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#16
GAA Discussion / Re: GaaGo
April 05, 2025, 11:42:27 AM
Quote from: AnDúnAbú94 on April 04, 2025, 05:33:31 PM
Quote from: statto on April 03, 2025, 08:37:37 AMHas anyone in North bought Gaa+? 

Whenever I try to purchase for €79 it says "This product is not available in your territory. You can view available packages below" and refers you to link to purchase for €90?

Had this issue and then emailed and was sent a different link, it worked fine when they sent me that. Apparently its an issue with certain internet and mobile providers showing people in the North's location as in Britain.

And of course people blame RTE, TG4 or GAA+ rather than the provider they have chosen to do business with!
Using a phone the site can check the GPS location.
#17
Quote from: trileacman on March 31, 2025, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2025, 08:56:04 PM
Quote from: mup on March 31, 2025, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2025, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 28, 2025, 07:54:36 PMWhat Kildare and Meath excuse with bigger populations than say teams like Roscommon, Monaghan, etc.
Balls.

Ulster teams and the likes of Roscommon don't yap about unfair advantages, they put the heads down and maximise what they have.

Kildare haven't won the AI in nearly 100 years and still have twice as many as Armagh.
Fairly embarrassing for Kildare given the population difference and the fact about half of what we do have wouldn't be too GAA inclined. And the fact we were abit busy with the Brits up here for most of the GAA's existence

If population is all that matters then Antrim are the GAAs greatest failures.

But it isn't and your just on the WUM.

Kildare has more people than the useful population of Antrim and a less challenging environment.
#18
Quote from: JoG2 on April 01, 2025, 08:58:33 AMThis will be my last post as I'm boring myself nevermind others, and I'm not trying to be difficult, honestly...i know what capacity is, but the wording below from the terms and conditions

In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity or venue restrictions the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture.

On a given day, for a certain match if the Ulster Council (who are putting the game on and who are wholly in control of how many can enter the turnstiles I assume) surely define what restrictions are in place ie reduced capacity because or a, y and z... Is this not their call?

The point is that the reduced capacity exceeds the number of ticket holders, but the GAA is choosing to give tickets to other people in preference to those that they engaged in a contract with. The season ticket contract does not mention these people getting preference or any basis for deciding who gets what. Basically the GAA reasonably decided that 3500 people would generally fit in and there was no need for complex wording to cater for a county refusing to move to a suitable ground, so they haven't left themselves much legal cover. 

You'll see some new wording in the future I suspect. Next year's ticket will say something like "In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds 50% (or some other number) of stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture". However, next year's wording won't play any part in this case.
#19
Quote from: mup on March 31, 2025, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2025, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 28, 2025, 07:54:36 PMWhat Kildare and Meath excuse with bigger populations than say teams like Roscommon, Monaghan, etc.
Balls.

Ulster teams and the likes of Roscommon don't yap about unfair advantages, they put the heads down and maximise what they have.

Kildare haven't won the AI in nearly 100 years and still have twice as many as Armagh.

Perhaps previous generations in Kildare were of more use. However, your comment understates the challenges of playing GAA in the 6 counties in the past.
#20
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 3 2025
March 31, 2025, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2025, 08:32:41 PM
QuoteWho seek fame

Did they do it to seek fame?

If yes then it is true but given that it's a highly unlikely scenario then yes I would say it's untrue.

That's fair comment. "Are best known for" would have been better.
#21
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 3 2025
March 31, 2025, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2025, 04:17:12 PMHis antrim one not great either but not surprising.

Was it untrue? I have some sympathy for Antrim who had built a fine stadium back in 1950s NI, which wasn't an very favourable environment, and lost it to bungling by the Ulster council. Kildare have had no such obstacles and are in one of the prosperous counties. Even their shiny new stadium has a stand less than half the size of the one in Offaly, a county with one third of the population, which shows a profound lack of ambition.
#22
Quote from: ONeill on March 30, 2025, 11:26:43 PMWould you get much of a view from the mountain if you brought binoculars?

Probably easier to watch on TV.
#23
General discussion / Re: Age Appropriate Dress
March 30, 2025, 10:02:14 PM
No way would I dress like the Young Ones.
#24
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 30, 2025, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: smelmoth on March 30, 2025, 04:25:35 PMI think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.


I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.
#25
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 3 2025
March 30, 2025, 04:13:24 PM
Well done Offaly, like Monaghan they are true GAA county, rather than likes of Kildare and Antrim with much bigger populations who seek fame mainly by trying to get games in their undersized stadiums.

Quote from: Gael85 on March 30, 2025, 03:31:21 PMMickey Harte 4th league title with 3 different counties since 2021.

2021 D4 joint league champions with Louth(no league finals that year)

2022 D3 league champions with Louth.

2024 D1 league champions with Derry.

2025 D3 league champions with Offaly.

Presumably winning Div 2 next year would complete the picture.
I'm not sure that Harte would win Sam, but he is a good man to bring a team on below that level.
#26
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 30, 2025, 03:16:53 PMThere is no chance these are low income families. It's someone who's nose is out of joint at the thought of not getting a ticket. They didn't even wait to see if they were going to get one before taking action which, to me, signals everything. They are more interested in getting the row than the actual impact of not getting a ticket. Had this been against a global commercial conglomerate I might have had some sympathy, even considered it principled. But that they are doing so against a community organisation such as the GAA is disgusting. It's akin to suing a charity.

That's not much of a point, they need to start the case while there is still time to change things.
If the GAA is a community organisation they why is it going to so much trouble to stop people going to its game?
#27
Quote from: JoG2 on March 29, 2025, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 29, 2025, 11:22:38 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 29, 2025, 10:48:28 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 29, 2025, 10:41:47 AMI agree entirely that it's embarrassing but with my legal head on there's a very strong argument that it's a clear breach of contract case. So I'd expect a quiet settlement.

How?


"In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture".



Exactly. In this case it doesn't. The capacity is above (by a couple of hundred) the number of season tickets. The email from the GAA admits that. The reason that season ticket holders aren't all being accommodated is because other groups, media, sponsors and county boards etc are.

Again I want to be very clear I am not condoning this in anyway. I am saying from the point of view of a purely contract law position I don't believe the GAA's terms and conditions protect them in this instance.

These other groups promote, organise maintain our games, in this case probably slightly more deserving of a ticket than 8 people who, we'll let's be honest more than likely bought a season ticket this year to secure a final ticket. There would be no game without these groups

Legally, how do they have a strong case? They'll be laughed out the door as they should be

The case would not be based on the need for these groups to get tickets. The case would be based on the GAA choosing to schedule the game in an excessively small ground. There will be plenty of examples where this was not done, currently Louth play in Inniskeen, Kildare played in Carlow, Armagh played in Clones.
#28
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 28, 2025, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 28, 2025, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 28, 2025, 04:02:00 PMFirst-come first-served for Armagh season ticket holders. it doesn't say how many are available; 500 would be quite different from 2000.

I am aware that legal proceedings have been threatened if refunds on season tickets aren't offered. So things may change by next week.

Threatened by whom? Where were these litigious individuals last year in Eniskillen when there were a total of 7,000 in attendance (bearing in mind there would have been a Fermanagh contingent in attendance)? Surely this nonsense is embarrassing for any right-minded Armagh supporters.

What's embarrassing about it? They sell you a ticket which is supposed to allow buy a ticket for games, then they schedule the games so that you cannot use it. It is an embarrassment to the GAA.
#29
Quote from: Orior on March 28, 2025, 09:01:06 PMAm disappointed to see that there isn't options for 55-60, 61-70, 71-80 and 80+

An oul fellow like you would.
But why not 55-59, 50-64 65-70 etc?
#30
Quote from: David McKeown on March 28, 2025, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 28, 2025, 04:02:00 PMFirst-come first-served for Armagh season ticket holders. it doesn't say how many are available; 500 would be quite different from 2000.

I am aware that legal proceedings have been threatened if refunds on season tickets aren't offered. So things may change by next week.

Is it true that in 2020 Tyrone season ticket holders got All Ireland tickets and Mayo season ticket holders did not?