weren't providing (over priced on the face of it) accomodation the 14,000 in emergency accomodation plus God knows how many asylum seekers/Ukrainians would have nowhere to go😕
Ukraine?

ThomasMullan

Disgraceful scenes today in Roscrea.  You didn't have to scratch the surface very hard for some Irish to show their true colours - absolute racist, hate-filled bigots.

Hundreds of obvious bot accounts on Xitter weighing in behind them as well and really stirring things up. Who is behind that I wonder.

thewobbler

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 15, 2024, 08:37:52 PMDisgraceful scenes today in Roscrea.  You didn't have to scratch the surface very hard for some Irish to show their true colours - absolute racist, hate-filled bigots.

Hundreds of obvious bot accounts on Xitter weighing in behind them as well and really stirring things up. Who is behind that I wonder.

Nobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

burdizzo

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 15, 2024, 08:37:52 PMDisgraceful scenes today in Roscrea.  You didn't have to scratch the surface very hard for some Irish to show their true colours - absolute racist, hate-filled bigots.

Hundreds of obvious bot accounts on Xitter weighing in behind them as well and really stirring things up. Who is behind that I wonder.

Disgraceful, all right. Imagine the State riding roughshod over its own CITIZENS in favour of any amount of illegal immigrants. Crazy.

From the Bunker

Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2024, 08:53:45 PMNobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

Great post. There is a huge level of the unknown. You can't be expecting people to sit on their hands and watch their community drastically change in way that no one can predict.

Armagh18

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2024, 08:53:45 PMNobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

Great post. There is a huge level of the unknown. You can't be expecting people to sit on their hands and watch their community drastically change in way that no one can predict.
Absolutely.

ThomasMullan

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 15, 2024, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2024, 08:53:45 PMNobody is behind it. Not in an organised way.

Rural townsfolk aren't used to strangers. They just aren't. This is often and lazily portrayed as owing to the people being inbred Neanderthals.

But that's not it. Most small inland towns in Ireland would have one small hotel, if that. They don't have tourists. They don't host conferences, or big social events, and the only people who go to their small festivals are from the hinterland. The local businesses are there to provide services for local people. The motorway network has removed most of the passers by.

Unless they happen to work outside their own town, they won't encounter a stranger from one month to the next apart from in a sporting context, if that way involved, and then only fleetingly.

And that's their way of life. It's not a way of living  thats unfriendly to outsiders, not even wary. Just completely unaccustomed.

But 10% of their population is soon to be made up of people from a completely different culture, means, and way of life.

Thats scary.

So when the likes of you describe them as racist, hate-filled bigots. Just do yourself a favour. Show a bit of empathy for the locals.

This is not a black and white situation.

Great post. There is a huge level of the unknown. You can't be expecting people to sit on their hands and watch their community drastically change in way that no one can predict.

Yes it's terrible, townsfolk will have to now walk around Roscrea and look at some people from another country where they don't have white skin. I can't imagine how they will cope when they've never had to do that before.

Can you explain to me how their 'way of life' is threatened exactly?