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Surely there comes a point where other avenues for legal challenges are exhausted, or is there no mechanism to call for any and all challenges to be submitted by xxxx date so they can be dealt with one way or the other and progress either happens or an alternative is sorted?

Did some people really think Celtic would get a result last night? What was this based on?

There's a huge difference between getting a result and enduring a humiliation.

I'd have been delighted with a draw and a 1 or 2 goal defeat would have been disappointing but entirely understandable, however ANOTHER 7 goal hammering under BR = unacceptable.

We've now lost (away in CL under BR)
7-1 v Dortmund
6-0 v Athletico
7-1 and 5-0 v PSG
7-0 v Barca

Look at the teams you've listed. Celtic are completely light years behind all those teams. Celtic getting results in Europe is like a 3rd division team hoping to get a result against a premier league team in the FA cup (it happens once in a while). If Brendy parked the bus and Celtic got beat 3 nil last night people would be giving off for them 'not having a go'.

Celtic, man for man, absolutely would have inferior teams compared to these, but there are plenty of lesser teams in the CL who have successfully set themselves up as hard to beat away from home and get results.

Saying fcuk it let's go man2man and attack all out because the fans demand it is crazy, there are ways to be defensively minded but still 'have a go' on the counter.

I'd also suggest that most fans would prefer some form of set up that (at least on paper) gives the team a chance and doesn't result in utter humiliation..2-0 or 3-0 away to an elite team is understandable, 7-0, 7-1 etc you are a laughing stock.

No other manager in the CL has consistently had these type of results, I would imagine because after one hiding away from home they learn a lesson.

Any word on McElholm and the potential swtich to AFL?

Did some people really think Celtic would get a result last night? What was this based on?

There's a huge difference between getting a result and enduring a humiliation.

I'd have been delighted with a draw and a 1 or 2 goal defeat would have been disappointing but entirely understandable, however ANOTHER 7 goal hammering under BR = unacceptable.

We've now lost (away in CL under BR)
7-1 v Dortmund
6-0 v Athletico
7-1 and 5-0 v PSG
7-0 v Barca

Really don't understand BR approach to these games. Getting hammered 5,6,7s away and point blank refusing to adapt to a more defensive style.

Barca, Dortmund etc are far, far away from the level of Dundee, Hearts etc, yet Celtic naively try to press teams who can cut them open with 2 or 3 passes and who are much more unforgiving to mistakes. You just can't try and go toe to toe with them, especially away from home.

The SPL is nowhere near the level of the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and cruising it in domestic football shouldnlt let you think it is.
 
Also..... at which point will it sink in.... CalMac is not and never will be a DM.

Peter Donnelly too big to add to ticket?   

Is Porter not an S&C guy?

Would him and PD not be doing essentially the same job or has PD a wider remit these days ?

Great stuff, hopefully he is able to put together his first choice backroom team and away we go for 2025.....

I'm not sure the 'born' in Tyrone bit   

My point was maybe they only want someone born in Tyrone or maybe they are  happy with getting the best person for the job, no matter where they are born or live......

To me MoR seems to be one of the best managers available AND has sufficient Tyrone credentials, given his time lving in the County and the Errigal connections

I would find it absolutely astounding if MoR allowed his name to go forward without knowing exactly what the Tyrone Co Board were going to offer (or not) in terms of support.

I would equally find it astouding if the TCB did not know what and who MoR wanted in place as part of his coaching set up, including any expenses (or not).

Maybe MoR doesn't want any payment. Maybe he does.

Maybe the TCB don't want to pay anyone. Maybe they do.

Maybe the TCB only wnat a manager born and reared in Tyrone, maybe they just want best person for the job.

Whatever the situation I'd be really surprised if both parties didn't know the other's position before now and, while I've certainly been wrong before,  for a job like this I don't think there would be much left to chance by the time nominations come round.

While it was a poor enough game in terms of skill, the tension (and relief at the final whistle) during and after the 2005 semi final v Armagh was hard to beat

I would be very surprised if Tyrone would go outside the county, there are enough talented managers and coaches amongst our own without going outside of it.

Who would you see as the top #5 from inside the county?

Sevco made the Europa final recently with an inferior team.

Not unreasonable an expectation for Celtic to be competitive in it also (assuming they can land there after CL)

Just curious - why is 1990 considered the starting point of 'modern era' football?

[The conditioning, tactics and the belief they have is vastly ahead of Tyrone at the moment]

I hope so and the fact Tyrone have beaten them in recent history should also provide the drive to improve. Tho they have raised it a level this year with all their squad available. The conditioning, tactics and the belief they have is vastly ahead of Tyrone at the moment

Hats off to Armagh fully deserving of their All Ireland win. No one can convince me that Armagh man for man have significantly better players than us but the 3 things you mention above are true. I guess with no news about management moving on at this stage they are staying on for at least another year. Here's hoping Armaghs win will give everyone a kick up the backside. . .

Hopefully...but unfortunately a change in S&C and tactics (and the associated increase in belief that would hopefully bring)  take time to embed and get to the point where you are challenging for AIs.

Tyrone seem to have been be folloing the law of diminishing returns by keeping L&D in the job, culminating in that embarrasing first half against Roscommon.

The current players are every bit as good as what Armagh, Galway etc have and there is a a conveyor of talent waiting to be brought through.

Main issue with tipping nowdays in the US is the increasing lack of good service, while still in full expectance of a 20% tip.

Efficiency, helpfulness and courtesy, the x3 essentials should determine the tip level, not just being alive.