Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[teaminamillion]

Teaminamillion, stop giving mickey a hard time. Apparently its the 'backroom team' that has us playing shite negative football.

maybe Mickey should freshen up the backroom team with a can of "fabreze summer fresh" in the dressing room.

[BennyHarp]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

[BennyHarp]

Teaminamillion, stop giving mickey a hard time. Apparently its the 'backroom team' that has us playing shite negative football.

maybe Mickey should freshen up the backroom team with a can of "fabreze summer fresh" in the dressing room.

Very efficient switching of profiles - well done lad!   

[sensethetone]

Will Ronan McNamee's hand injury be healed up for the championship?

[teaminamillion]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

listen I'm not naive to think open expansive football is the way to go but unfortunately because of Mickeys insistence on playing certain players like his nephew Peter who I do believe is overrated and who needs a defensive system as protection to tailor his game therefore Mickey  has to play a defensive game all the time to protect his nephew! That's not been personal that's been real ffs!

[skeog]

Ulster not taking any chances with Healy Park for U21 final rain forecast for Monday.

[BennyHarp]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

listen I'm not naive to think open expansive football is the way to go but unfortunately because of Mickeys insistence on playing certain players like his nephew Peter who I do believe is overrated and who needs a defensive system as protection to tailor his game therefore Mickey  has to play a defensive game all the time to protect his nephew! That's not been personal that's been real ffs!

Seriously, do you think Peter Harte is not worthy of his place on the Tyrone team?

[redhandefender]

Is there a moderator on here can shut this tube with 2 profiles down, used to enjoy looking in on this page but this is cat! Give ye a headache and I can't even hear him! God help his primary school class in derry

[teaminamillion]

Is there a moderator on here can shut this tube with 2 profiles down, used to enjoy looking in on this page but this is cat! Give ye a headache and I can't even hear him! God help his primary school class in derry

you don't like this thread well go and watch some animal porn.

[teaminamillion]

No the buck stops with Mickey but he has delivered it all before. If what I'm hearing is correct the disastrous ultra defensive system is from the back room team. Are you not hearing that? I also would have grave concerns over the natural skill development of the development squads over the years. Questions need to be asked? What were they trying to identify and develop. Freetakers natural forwards, good man markers and midfielders. It is becoming that development was a misnomer. I presume the academy system is promoting different values and not creating robots.

there are 150 coaches and managers in Tyrone could do what Harte does if not better. The players it seems are frustrated, depressed and ultimately lacking inspiration. What Mickey Harte calls a talented footballer and what most people would call a talented footballer is open for debate. Player selection under him has been always erratic. Think back to the last time Tyrone beat Dublin in Croke park which was only a few years ago, Plunkett Kane scored three magnificent long range points. What happened to that player? There is far too much sentimental value attached to Harte in Tyrone. He should have went in 2010 when at the time you just knew it was the end of an era. Kerry and Dublin don't be long changing it up and have to say their backroom teams have an unbelievable wealth of experience compared to Mickey Hartes "jobs for the boys" policy.

No he didn't, he scored two points. One of which would be classified as a magnificent long range point. So you have one misinformed fact about this player and are using it as another swipe. There could be a million and one reasons why Plunkett didn't make it in the end. Player development is a lot more complicated that just, oh, well he kicked 3 points (when he actually kicked two) one day so he should be in the squad.

oh sorry two points but one was a magnificent long range winner against the dubs which can't be snuffed at! We won't fall out over one point Benny. You seem to me missing the point I'm trying to make, in that Mickey Harte should stop using our beloved Tyrone as his celebrity platform.

It's about taking one game or one incident and using it as proof that Mickey isn't developing players. It's the rose tinted approach that keeps popping up here regarding Raymond Mulgrew, Kyle Coney etc. People refer to Coney v Cork, great performance as it was, he never really did it consistently over 3 or 4 years that he was on the panel. People like yourself adding little untruths to your rose tinted glasses analysis is unhelpful too and no doubt you've regaled the Kane kicked 3 magnificent points v Dublin story many times to your mates in your disgust at him not still being on the panel, but the truth is that he did fairly well that day but like Coney didn't really kick on.

Our recent position has got supporters in a bit of a mix of emotions. Some, like yourself,  feel that due to our success in the 2000s that we have a right to win All Irelands every year and anything else is a failure, playing an open and expansive style of football which is fair enough. Others look at past AI champions like Armagh, Meath, Galway, Cork, Derry, Down etc and think we have been doing well in recent years to remain competitive when you see what can happen if your eye is taken off the ball. I've had plenty of debates with my mates about the way we play and the selection policy etc and maybe we do need a new voice at the end of this year but what I have been objecting to mainly on here is the level of personal abuse thrown at Mickey by a few (maybe all the same) people which is just beyond football and stinks of personal agendas.

listen I'm not naive to think open expansive football is the way to go but unfortunately because of Mickeys insistence on playing certain players like his nephew Peter who I do believe is overrated and who needs a defensive system as protection to tailor his game therefore Mickey  has to play a defensive game all the time to protect his nephew! That's not been personal that's been real ffs!

Seriously, do you think Peter Harte is not worthy of his place on the Tyrone team?

Peter Harte is part of the slow laborious problem Benny. What he get on the Dublin or Kerry team never ever. Other lads need their chance. Better players.

[southtyronegael]

Is there a moderator on here can shut this tube with 2 profiles down, used to enjoy looking in on this page but this is cat! Give ye a headache and I can't even hear him! God help his primary school class in derry

ah yeah anyone that doesn't agree with mickey should have their account closed.worse than north Korea with the Irish news as state media.

[omagh_gael]

You spout some shite, listen to fans in other counties, look at Petey's scoring return and say he wouldn't make their team? Bullshit. You say Petey plays a slow laborious game? Total horse shit! He's ones of our fasted moving playersm always is moving the ball at pace or going for ball in places you wouldn't put your boot. He's been that way since I first saw him at 16 years of age. I've said it before and I'll say it again; your analysis of Tyrone at the minute is clearly jaundiced by a personal issue and your lack of alternative ideas and pure dung lies (e.g. Plunket Kane story) shows you up for a total tube. 

[Fuzzman]

Anyway, on another note.

Do people think we've been getting a lot of silly black cards this year in the league?
How many did Sludden get? He looked like he was playing great stuff in the Dublin game but then after that he got injured and I don't think he played a full game after that?
Is it the way they're tackling or what?

[teaminamillion]

You spout some shite, listen to fans in other counties, look at Petey's scoring return and say he wouldn't make their team? Bullshit. You say Petey plays a slow laborious game? Total horse shit! He's ones of our fasted moving playersm always is moving the ball at pace or going for ball in places you wouldn't put your boot. He's been that way since I first saw him at 16 years of age. I've said it before and I'll say it again; your analysis of Tyrone at the minute is clearly jaundiced by a personal issue and your lack of alternative ideas and pure dung lies (e.g. Plunket Kane story) shows you up for a total tube. 

2 points 3 points ur a f**king idiot if that's all you have on me. Your talking Peter Harte up like he's running through defences for fun! Who's talking horseshit I wonder? Lol. Also I would care to wonder who is the person with the multiple accounts? The word "tube" is been used a lot. That word Gerry Adams called someone last week! Can you not use some other term instead of copying someone else you two brain celled sheep!baa baa baa

[teaminamillion]

Anyway, on another note.

Do people think we've been getting a lot of silly black cards this year in the league?
How many did Sludden get? He looked like he was playing great stuff in the Dublin game but then after that he got injured and I don't think he played a full game after that?
Is it the way they're tackling or what?

Players depression manifests' itself on the pitch by poor discipline ie black cards and red cards. How depressing! Harte out.