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« Reply #45645 on: August 08, 2022, 08:44:37 PM »
@gaafan2, is it true that Gortin didn't accomadate the fixture change for Hugh pats wedding? Ironic if true given the abuse the rock took recently from mcgarvey and co

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« Reply #45646 on: August 08, 2022, 10:53:45 PM »
Four Sundays in the year isnít too much to ask. Fridays are good at the start but with light fading becomes a rushing match to fit them in. Iíd say Sundays suit more people than Saturdays. Lot of boys work on Saturday evenings and thereís a lot (particularly reserves) who play soccer on a Saturday.

The GAA should not be accomodating soccer when scheduling games.

All well in theory, but if you put players into a position where they have to choose between the two and in the end a significant amount decide to go with playing soccer over Gaelic football then it's likely some teams will fail to field, depriving game time not only of their own players that are willing to play but also their opponents. Communication between all involved is needed.
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« Reply #45647 on: August 09, 2022, 09:36:18 AM »
how many clubs can host floodlight games should matches that can be played under lights happen on friday night if both clubs agree  is floodlights games a strain on finances aswell.

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« Reply #45648 on: August 09, 2022, 11:19:18 AM »
Four Sundays in the year isnít too much to ask. Fridays are good at the start but with light fading becomes a rushing match to fit them in. Iíd say Sundays suit more people than Saturdays. Lot of boys work on Saturday evenings and thereís a lot (particularly reserves) who play soccer on a Saturday.

The GAA should not be accomodating soccer when scheduling games.

All well in theory, but if you put players into a position where they have to choose between the two and in the end a significant amount decide to go with playing soccer over Gaelic football then it's likely some teams will fail to field, depriving game time not only of their own players that are willing to play but also their opponents. Communication between all involved is needed.

Slippery slope. Over time this will give soccer clubs all the power, the GAA clubs need to make a firm stance early.

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« Reply #45649 on: August 09, 2022, 01:25:03 PM »
Slippery slope. Over time this will give soccer clubs all the power, the GAA clubs need to make a firm stance early.

If there's a slippery slope argument, then it was locally lost long ago. There's long been a due deference within GAA circles to get games that have been fixed changed to accommodate various matters beyond the general control of a club involved. OTOH in Junior soccer (Fermanagh & Western League, anyway) there is a much more rigid culture in sticking to fixture lists - it's rare for a club to get a fixture changed unless it is (a) made well in advance i.e. several weeks, or (b) due to weather conditions or bereavement postponing a game. Outside of that it's pretty much the case that your league game is down for 2.00 or 2.30 on a Saturday afternoon and if you can't gather up 11 players for it, then tough. You could argue that the GAA in Tyrone should adopt a similar stance, but it's highly unlikely to benefit them in the long run especially if you look at how Junior soccer clubs often fair themselves when they're often missing out on players at the beginning and end of their season because several of them give preference to Gaelic football (the defunct Ballygawley FC springs to mind). Also, compared to Gaelic football which is a summer sport and thus can have games usually easily enough moved to an alternative evening with sufficient daylight available, local junior soccer rarely has much headway to getting games played outside of Saturday mornings or afternoons on grounds that rarely have playable floodlights and where many are also council owned.

Also it's not just players involved with soccer that can throw a spanner into the works. Players from my own club past & present have also been involved in rugby, golf, snooker and even badminton etc. which have interfered with gathering players up for playing games or training.

Friday night ACFL games have proved popular in the county over the past three seasons but IMO if it's to continue then the reserve leagues/games will ultimately have to be split off to be played at another time, as is the case in the majority of counties in Ulster. If we were to play the remaining ACFL games as standalone fixtures without a corresponding reserve tie beforehand, we could easily keep them to running on Friday evenings until the end of the league at the start of September with throw-in's between 7.00-7.30.
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« Reply #45650 on: August 09, 2022, 01:28:43 PM »
Slippery slope. Over time this will give soccer clubs all the power, the GAA clubs need to make a firm stance early.

If there's a slippery slope argument, then it was locally lost long ago. There's long been a due deference within GAA circles to get games that have been fixed changed to accommodate various matters beyond the general control of a club involved. OTOH in Junior soccer (Fermanagh & Western League, anyway) there is a much more rigid culture in sticking to fixture lists - it's rare for a club to get a fixture changed unless it is (a) made well in advance i.e. several weeks, or (b) due to weather conditions or bereavement postponing a game. Outside of that it's pretty much the case that your league game is down for 2.00 or 2.30 on a Saturday afternoon and if you can't gather up 11 players for it, then tough. You could argue that the GAA in Tyrone should adopt a similar stance, but it's highly unlikely to benefit them in the long run especially if you look at how Junior soccer clubs often fair themselves when they're often missing out on players at the beginning and end of their season because several of them give preference to Gaelic football (the defunct Ballygawley FC springs to mind). Also, compared to Gaelic football which is a summer sport and thus can have games usually easily enough moved to an alternative evening with sufficient daylight available, local junior soccer rarely has much headway to getting games played outside of Saturday mornings or afternoons on grounds that rarely have playable floodlights and where many are also council owned.

Also it's not just players involved with soccer that can throw a spanner into the works. Players from my own club past & present have also been involved in rugby, golf, snooker and even badminton etc. which have interfered with gathering players up for playing games or training.

Friday night ACFL games have proved popular in the county over the past three seasons but IMO if it's to continue then the reserve leagues/games will ultimately have to be split off to be played at another time, as is the case in the majority of counties in Ulster. If we were to play the remaining ACFL games as standalone fixtures without a corresponding reserve tie beforehand, we could easily keep them to running on Friday evenings until the end of the league at the start of September with throw-in's between 7.00-7.30.

Just on your final point re reserves fixtures. Only 3 games left for reserves in D1&2, no reason their league didnít start a month earlier and finish it off, thus allowing the Fridays as you mentioned

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« Reply #45651 on: August 09, 2022, 01:42:58 PM »
Four Sundays in the year isnít too much to ask. Fridays are good at the start but with light fading becomes a rushing match to fit them in. Iíd say Sundays suit more people than Saturdays. Lot of boys work on Saturday evenings and thereís a lot (particularly reserves) who play soccer on a Saturday.

The GAA should not be accomodating soccer when scheduling games.

All well in theory, but if you put players into a position where they have to choose between the two and in the end a significant amount decide to go with playing soccer over Gaelic football then it's likely some teams will fail to field, depriving game time not only of their own players that are willing to play but also their opponents. Communication between all involved is needed.

Slippery slope. Over time this will give soccer clubs all the power, the GAA clubs need to make a firm stance early.

What are you taking a stance against? Young athletes that want to play multiple sports?

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« Reply #45652 on: August 09, 2022, 01:52:30 PM »
Just on your final point re reserves fixtures. Only 3 games left for reserves in D1&2, no reason their league didnít start a month earlier and finish it off, thus allowing the Fridays as you mentioned

I guess if the clubs involved agreed they could have the senior game on the Friday evening with the corresponding reserve game played at some point on the following Saturday or Sunday, especially if the reserve game is a dead rubber? As it is this Friday night sees the SRFC & IRFC semi-finals and the JRFC quarter finals.
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« Reply #45653 on: August 10, 2022, 08:00:39 AM »
Is there league play offs this year to win Div1
Or is it just who finished top

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« Reply #45654 on: August 10, 2022, 08:03:37 AM »
Is there league play offs this year to win Div1
Or is it just who finished top

League playoffs this year.

Next year it is changed to no playoffs for winners or relegation.


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« Reply #45655 on: August 10, 2022, 08:14:08 AM »
Is it 2 relegated or possibly 3 ?

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« Reply #45656 on: August 10, 2022, 08:15:23 AM »
i dont think the gaa should bow down to relgious services (assuming it was a religious wedding) would they call matches off if  a player wanted a match off because of ramadan i know its a hypothetical

Where would it end? What about a christening? An 18th birthday party?
A funeral I can understand because it's a mark of respect but a wedding? Not for me.
Heard there is a history with the 2 clubs so maybe that has clouded his judgement when posting it.
Also heard Pomeroy have applied to get their match with Gortin moved now after hearing about this. Hugh Pat getting married that weekend. Be interesting to see what Gortin do...

Update... to nobody's suprise they have refused the request. Hypocrites.

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« Reply #45657 on: August 10, 2022, 09:23:22 AM »
Clonoe v Coalisland this Sunday.

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« Reply #45658 on: August 10, 2022, 09:52:05 AM »
Is it 2 relegated or possibly 3 ?

That's correct/

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« Reply #45659 on: August 10, 2022, 09:52:44 AM »
i dont think the gaa should bow down to relgious services (assuming it was a religious wedding) would they call matches off if  a player wanted a match off because of ramadan i know its a hypothetical

Where would it end? What about a christening? An 18th birthday party?
A funeral I can understand because it's a mark of respect but a wedding? Not for me.
Heard there is a history with the 2 clubs so maybe that has clouded his judgement when posting it.
Also heard Pomeroy have applied to get their match with Gortin moved now after hearing about this. Hugh Pat getting married that weekend. Be interesting to see what Gortin do...

Update... to nobody's suprise they have refused the request. Hypocrites.


Facebook rant looks very silly now.