Official Cavan GAA Thread

tommysmith · June 09, 2014, 03:37:51 PM

Quote from: rodney trotter on June 09, 2014, 03:26:05 PM
Why did Aaron Kernan not start for Armagh , he wasn't fully fit to start neither was Mackey... Mackey has only trained a couple of times since the League final.

I'm not concerned about Aaon Kernan.

If someone is fit to come on they are fit to start, he did ok in the second half

rodney trotter · June 09, 2014, 05:02:38 PM

He did ok, still was sluggish and clearly not fully fit

mylestheslasher · June 09, 2014, 10:02:33 PM

Tommy. We have been playing this style of football from U21 to senior for 5 years now and it has served us fairly well. I am not saying I particularly like it but it has been effective to get us this far. I dont think it was our style of play that was our down fall rather our application of the style of play. For example, Armagh played the exact same way, probably even more defensive as they had two sweepers the whole match. However, Armagh applied the game plan much better. They were much more assertive moving forward, stronger running, more agressive in the tackle and just more up for it.

I think we cannot change much this season and we must keep faith with the tactics and go into the backdoor and try and get some momentum. Next year I do think we need to do some work on our forward play and perhaps a specialist forwards coach could help?

For me so much went wrong that it is hard to pin point what started it. I imagine Martin Dunne was probably going to float around the two ball winners inside and feed of them for the scores. When he couldnt start the game plan probably went out the window from the start. What was very poor was our kick out plans. The kicks were either terrible or the runs for the kick outs were easily blocked off. Gearoid looked laboured. Gunner is just not a midfielder. There was zero fight in that area and ultimately we conceded 80% possession in there. Mossy Corr might have knocked a few of them around the place. Very worrying how it all went in there. Credit to Rory Dunne and to McEnroe. They were under constant pressure and stood up and were counted. Jack Brady was very poor and kept bringing the ball into dead ends. When confronted with a blanked defense you need to spread the ball wide. None of our lads did this and indeed the ignored flanagan a few times when he made great over lapping runs. I think we need to freshen the team up for Westmeath. Assuming Dunne is out this is what I think we should do...

Farrelly (Gilsenan did well on shots but kick outs just not good enough)
Hayes
Dunne
McLoughlin
Moynagh
Clarke
Flanagan
Corr
G McKiernan
Argue
Mackey
Martin Reilly
Keating
O Connor
Damien Reilly - 3rd midfielder

Everyone of that team from half back up can kick a score (except for Clarke)

rodney trotter · June 09, 2014, 10:20:12 PM

The junior team played the Senior team last Sunday and Enda Reilly gave Hayes a bit of a roasting, that was probaly the reason he didn't start. He had been having a solid year.

Juniors play Louth in Dundalk on wedneday. Hopefully O Connor continues his good form and surely be in the reckoning for Westmeath. Westmeath is a local derby so that will have the players fired up after the disaster yesterday.

Itchy · June 10, 2014, 11:35:36 PM

That Hoganstand is full of the biggest morons I have ever come across. Sack the manager, play attacking football, play other players. All from one defeat. No one is happy but guess what, we are not invincible and in the toughest province we are likely to lose now and again. If you expect non stop wins follow the girls u14 team.

rodney trotter · June 10, 2014, 11:43:26 PM

They will be happy when the management goes so Jim Gavin can take over,

Westside · June 10, 2014, 11:56:05 PM

One defeat and we have people saying the entire optimism from 5 years of dominating U21 has been washed away.. It's crazy stuff. There are some absolute idiots out there.

rodney trotter · June 11, 2014, 12:24:10 AM

Armagh weren't even set up attacking,.flooded numbers back. They just used the ball better, Kevin Dyas made the difference at centre forward, winning breaks setting up attack.

Cavan base their game on counter attack, Mackey was an obious loss. Hopefully he will be back to fitness for Westmeath.
Paul O Connor probaly wasn't used so he can build up his confidence with the Junior side, hopefully they can reach another Leinster final.

comeysfield · June 11, 2014, 10:57:42 AM

All ACFL (promotion) games called off this weekend. So sounds like we are either Mentally of Physically brusied

mylestheslasher · June 11, 2014, 11:07:04 AM

Hoganstand is a ridiculous site which seems to have attracted the biggest imbeciles in Cavan to post on it. The fact that the chief imbecile runs moderates the forum is the biggest problem. Its a joke what is been written over there. In one game Hyland has gone from our must successful manager to a clueless.

I assume the fool who runs the site is the same guy posting the motivational stuff on there facebook page? He'd be better off deleting half the threads over there.

Blue in hope · June 11, 2014, 11:26:20 AM

I think Clarke needs to go I would like to see Tinnelly given a chance at half back. He has great speed. When Givney came on the scene a few years ago it was because of his goal scoring feats. I would like to see him in full forward line for Westmeath with Keating and O Connor. Those three would be able to win their own ball but they would need to improve their movement. I do not think Mossy is up to county standard and would put argue in midfield and have Niall McDermott back in. I thought it was strange to take him off last Sunday. He wasn't the worst on the field by a long shot and with free taker Dunne out and Keating not kicking well he is our only free taker left.

Farrelly (Gilsenan did well on shots but kick outs just not good enough)
Hayes
Dunne
McLoughlin
Moynagh > Tinnelly
Clarke > Moynagh
Flanagan
Corr >>>> Argue
G McKiernan
Argue >>>>Mc Dermott
Mackey
Martin Reilly
Keating
O Connor
Damien Reilly - >>>> Givney

mylestheslasher · June 11, 2014, 03:01:49 PM

Jaysus lad McDermott was shocking. He is a good lad but was terrible and was turned over 4/5 times on his own. Kicked some brutal ball away too.

Duckquay · June 11, 2014, 08:15:39 PM

Quote from: comeysfield on June 11, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
All ACFL (promotion) games called off this weekend. So sounds like we are either Mentally of Physically brusied

An absolute joke that this is happening. Our game was down for Sunday, changed to Saturday, changed to Friday and now postponed because of the wishes of the county players.

Itchy · June 11, 2014, 10:40:06 PM

Juniors easily beat Louth tonight to make Leinster final. Tinnelly got 3 points from half back. Hard to know the standard but surely Hyland should consider some of these lads to freshen up the senior team.

rodney trotter · June 11, 2014, 11:02:06 PM

Tinnelly was half forward not half back, played there against Wexford too. Thats where he plays for the club.

CAVAN: James Farrelly; Fergal Reilly, James Morris 0-1, Damien Barkey; Niall Smith, Barry Doyle, Conor Moynagh; Packie Leddy 0-1, Liam Buchanan 0-3; Philip Tinnelly 0-4, Chris Conroy, Michael Lyng, Paul O'Connor 0-1, David Hyland 0-2, Enda Reilly 0-4. Subs: Thomas Moore 0-1 for P O'Connor, Paul Smith for N Smith, Brian Shankey for L Buchanan, Niall Clerkin for D Barkey, Enda Hession for E Reilly, G Smith for J Morris

Hoganstand has a few of the players scores wrong above

Play Longford in the final 25th Pearse PK