Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors

[Milltown Row2]

Back to the point.A McDonalds staff member confronted last night,in Navan,I think.I'm lovin' it!

You look like you love McDees too much lad!

[longballin]

Why is Jay Donnelly playing for Cliftonville while facing charges of possession of child pornography? Shocking decision by the Reds...

[imtommygunn]

It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.

Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?

So in your book a 17 year old can't have sex with a 25 year? Regardless of the laws which says different..

I do understand the laws. My hypothetical questions have been to ask your opinions on it (regardless of the laws). I don't care that the legal age is 16 - my kids won't be having sex at 16 if I can help it. I woulldn't allow my 17 year old daughter (one day) to date a 25 year old, a 30 year old or a 60 year old - if it's legal or not. That's what I'm asking you - would you?
The legal age is different in many countries. 14 is ok in Germany and that lad in Lurgan would have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law but in Ireland he is going to jail (by the way I have no sympathy for him).....but these nuances challenge our thinking on it all surely?
I would like to just engage in healthy discussion on the matter instead of the likes of Gabe reading a mile into my psyche and wrongly ascertaining my intentions.

The Chief Constable of the RUC/PSNI has stated that there have been NO convictions due to the actions of these vigilantes:

http://www.thejournal.ie/paedophile-hunter-groups-ireland-3790290-Jan2018/

So I highly doubt that anybody is going to go to jail because of something that the vigilantes have "caught" them doing.

That says it all really

[Milltown Row2]

But they are selling hoddies caps and other clothing stuff, apparently they are selling a shit load of this stuff!

[T Fearon]

Why is Jay Donnelly playing for Cliftonville while facing charges of possession of child pornography? Shocking decision by the Reds...

After conceding 6 goals to Ballinamallard last night,Reds fans will be querying why any of their players are playing for Cliftonville!

[longballin]

Why is Jay Donnelly playing for Cliftonville while facing charges of possession of child pornography? Shocking decision by the Reds...

After conceding 6 goals to Ballinamallard last night,Reds fans will be querying why any of their players are playing for Cliftonville!

ans you say Derry Girls is not funny : (

[stew]

I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?

I would consider any 24 year old trying to date a 14 year old a pervert, he is sexually interested in a child ffs!

[Milltown Row2]

I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?

I would consider any 24 year old trying to date a 14 year old a pervert, he is sexually interested in a child ffs!

So Elvis was a pervert

[Minder]

I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?

I would consider any 24 year old trying to date a 14 year old a pervert, he is sexually interested in a child ffs!

So Elvis was a pervert

Yes

[Milltown Row2]

Not disagreeing... shows you the difference when it's a famous person how they got away with it!

[armaghniac]

There was a guy on the radio today who made the point that governments should enlist and regularise these people who wish to track down these internet abusers.
So you'd have an internet division of the Garda reserve who would do things in an organised and responsible way. Given that there are people in Ireland with very useful IT skills these could bring this knowledge to this work also.
Will the government have the 'cop' to do this?

[thebigfella]

There was a guy on the radio today who made the point that governments should enlist and regularise these people who wish to track down these internet abusers.
So you'd have an internet division of the Garda reserve who would do things in an organised and responsible way. Given that there are people in Ireland with very useful IT skills these could bring this knowledge to this work also.
Will the government have the 'cop' to do this?

No. They already have people doing this who must go through rigorous vetting.

[T Fearon]

I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.

[Milltown Row2]

I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.

Where do the police have a high public opinion? Jeeze lad you are thick

[T Fearon]

I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.

Where do the police have a high public opinion? Jeeze lad you are thick

Try reading my post word for word,use a dictionary if necessary,then point out where I said the Police have a high public opinion? I said the Police resent these groups because they (i e the Groups) have high public endorsement unlike the Police.Do you understand or is further elaboration required?