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magpie seanie

Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Missing the fact that RvP picked up a winners medal? And was on fire for a good part of that season.

Scored a lot of goals and United clearly wouldn't have won that league without him. There are loads of examples of bad spending but that isn't one of them.

Bord na Mona man

Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 12, 2018, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 12, 2018, 12:13:25 PM
If Ronaldo had had some sort of 11th hour change of heart and decided to stay the club would have had to sell other players or come up with other means of raising cash quickly. That is a fact. The cashflow situation at the time was very, very tight.

I don't know why this stuff is so hard for people to grasp.

We're wasting our time.

All the evidence is there in the accounts and with Fergie's lack of spending to back up the theory.

Spending £100m back from 09 to 11 would have saved the Glazers spending £300m since Fergie left.
Aye, but £100m back then roughly equates to £300m in today's transfer market. A 24 year old Cristiano Ronaldo would sell for around the £300m mark nowadays.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2018, 01:17:03 PM
Missing the fact that RvP picked up a winners medal? And was on fire for a good part of that season.

As I said it was short-termism, you got one good season out of him. I think it was a bad use of funds.

TabClear

Quote from: magpie seanie on January 12, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
You're correct MM. United slipping from being a club in contention for winning things has meant even more exorbitant fees, attracting the "wrong" type of player (in desperation to get talent in), and having to suck up to scum like Jose and his mate the superagent. And United aren't out of that particularly disgusting woods yet either - far from it.

Bomber - if you do not understand that it is a fact please have a look at United's accounts.

These leeches need to be reeled in. I'm all for fair pay for services provided but agents fees and influence has got out of control with the likes of Pogba's deal. The Barkley deal to Chelsea stinks as well. Unfortunately unless all the big clubs take a united approach to this the backhanders and side deals will continue which only benefits the agent. Not the clubs, fans or even players in most cases.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: TabClear on January 12, 2018, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 12, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
You're correct MM. United slipping from being a club in contention for winning things has meant even more exorbitant fees, attracting the "wrong" type of player (in desperation to get talent in), and having to suck up to scum like Jose and his mate the superagent. And United aren't out of that particularly disgusting woods yet either - far from it.

Bomber - if you do not understand that it is a fact please have a look at United's accounts.

These leeches need to be reeled in. I'm all for fair pay for services provided but agents fees and influence has got out of control with the likes of Pogba's deal. The Barkley deal to Chelsea stinks as well. Unfortunately unless all the big clubs take a united approach to this the backhanders and side deals will continue which only benefits the agent. Not the clubs, fans or even players in most cases.

Didn't Ferguson have a lot of dodgy deals involving his son as an agent?

magpie seanie

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on January 12, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 12, 2018, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 12, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
You're correct MM. United slipping from being a club in contention for winning things has meant even more exorbitant fees, attracting the "wrong" type of player (in desperation to get talent in), and having to suck up to scum like Jose and his mate the superagent. And United aren't out of that particularly disgusting woods yet either - far from it.

Bomber - if you do not understand that it is a fact please have a look at United's accounts.

These leeches need to be reeled in. I'm all for fair pay for services provided but agents fees and influence has got out of control with the likes of Pogba's deal. The Barkley deal to Chelsea stinks as well. Unfortunately unless all the big clubs take a united approach to this the backhanders and side deals will continue which only benefits the agent. Not the clubs, fans or even players in most cases.

Didn't Ferguson have a lot of dodgy deals involving his son as an agent?

Go on. You tell us.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: magpie seanie on January 12, 2018, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on January 12, 2018, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 12, 2018, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 12, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
You're correct MM. United slipping from being a club in contention for winning things has meant even more exorbitant fees, attracting the "wrong" type of player (in desperation to get talent in), and having to suck up to scum like Jose and his mate the superagent. And United aren't out of that particularly disgusting woods yet either - far from it.

Bomber - if you do not understand that it is a fact please have a look at United's accounts.

These leeches need to be reeled in. I'm all for fair pay for services provided but agents fees and influence has got out of control with the likes of Pogba's deal. The Barkley deal to Chelsea stinks as well. Unfortunately unless all the big clubs take a united approach to this the backhanders and side deals will continue which only benefits the agent. Not the clubs, fans or even players in most cases.

Didn't Ferguson have a lot of dodgy deals involving his son as an agent?

Go on. You tell us.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2004/may/26/newsstory.sport3

Milltown Row2

nepotism! happens daily... Father helping son (legally) earn money... Shocker
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Megaman

What do we think of Sanchez

Seems to depend if Wenger will do business with Man Utd & Jose, if so he will be a Utd player before City.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2018, 03:33:50 PM
nepotism! happens daily... Father helping son (legally) earn money... Shocker

Legally?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on January 12, 2018, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2018, 03:33:50 PM
nepotism! happens daily... Father helping son (legally) earn money... Shocker

Legally?

I didnt read that they were charged.. did you leave that bit out ? Fergie was having a bit of a fall out with old friends over a horse and decided to throw some muck, Old Trafford bosses pereferred to have a sqeaky clean look so stopped the practice..

United's most revealing admission was that "the board recognises the concerns over the connections between Elite and Sir Alex Ferguson. In future Manchester United will not employ Elite to act for the club".
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Therealdonald

Why does any working man or woman care about the accounts of United, or Liverpool or Arsenal or Chelsea etc. These are billion dollar companies, backed up by established billionaires, not some start-up company. You'd nearly think transfer fees were coming out of their pockets.

tonto1888

Quote from: Megaman on January 12, 2018, 03:56:46 PM
What do we think of Sanchez

Seems to depend if Wenger will do business with Man Utd & Jose, if so he will be a Utd player before City.

where does he fit in at united?

Therealdonald

He fits in ahead of Martial or Lingard that's where he fits in.

Minder

Quote from: Megaman on January 12, 2018, 03:56:46 PM
What do we think of Sanchez

Seems to depend if Wenger will do business with Man Utd & Jose, if so he will be a Utd player before City.

Prefers a move to City but they aren't willing to pony up apparently
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"