Soldiers of Destiny to storm the border

[thejuice]

http://seosamhsonar.blogspot.com/2009/09/historic-fianna-fail-meeting-in-co-down.html

A short distance from the constituency office in Downpatrick, Co. Down, of the Social Democratic and Labour MP, Eddie McGrady, local Fianna Fáil supporters met on Saturday evening, in the historic Denvers Hotel, to launch a Fianna Fáil forum group for the South Down region.

Fianna Fáil party heavyweights who addressed the meeting were; The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Mr Dermot Ahern, TD, ; Éamon Ó Cuív T.D., Minister for Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs; and a grandson of party founder Éamon de Valera; and Dr. Rory O'Hanlon, TD; a former Ceann Comhairle of Dáil Éireann; (House Speaker) 2002 - 2007.

In his opening remarks, Gerald Kelly, a Co. Down forum member, said it was fitting that the meeting should be held in Denvers, as the establishment could trace its history back to a time when the United Irishmen had met there, leading up to the rebellion of 1798. Daniel O'Connell had also addressed a meeting from the hotel balcony, as he held monster meeting throughout the country, during the fight for Catholic emancipation.

All three speakers from the party stressed that they were there to listen and learn form local people, and that there would be no dictates from party headquarters as to how, or at what speed, party organisation should take place.

Minister Ó Cuív, in a light-hearted moment, reminded the audience that his family had a 100% voting record running in South Down, referring to the election of his grandfather as a Stormont MP for the area, in 1933.

The first speaker from the audience to address the forum was Harvey Bicker, a former member of the Ulster Unionist Party, and member of the Down District Council, who quit his party in February of this year, and joined Fianna Fáil. Mr. Bicker, originally from Banbridge, told the meeting how his family's commitment to Republican ideals goes back even further than their involvement in the '98 rebellion. He received a standing ovation from the audience.

Mr. Bicker, a retired Colonel, served in both the British army and the Ulster Defence Regiment, he now serves on President McAlleese's Council of State.

Local Councillor, Peter Fitzpatrick, from the SDLP, also welcomed the formation of the Fianna Fáil forum.
Martin McAllister, a Co. Armagh Fianna Fáil forum member, from Crossmaglen, also attended the meeting. A similar group has been established in the strongly Republican heartland area, and have opened an office in the village.

The move by Fianna Fáil to establish the forums is in keeping with a resolution adopted at the party conference last February. The resolution called for the party to establish machinery for party members in the north of Ireland, to meet with Fianna Fáil elected officials, party officers, and southern-based membership.

[Feckitt]

Did anyone see Hearts & Minds yesterday.  Martin McAllister is opening the new FF office in Crossmaglen.  It reports that there will be Fianna Fail forums in all 6 northern counties by the end of the year. 

They are getting geared up in Newry & Armagh for the 2011 assembly elections.  I reckon if FF committ to this properly then there is a lot of votes to be taken.

SF said that it will only affect the SDLP.   The SDLP said it will only affect SF.  They are both full of shit!

If the FF'ers do this properly, through nationally known figures such as Dermot Ahern, Eamon O'Cuiv and Rory O'Hanlon, and recruit some good high profile people (including stealing some from SF & SDLP) then they have a real future in the North. 

[Gnevin]

Did anyone see Hearts & Minds yesterday.  Martin McAllister is opening the new FF office in Crossmaglen.  It reports that there will be Fianna Fail forums in all 6 northern counties by the end of the year. 

They are getting geared up in Newry & Armagh for the 2011 assembly elections.  I reckon if FF committ to this properly then there is a lot of votes to be taken.

SF said that it will only affect the SDLP.   The SDLP said it will only affect SF.  They are both full of shit!

If the FF'ers do this properly, through nationally known figures such as Dermot Ahern, Eamon O'Cuiv and Rory O'Hanlon, and recruit some good high profile people (including stealing some from SF & SDLP) then they have a real future in the North.

FF are f**ked down south . Why would anyone up North vote for them?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Are FF repositioning themselves as a Northern Irish party. With no future in the Dail, maybe they believe they can best scam Westminister for the next 85 years.   

[Feckitt]

Because the North is not a real country.  Virtually everyone in the North votes according to identity.  Economic policies do not come into it.  I would vote FF because I want to vote for an All-Ireland party that aren't Sinn Fein.  The SDLP are dead, they've served there purpose, and there time is up.  SF served their purpose, and there time is up as well.  Also bringing FF into the north might help rid the south of the some of the 'Little 26 county-ism' which has become more prevalent in recent years.

[Canalman]

Wouldn't write FF off just yet. Will (like all Govt incumbents) probably lose next General Election....... but to say they are f...ked is ott.
A new leader and the putting out to pasture of the "old guard" and FF will be back with a vengeance. Still have the loyalty of the small farmer and the urban working classes by and large (though not as much as they had).

FF also have a better calibre of TD which garners them votes despite the party's unpopularity.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Because the North is not a real country.  Virtually everyone in the North votes according to identity.  Economic policies do not come into it.  I would vote FF because I want to vote for an All-Ireland party that aren't Sinn Fein.  The SDLP are dead, they've served there purpose, and there time is up.  SF served their purpose, and there time is up as well.  Also bringing FF into the north might help rid the south of the some of the 'Little 26 county-ism' which has become more prevalent in recent years.

You would vote for the party or Charlie Haughey, Bertie Ahern, Liam Lawlor, Beverly Flynn, Ray Burke, Ivor Callely, Frank Dunlop, Eamon DeValera!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Feckitt]

What is the alternative?  Sinn Fein?  I bet as you are a Mayo blueshirt you don't like them either!

If Fianna Fail make it big in the North, then it will forward an All Ireland agenda by the back door, and people won't give a shit about Ray Burke or Ivor feckin Callelly.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

What is the alternative?  Sinn Fein?  I bet as you are a Mayo blueshirt you don't like them either!

If Fianna Fail make it big in the North, then it will forward an All Ireland agenda by the back door, and people won't give a shit about Ray Burke or Ivor feckin Callelly.

SDLP, Independents, Alliance

[trileacman]

Wouldn't write FF off just yet. Will (like all Govt incumbents) probably lose next General Election....... but to say they are f...ked is ott.
A new leader and the putting out to pasture of the "old guard" and FF will be back with a vengeance. Still have the loyalty of the small farmer and the urban working classes by and large (though not as much as they had).

FF also have a better calibre of TD which garners them votes despite the party's unpopularity.

Dead right.

[Farrandeelin]

Lads, mayogodhelphim is probably licking Enda Kenny's hole right now! Or maybe John O'Mahony.

[ardmhachaabu]

Did anyone see Hearts & Minds yesterday.  Martin McAllister is opening the new FF office in Crossmaglen.  It reports that there will be Fianna Fail forums in all 6 northern counties by the end of the year. 

They are getting geared up in Newry & Armagh for the 2011 assembly elections.  I reckon if FF committ to this properly then there is a lot of votes to be taken.

SF said that it will only affect the SDLP.   The SDLP said it will only affect SF.  They are both full of shit!

If the FF'ers do this properly, through nationally known figures such as Dermot Ahern, Eamon O'Cuiv and Rory O'Hanlon, and recruit some good high profile people (including stealing some from SF & SDLP) then they have a real future in the North.

FF are f**ked down south . Why would anyone up North vote for them?

I am not debating this; you have no clue about politics, north or south.

[ballinaman]

Lads, mayogodhelphim is probably licking Enda Kenny's hole right now! Or maybe John O'Mahony.

Don't forget Eoin O'Duffy too.....

[Zapatista]

FF are a cancer on Ireland.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

FF are a cancer on Ireland.

Time to cut them out so.