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Fair play my ass, how long did it take. The man is a dinosaur

+1. A dangerous individual.

The quicker Arlene gets in the better

-1. She makes Gregory Campbell seem decent and fair minded. She is a smug, hateful, bigoted, arrogant witch. This backfiring on Arlene was one of the most satisfying moments in recent election history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcBQqyWMqk

[champo]

Great champo stuff overall though!

Hate that word so much.

have they stopped claiming Westminster expenses yet?

Why should they? Their MPs run full time constituency offices. They just don't attend the House of Commons.

But they should still be applauded for "only taking the industrial wage", yes?

A not even subtle change of subject there gallsman! But yes, any politician who demonstrates that they are not being motivated by their own financial gain is worthy of some kudos.

have they stopped claiming Westminster expenses yet?

Why should they? Their MPs run full time constituency offices. They just don't attend the House of Commons.

My own personal favourite was from Lorraine Montgomery:

"Good buy"

Anna Lo has announced she is stepping down from politics at the next Assembly elections.

It was hard watching her on BBC News earlier. Broke down as she now fears Belfast because of the rise of racism and all the verbal abuse she has been receiving.

Well done Peter.

+1 Her interview is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27616319

It's just more of the same from Robinson unfortunately. I've said it before and I'll say it again: He is the single biggest threat to peace and stability in Ireland. The flag protest and associated serious violence as well as the licking up to the OO over parades last year and party members appearing on platforms with the UVF are all directly attributed to the DUP whilst under his direction and in particular since losing his seat to Naomi Long.

You think that was a great election result for SF? You're kidding yourself, seriously.

You're right. Everyone else is wrong.  Forgive me for not taking your analysis seriously when your pre-election prediction was a "20 year" setback for SF. Opps!!!

The best thing Adams could do for the party now is to retire

Indeed. The party only recorded it's greatest elections result since 1918 and has trebled it's number of local council seats in the 26 counties. Adams must go!!

[set them back about 20 years.]

Nail on the head there. The Shinners missed a huge chance - they only had to shut the fcuk up for 3 or 4 days and wait until their leader was released and their journey from the political wilderness to mainstream political party would've been complete. Instead, Marty threw a tantrum and set them back about 20 years.

Like I said Myles ... Top drawer political analysis!!

The Shinners will do okay in the south, but given the circumstances that have prevailed there over the past few years, that's no huge achievement. The number of independents picking up seats in that jurisdiction illustrates the level of disillusionment with the mainstream parties. Their vote in the north has held up, no better than that. SF got the biggest share of the vote and I've no doubt that they will repeat that achievement in Stormont elections sooner or later. But so what? Marty and Peter get to swap job titles? The SF 'project' is about achieving a united Ireland and on that score they seem to be doing less well. The unionist vote seems as strong as ever and it's a percentage of these people that SF have to win over if unity is to be achieved. There's no sign of that shift happening and Marty's melt down a few weeks ago won't have helped. It certainly dissuaded this light green nationalist from voting SF this time around, so I'd imagine the effect on unionists was even more marked. How many years has it set the SF project back? I'll stick with about 20 but I'm open to a spot of haggling. 

Ah so you defended your prediction last week following the polls by pointing to margins if error etc but today, suddenly,  you pretend you event taking about the election at all?! Spoofer!!!!! 

[set them back about 20 years.]

Nail on the head there. The Shinners missed a huge chance - they only had to shut the fcuk up for 3 or 4 days and wait until their leader was released and their journey from the political wilderness to mainstream political party would've been complete. Instead, Marty threw a tantrum and set them back about 20 years.

Like I said Myles ... Top drawer political analysis!!

You just didn't like it Nally cos it was one of your own, three of the "top"four candidates with the worst attendance records were from Sinn Fein.

Is it ok with you people being able to see this information ?

Some more highly selective and creative twisting of a piece of research which reflected well on SF councillor's attendances as a whole. Hope youre going to be watching the news intently over the next couple of days 

Unlike yourself I will probably be out and about 

I'd say you will. I can just see you now. After hearing about yet another SF seat 

You just didn't like it Nally cos it was one of your own, three of the "top"four candidates with the worst attendance records were from Sinn Fein.

Is it ok with you people being able to see this information ?

Some more highly selective and creative twisting of a piece of research which reflected well on SF councillor's attendances as a whole. Hope youre going to be watching the news intently over the next couple of days 

[literally]

It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Hardly one to accuse anyone else of spinning crock. I don't think abstaining from westminster is breaking a promise considering he stood for election on an abstentionist ticket. And why wouldn't SF members claim their expenses from Westminster. They don't attend the House of Commons, but they are still active MPs running their constituency offices, so dry your eyes. Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEUDeLX-hY.

P.s. Bairbre DeBrun stepped down on health grounds. It was widely reported at the time. That you didn't know this says more about you than it does about anyone else.

Taking an 'oath' is a mere formality, much like donning a white tie, standing for GSTQ and toasting the Queen. It's the things you're expected to do when you're elected to represent all your constituents.

And i'd expect all MPs from NI to be among those with the lowest attendance records - they're hardly going to be in Westminster to vote on issues like Education, Health etc. that are devolved to the Assembly - what's the point on attending / voting on issues in Westminster that impact England only?

What about "abstentionism" in the local council you are elected to represent your constituents in ?

In Irish News a few weeks ago it was reported Moyle Sinn Fein councillor Noreen McAllister has the lowest attendance record of any councillor in six counties, attending only 36% of full council meetings.

That's some representation.

If I remember correctly, the same report also showed SF as joint highest or second highest attendees. Odd that you didn't mention that in favour of picking out just one isolated individual hmmm.

Hey  Kettle- Go easy on Mr Pot.  Didn't you do the same with that video of Alastair McDonnell ?

No. I mentioned the attendance of his party. I only singled 'Big Sleepy 'turn down those lights' Al' out for having a nap while he was busy not abstaining. Furthermore, he himself makes up a third of the SDLP's MP representation so singling one individual (a party leader) out of a pool of three for criticism isn't quite the same thing as singling out one councillor with poor attendance record to use for an attack on the entire party's councillor attendance record, out of the party's pool of 141 councillors with among the highest attendance rates on average.

Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap

you implied all they do in Westminster is sleep

hypocrite

[literally]

It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Hardly one to accuse anyone else of spinning crock. I don't think abstaining from westminster is breaking a promise considering he stood for election on an abstentionist ticket. And why wouldn't SF members claim their expenses from Westminster. They don't attend the House of Commons, but they are still active MPs running their constituency offices, so dry your eyes. Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEUDeLX-hY.

P.s. Bairbre DeBrun stepped down on health grounds. It was widely reported at the time. That you didn't know this says more about you than it does about anyone else.

Taking an 'oath' is a mere formality, much like donning a white tie, standing for GSTQ and toasting the Queen. It's the things you're expected to do when you're elected to represent all your constituents.

And i'd expect all MPs from NI to be among those with the lowest attendance records - they're hardly going to be in Westminster to vote on issues like Education, Health etc. that are devolved to the Assembly - what's the point on attending / voting on issues in Westminster that impact England only?

What about "abstentionism" in the local council you are elected to represent your constituents in ?

In Irish News a few weeks ago it was reported Moyle Sinn Fein councillor Noreen McAllister has the lowest attendance record of any councillor in six counties, attending only 36% of full council meetings.

That's some representation.

If I remember correctly, the same report also showed SF as joint highest or second highest attendees. Odd that you didn't mention that in favour of picking out just one isolated individual hmmm.

Hey  Kettle- Go easy on Mr Pot.  Didn't you do the same with that video of Alastair McDonnell ?

No. I mentioned the attendance of his party. I only singled 'Big Sleepy 'turn down those lights' Al' out for having a nap while he was busy not abstaining. Furthermore, he himself makes up a third of the SDLP's MP representation so singling one individual (a party leader) out of a pool of three for criticism isn't quite the same thing as singling out one councillor with poor attendance record to use for an attack on the entire party's councillor attendance record, out of the party's pool of 141 councillors with among the highest attendance rates on average.

[literally]

It may seem appealing to vote Shinner but if you lived up here you'd realise their the same money-grubbing hoors you've been used to all along. You can kid yourselves they're better than Labour / FF / FG or the Greens but in reality they're all the f**king same. Populist gobshites who'll spin you any ould shite of a yarn to get into power and as soon as they get there they'll shit on all the policies and promises they made to you before.

Think of them as Labour but with a green poster.

At the minute I've a SF member of Parliament for the past 13 years but he doesn't attend Westminster in any shape or form and never has. Despite this he still draws down nearly every fund he's "entitled" to as a MP, explain the difference in that to Shatter claiming he's "entitled" to but doesn't deserve either? 13 years and not once has his voice been heard in the office he was appointed to. A well seasoned turnip could replace my MP in the morning and literally I would be no worse represented.

My SF MEP is Braribhe deBrun who's single greatest accomplishment in 10 years is to ensure EU documents get printed in Irish. She quit in 2012 according to Wikipedia which is news to me. I'd say greater than 70% of voters like myself haven't noticed her absence one bit. She rarely give speeches in English, preferring Irish because hey it's better no-one understands what the fcuk your saying rather than have a few understand.

I've 3 Shinner MLA's but they can't get anything passed because Stromont is on strike since the Hass debacle. Most of our European counter-parts and competitors (including the Free State) have implemented a stringent BVD control program to eradicate a significant bovine disease which costs the agriculture industry here in excess of 1 million a year. Initially we were meant to initiate the program with the Irish program. They started in 2012 and we were told we'd start a year behind. Since we were told we'd start in March, then July but still no word or sign of it. As of now we are 2 years or more behind Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. All because our MLA's have been instructed by there parties not to agree on any legislation purely to spite the each other, you wouldn't get such thick, hateful fcukers in a creche never mind a regional democracy.

I've a Shinner Agriculture minister who thinks milk farmers sleep in at weekends and who's previous experience with agriculture would be sniffing the smell of shite as she drove through the countryside. Again FG's Coveney has more than 6 months ago dictated specifically the details of the CAP payment changes for the next 5 years to 2019. As of writing my SF minister has decided absolutely diddly squat. I can show you information leaflets in which the only specific info is that they are "unsure" of the future form of CAP payments. Once again we are the slow fckuers behind the Welsh, Scots, English and Irish.

So lads don't get your hopes up for the Shinners, they'll spin you whatever crock you want to hear but in reality they are as ineffectual, petty and corrupt as the lads you are used to.

Hardly one to accuse anyone else of spinning crock. I don't think abstaining from westminster is breaking a promise considering he stood for election on an abstentionist ticket. And why wouldn't SF members claim their expenses from Westminster. They don't attend the House of Commons, but they are still active MPs running their constituency offices, so dry your eyes. Maybe you'd prefer they took the stoops approach: take an oath of allegiance to get into the commons, then become among the worst attendees in it, but occasionally show up for a little nap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEUDeLX-hY.

P.s. Bairbre DeBrun stepped down on health grounds. It was widely reported at the time. That you didn't know this says more about you than it does about anyone else.

Taking an 'oath' is a mere formality, much like donning a white tie, standing for GSTQ and toasting the Queen. It's the things you're expected to do when you're elected to represent all your constituents.

And i'd expect all MPs from NI to be among those with the lowest attendance records - they're hardly going to be in Westminster to vote on issues like Education, Health etc. that are devolved to the Assembly - what's the point on attending / voting on issues in Westminster that impact England only?

What about "abstentionism" in the local council you are elected to represent your constituents in ?

In Irish News a few weeks ago it was reported Moyle Sinn Fein councillor Noreen McAllister has the lowest attendance record of any councillor in six counties, attending only 36% of full council meetings.

That's some representation.

If I remember correctly, the same report also showed SF as joint highest or second highest attendees. Odd that you didn't mention that in favour of picking out just one isolated individual hmmm.