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#61
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...
Last post by Look-Up! - Today at 03:02:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on Today at 12:04:41 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on Today at 11:42:27 AMVVD plays in a vital position. Still has plenty to give and a natural leader. I think it would be too risky to get rid, unless his heart not in it and he wants away himself. Earns 150k less than Salah, who I think is a big problem going forward not only because of his poor form, but he's putting massive upward pressure on future wage negotiations, be that existing contract renewals or new signings. 

Bank the Saudi cash for Salah and go for Ivan Toney, seriously rate that lad, he'll get 20 plus a year on a good team.

Salah is bang out of form, there's no doubting that, but Liverpools main assists used to come from wide, TTA and Robertson, TAA injured quite a lot this year and so has Robertson, who's been below par as well.

Carragher has given up on Nunez, seems to think he'll not get any better than what he is now and although his rates of scoring from really good chances is poor, surely that's something that still can be worked on, no?

Gakpo looked a bit better the last few games, probably missed last night, but not complaining..

Great shout on Toney. I don't think you can blame assists because an assist is only an assist if the chance is converted. Creating chances is not a problem for Liverpool.

I'd agree with Carragher. He's had 2 years, he's a 7-10 goals a season striker at best. He's even doing well to maintain that rate in a team where he's getting an embarrassment of chances. People saying he'll come good, or if he could just develop the finishing of Fowler he'd be class etc. You could equally say if Jozy Altidore was hypnotized to believe he was Lionel Messi, the result would be Darwin Nunez.
#62
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...
Last post by NAG1 - Today at 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: Turf on Today at 02:58:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on Today at 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on Today at 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

They hadn't won any league titles in the 30 years previous, 1 in 9 isn't bad considering!
I'm actually genuinely intrigued about how someone couldn't see him as anything other than a success at the club but sure each to their own I'm not here to change anyone's opinion on him.
Liverpool fans will hold him in the highest of esteems and probably won't care what any other fans think.

I was just curious, I know he is a bit of a cult figure. Just wondered if looking back it will be with a bit of regret that it was only one title.

That being said United would take a single title at the moment any season.
#63
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...
Last post by Turf - Today at 02:58:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on Today at 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on Today at 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

They hadn't won any league titles in the 30 years previous, 1 in 9 isn't bad considering!
I'm actually genuinely intrigued about how someone couldn't see him as anything other than a success at the club but sure each to their own I'm not here to change anyone's opinion on him.
Liverpool fans will hold him in the highest of esteems and probably won't care what any other fans think.
#64
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...
Last post by tiempo - Today at 02:56:16 PM
Inherited a mess, won the big titles and competed against a nation state. No mean feat.
#65
General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...
Last post by NAG1 - Today at 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Turf on Today at 01:17:41 PMMaybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.
#66
Quote from: yellowcard on Today at 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on Today at 09:12:54 AMI didn't see the Derry/Donegal match, but I am seriously impressed by any team allegedly out played who's best players were stymied but still managed 17 points. Goals win games but can be prevented. it was 15 scores to 17.

I can never understand this post match analysis which counts the number of scores rather than total up the number of points. There is a reason why a goal is worth 3 points and that is because they are supposed to be much more difficult to score.

Mickey Harte has yet to prove that he can adapt tactically to prevent goal chances against his side while still carrying a goal threat at the other end of the pitch. He did neither last weekend.   

The latter was in no small part to the way Donegal set up. Derry was scoring goals for fun coming into last weekends game.
#67
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...
Last post by yellowcard - Today at 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on Today at 09:12:54 AMI didn't see the Derry/Donegal match, but I am seriously impressed by any team allegedly out played who's best players were stymied but still managed 17 points. Goals win games but can be prevented. it was 15 scores to 17.

I can never understand this post match analysis which counts the number of scores rather than total up the number of points. There is a reason why a goal is worth 3 points and that is because they are supposed to be much more difficult to score.

Mickey Harte has yet to prove that he can adapt tactically to prevent goal chances against his side while still carrying a goal threat at the other end of the pitch. He did neither last weekend.   
#68
GAA Discussion / Re: Casement Park in line for ...
Last post by Brendan - Today at 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on Today at 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: markl121 on Today at 12:50:26 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on Today at 12:41:30 PMExchequer gets nothing from match tickets here.
Heard this at the weekend, GAA pay taxes on Northern games but no on Southern games

Could we move the Stormont funded stadium to South Armagh and put the entrances in Louth?

That route is already busy...
#69
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
Last post by Lubo Moravcik - Today at 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on Today at 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on Today at 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on Today at 11:09:53 AMSeen some tosser making a dick of himself outside the courtroom when Donaldson came out. Some people do anything to post online.

Major c**k up by the police to bring him out and no transport. Saw a photo of that man and he looks exactly like you expect him to. Bryson seems to think he's a republican.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1783121474527580403

I'm almost certain Ben Lowry says good to see you to him and seemed to know where he was from.

Could be a republican but highly unlikely.


Doesn't look like he knows him to me. Ben Lowry just being nosy.
#70
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
Last post by johnnycool - Today at 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on Today at 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on Today at 11:09:53 AMSeen some tosser making a dick of himself outside the courtroom when Donaldson came out. Some people do anything to post online.

Major c**k up by the police to bring him out and no transport. Saw a photo of that man and he looks exactly like you expect him to. Bryson seems to think he's a republican.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1783121474527580403

I'm almost certain Ben Lowry says good to see you to him and seemed to know where he was from.

Could be a republican but highly unlikely.