A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

[seafoid]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

[Milltown Row2]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

[BennyCake]

Seafoid even in Portadown my.parents were never once out of work and they both would have started in the 1940s.My father was the sole Catholic employee in the company.The alternative a UI would probably have led to emigration to England to find work as was the lot of so many in the South.

What about the thousands in the North that did have to leave for England? It wasn't as if the Orange state had fair employment legislation back then! Your parents case were obviously the exception rather than the rule.

[seafoid]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

Not in a united Ireland which will still have EU funding

[Milltown Row2]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

Not in a united Ireland which will still have EU funding

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? Do they lose out down in prosperous south??

[seafoid]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

Not in a united Ireland which will still have EU funding

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? Do they lose out down in prosperous south??

They all vote Fine Gael

[Milltown Row2]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

Not in a united Ireland which will still have EU funding

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? Do they lose out down in prosperous south??

They all vote Fine Gael

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? And do they lose out in a prosperous South?

[seafoid]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

Not in a united Ireland which will still have EU funding

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? Do they lose out down in prosperous south??

They all vote Fine Gael

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? And do they lose out in a prosperous South?

They will have EU support, tariff less access to EU markets and won't be tied to sterling. All of those will be better than being lashed to the UK.

[Milltown Row2]

Andersons are some UK crowd who advise farmers and say Brexit will be highly disruptive so hold off on investment. Protestant farmers will lose out.

Will catholic farmers lose out?

Not in a united Ireland which will still have EU funding

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? Do they lose out down in prosperous south??

They all vote Fine Gael

So will Protestant farmers lose out in a UI? And do they lose out in a prosperous South?

They will have EU support, tariff less access to EU markets and won't be tied to sterling. All of those will be better than being lashed to the UK.

So your post was full of shit then?

[seafoid]

Disadvantaged areas like Throne, Cornwall, Sunderland etc have most to gain from continued EU membership. Farmers too because the UK won't maintain EU levels of subsidy.  It looks as though Tory politics mean a hard exit with no trade deal with the EU. So protestants in the North will have to think about the way forward.

[T Fearon]

I am not suggesting for one moment there was not widespread discrimination,gerrymandering in the North but I think its effects were over estimated.My parents were of the opinion that there was work of some description always for those who wanted it.As I've said before the middle classes of all hues were exempt from discrimination,Portadown like everywhere else always had its fair share of Catholic professionals and business people who started and grew businesses and lived in the leafy suburbs.

Much the same as the Protestant middle classes in the South I expect.

Seafoid there will be no hard Brexit,despite the bluster.As experienced commentator Alex Kane up here said last week,the Brexit will be so soft (assuming it goes ahead at all) that it will be unnoticeable

[Milltown Row2]

Disadvantaged areas like Throne, Cornwall, Sunderland etc have most to gain from continued EU membership. Farmers too because the UK won't maintain EU levels of subsidy.  It looks as though Tory politics mean a hard exit with no trade deal with the EU. So protestants in the North will have to think about the way forward.

Protestant farmers won't make or break an UI! Make a very very small minority of votes tbh

[seafoid]

I am not suggesting for one moment there was not widespread discrimination,gerrymandering in the North but I think its effects were over estimated.My parents were of the opinion that there was work of some description always for those who wanted it.As I've said before the middle classes of all hues were exempt from discrimination,Portadown like everywhere else always had its fair share of Catholic professionals and business people who started and grew businesses and lived in the leafy suburbs.

Much the same as the Protestant middle classes in the South I expect.

Seafoid there will be no hard Brexit,despite the bluster.As experienced commentator Alex Kane up here said last week,the Brexit will be so soft (assuming it goes ahead at all) that it will be unnoticeable

Tony your Prime Minister on Sky today confirmed out means out. No Single Market.
Immigration is driving the show. Even more important than the economy. Sterling will be savaged. The City won't get passporting either. The UK owes £1.5 tn and has a deficit of 6% of GDP. It is really going to hurt.

[T Fearon]

All bluster.Tory donors are threatening to cut the funds if they leave the EU.Won't happen

[seafoid]

All bluster.Tory donors are threatening to cut the funds if they leave the EU.Won't happen

What happened to sterling indicates this is senior hurling. Senior sterling hurling

https://www.ft.com/content/6d28715a-d59a-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e
"Theresa May has indicated that Britain will leave the EU single market as she set out her determination to strike a post-Brexit trading deal that allows her to control immigration from the rest of Europe.
Mrs May said she was not interested in trying to "keep bits of membership" of the EU, rather that she wanted a bespoke British deal with the rest of Europe that delivered "the best possible deal for UK companies".
The prime minister's allies admit the EU will not allow Britain to stay a member of the single market, given that Mrs May has already said that controlling immigration and ending European Court of Justice jurisdiction were red lines."

the Eurosceptics are not rational