Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[johnneycool]

Very early plans had a bridge over the motorway and that would have helped ''neutralise'' the venue somewhat but as it stand I agree a large % of the population would feel uncomfortable going to Casement to watch a concert. That is probably my main concern over the site much of the other negative comments are rubbish you only have to look at the success of Croke park. A stadium squeezed into a tight site with few links in what was a run down part of town

until you try to get parking anywhere near the place!

[cluaineois]

Very early plans had a bridge over the motorway and that would have helped ''neutralise'' the venue somewhat but as it stand I agree a large % of the population would feel uncomfortable going to Casement to watch a concert. That is probably my main concern over the site much of the other negative comments are rubbish you only have to look at the success of Croke park. A stadium squeezed into a tight site with few links in what was a run down part of town

Comparing this proposed development to croke park is a bit pie in the sky. As it stands you are looking at one possible full house in any given year and that is dependent on which counties qualify for the ulster final.

[Applesisapples]

Guys one advantage Casement has over Clones is the availability of park and ride, successfully used for Tennants Vital, Stormont Concerts and other venues. The Stadium looks amazing... give it a chance.

[armaghniac]

Guys one advantage Casement has over Clones is the availability of park and ride

Time for the wasters in Stormont to reopen the railway to Clones!

[Walter Cronc]

Guys one advantage Casement has over Clones is the availability of park and ride

Time for the wasters in Stormont to reopen the railway to Clones!

Could we not just use the Ulster Canal?!!

[armaghniac]

Could we not just use the Ulster Canal?!!

No. The Ulster canal has only been opened towards Fermanagh, an Ulster final venue really needs to facilitate Tyrone, Armagh and Down.

[Walter Cronc]

Could we not just use the Ulster Canal?!!

No. The Ulster canal has only been opened towards Fermanagh, an Ulster final venue really needs to facilitate Tyrone, Armagh and Down.

I was only winding.

[armaghniac]

I was only winding.

Me too.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

What is it with the parking do people want to park their car at the front gate or something??? There are any number of places to park if you are prepared to walk a little with places like Boucher and Kings hall less than a mile away. Go to most of the top grounds in England and I guarantee you if you want to take your car to the ground then be prepared to walk a little. I think this could work and as for the residents I think they are being completely unrealistic looking at the plans I cant think of any other 40000 stadium that looks so low and yet they are worried by its height!

[Maguire01]

All games at neutral venues? Are you having a laugh? Just watch the attendance plummet.

The highest attendances have been at neutral venues.

The attendance at Casement last week wasn't a great advertisement for home venues or the location of the uber stadium. In Belfast even the players are not interested in football.

Have you evidence that there are bigger crowds at neutral venues? Sunday's game is hardly a great example, but would you have had a bigger crowd if the game had been in Armagh?

[Maguire01]

Guys one advantage Casement has over Clones is the availability of park and ride, successfully used for Tennants Vital, Stormont Concerts and other venues. The Stadium looks amazing... give it a chance.

That's not really an advantage - you can set up a park and ride very easily - a field and a few busses is all you need, so it could be adopted for any GAA ground. Although I'm not sure park and ride is as appealing to a GAA crowd as a concert crowd anyway.

[BennyHarp]

Guys one advantage Casement has over Clones is the availability of park and ride, successfully used for Tennants Vital, Stormont Concerts and other venues. The Stadium looks amazing... give it a chance.

That's not really an advantage - you can set up a park and ride very easily - a field and a few busses is all you need, so it could be adopted for any GAA ground. Although I'm not sure park and ride is as appealing to a GAA crowd as a concert crowd anyway.

I mind going to games in the late 80s and early 90s at Clones, parking up at the Fermanagh border and utilising the very effective park and ride services provided by a few blokes packing 12 people into an oul clapped out Ford Escort, raking back and forward to the ground at about 80mph. I'm not 100% sure if they'd done their risk assessments though!

[Leo]

Whiter than white white elephant.
Maybe one game a year with about 30,000. Maybe.
Rock concerts for the rest - locally opposed.
A monument to some ego in a dread suburban mishmash.
Ego project funded by our taxes.

Does any body in their right mind think that rock concerts will be held in an area where you are not going to have at least 50% of your market excluded because of location. It is one thing building this white elephant but it is the supporters and the clubs that will have to foot the bill for its long term upkeep.

[armaghniac]

Have you evidence that there are bigger crowds at neutral venues?

Armagh v Tyrone had 31,000 twice in a first round in Clones, when was the last time there was such a crowd at a first round game?

[Maguire01]

Have you evidence that there are bigger crowds at neutral venues?

Armagh v Tyrone had 31,000 twice in a first round in Clones, when was the last time there was such a crowd at a first round game?

That's the exception rather than the rule. And we don't know how many would have gone to Omagh or Armagh if they were big enough.