Assaults at GAA games

[LeoMc]

an eye Gough at a game in cork yesterday.

Is David ok?

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https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/1106/1415027-tullamore-player-faces-96-week-ban-for-referee-push/

A 96-week ban has been proposed for a Tullamore player who pushed a referee to the ground, RTÉ Sport understands.

Barry Tiernan was knocked to the ground after officiating Tullamore's 1-07 to 1-09 defeat to Summerhill in a AIB Leinster Club SFC meeting at O'Connor Park on 22 October.

At the end of the game, Tiernan was approached by a number of supporters, before being pushed by someone who has been identified as a Tullamore player, who hadn't played on the day.

The incident occurred after Tullamore were awarded a close-range free late in the game, before Tiernan upgraded the decision to a penalty after consultation with the umpires.

Then, having discussed with his linesman, Tiernan overturned the decision again, before John Furlong's free was eventually blocked in a crowded goalmouth.

Tullamore are contemplating requesting a hearing and the case could be taken to the Disputes Resolution Authority.

A 48-week ban has also been proposed for a Tullamore official who approached the linesman at the end of the game.

"I saw it myself and I can't deny it, a disgraceful incident," Offaly chairman Michael Duignan told RTÉ Radio 1's Sunday Sport at the time.

"There was a bit of controversy at the end where the referee awarded a penalty and then it was overruled and obviously the players were frustrated and they were remonstrating.

"But there was no danger, the players were well away from the ref coming off the field. The Tullamore team are a very sporting team, just disappointed, which you would be.

"But somebody came in from the terrace then and pushed the referee from behind so it was terrible. It's a very, very tough job and I would have had my arguments over the years with refs but you wouldn't dream about laying a finger on a referee.

"So look, I'm very sorry it happened here today and I'm sure it'll be dealt with in due course."

[Milltown Row2]

I think the only thing to worry about here is about awarding the correct decision, and if after consulting the other officials who were better placed, and got the correct decision then what is the fuss about?

The player was either fouled outside the box or inside it...

The ref would have been hammered by the other team if he gave the 'wrong' decision

I'm not sure the statement above reflects the correct call by the referee and his team.

That said, I haven't seen the footage, but have read reports from others saying it was the right call..

Going forward, the ref should have blown for a free, made his way to the incident, talked immediately to his umpires and linesmen and then make a call on whether it was inside or out, it would have at least shifted any blame on him and put it solely on the player that fouled

[Cavan19]

I think the only thing to worry about here is about awarding the correct decision, and if after consulting the other officials who were better placed, and got the correct decision then what is the fuss about?

The player was either fouled outside the box or inside it...

The ref would have been hammered by the other team if he gave the 'wrong' decision

I'm not sure the statement above reflects the correct call by the referee and his team.

That said, I haven't seen the footage, but have read reports from others saying it was the right call..

Going forward, the ref should have blown for a free, made his way to the incident, talked immediately to his umpires and linesmen and then make a call on whether it was inside or out, it would have at least shifted any blame on him and put it solely on the player that fouled

It wasn't a foul on a player the ball was picked of the ground.

[Milltown Row2]

Technical foul outside the box is a free, if defender picks up ball in the small square penalty.. That should be easy enough to work out and those closest would have seen that?

So it was either a free or a penalty, why did the Tullamore lads complain if it was the correct call?

[RedHand88]

I saw the video at the time. It was the correct call. Tullamore and the player involved haven't a leg to stand on.
The ball was outside the 6 yard box. No penalty.
Glad it's been dealt with accordingly.

[Cavan19]

Technical foul outside the box is a free, if defender picks up ball in the small square penalty.. That should be easy enough to work out and those closest would have seen that?

So it was either a free or a penalty, why did the Tullamore lads complain if it was the correct call?

The Referee lost the run of himself in that he gave a free, then spoke to umpires and gave a penalty, then linesman intervened and he changed back to a free which was the right call. ( or something like that going by what i have read). They obviously complained because they though they were going to get a chance to win the game and then it was took away from them and emotions got the better of them.

[Milltown Row2]

Technical foul outside the box is a free, if defender picks up ball in the small square penalty.. That should be easy enough to work out and those closest would have seen that?

So it was either a free or a penalty, why did the Tullamore lads complain if it was the correct call?

The Referee lost the run of himself in that he gave a free, then spoke to umpires and gave a penalty, then linesman intervened and he changed back to a free which was the right call. ( or something like that going by what i have read). They obviously complained because they though they were going to get a chance to win the game and then it was took away from them and emotions got the better of them.

The right call was made though, if what you are saying is correct, for someone now to get a 48 week ban for assaulting a referee who got the correct decision, albeit with some confusion will look and feel a bit daft..

The call for picking the ball up in the small square is not a ordinary run of the mill call, I've seen it being called  and the ref gave a free when it was inside the square and should have been a penalty, and remember seeing one referee give a penalty after defender touched ball in the rectangle!!

Maybe the linesman in this case explained to him what the correct call was, rather than the umpires who are not generally referee's

Either way both teams have a chance to win the game, they have the 60 plus minutes to win it had he stuck with the original call then no issues, games at championship, with everything on the line can be tense for EVERYBODY, not just the management/players/supporters

Hopefully the 48 weeks stick and be a lesson for others not to just go around taking out their frustration on the referees

[befair]

Whether the call was corect or incorrect is irrelevant; refs will make mistakes, just like players will. Did any of the Tullamore players miss an easy score? Were they assaulted after the game by their own supporters? I don't understand why refs tolerate the abuse they receive; no refs, no games.

[Rossfan]

If a player was attacked for say missing a close in free, or blazing a goal chance wide....
The attackers would deservedly be condemned and if they were GAA members rightfully banned.
Ref is attacked and a large number will say "what did he expect?" Or "he's a crap Ref" etc.
GAA and Ref should take a civil case for damages against perpetrators.

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A Co Tyrone GAA player has narrowly avoided prison over a "cowardly and disgusting" on-pitch attack.
The victim of the assault by Shea O'Neill could have "lasting consequences" after being bitten in the face and grabbed by the genitals, a court heard.

But the GAA has refused to clarify if any action has been taken over the assault during a match last year, while O'Neill was subject to a suspended sentence for previous violent offending.

O'Neill (27), from North Close, Stewartstown, engaged in what a judge described as "disgusting and cowardly" behaviour by biting into the face of an opponent while also grabbing his genitals during the on-pitch incident.

Dungannon Magistrates Court heard the attack occurred after an altercation erupted between two rival teams on October 10, 2022.

A defence barrister conceded O'Neill was previously subject to a suspended sentence for a different serious assault in 2019 which was handed down by Dungannon Crown Court.

However, he urged Deputy District Judge Sean O'Hare to impose a probation order and not a custodial sentence.

He said his client had lodged £1,000 with his solicitor "to demonstrate his remorse" by way of compensation to the victim.

Addressing O'Neill directly, Judge O'Hare condemned the act as "cowardly and disgusting, especially given the context of a sporting environment."

He also noted that the incident could have lasting consequences for the victim.

While acknowledging O'Neill's early acceptance of the matter, Judge O'Hare advised he had initially considered imposing a lengthy sentence and activating the suspended sentence.

However, he ultimately opted for a combination order consisting of 100 hours of community service, coupled with a two-year probation supervision period.

He warned O'Neill, "Any breach will result in an 18-month custodial sentence."

Judge O'Hare also ordered him to pay £2,500 compensation to the victim.

The issue over the suspended sentence has been referred back to Dungannon Crown Court for consideration against the current offending.

Despite the gravity of the incident, the Ulster Council of the GAA has remained silent despite requests for comment.

It is therefore unclear if any sanction has been imposed on O'Neill.

[NormPeterson]

Not the first time a Tyrone footballer has been involved in a "ball grabbing" incident. I remember watching a movie on an adult site if anyone gets my drift.

[JoG2]

Not the first time a Tyrone footballer has been involved in a "ball grabbing" incident. I remember watching a movie on an adult site if anyone gets my drift.

Poor post... But, whatever floats your boat Norm, we're not here to judge

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Normmmmmmmmmmm!!

[armaghniac]

Tyrone minor game
https://twitter.com/thegaeliccorner/status/1724197184072032516