McKenna Cup 2024

[Over the Bar]

you'd think MH had done something to annoy you sout armagh ones pint!

[reddgnhand]

yeah, day later, harte's still a p***k.

A few extra sugars in your tea required pint. It might sweeten you up a bit.

[Tyrones own]

yeah, day later, harte's still a p***k.

      Your intellectual ability knows no bounds!

[Fuzzman]

As I said back at the time when he first played the lads.

Most people would agree (even ye biased fans) that Tyrone are in with a good chance of an AI this year.

If you were a young player coming into the squad and you knew that this could be your ONLY chance of winning an AI medal as the main core of the team may have reached their peak now,

Would you Opt to play for your UNI and just maybe win a sigerson but sit in the stand on AI final day.

Of course Mickey Harte and the players involved made a selfish decision but at the end of the year how do you judge a manager and a team. Hardly by some pre-season cup goodwill.

[tyroneman]

main core of the team may have reached their peak now

Mugsy, SON, Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan are all young enough and have at least another 3-5 years high level football in them.

Only Dooher and Cavlan are pushing close to 30

[Aristotle Flynn]

If Tyrone are found quilty of playing illegal players at the Ulster Council meeting tomorrow night, they will be thrown out of the McKenna Cup. The team manager, selectors and County Secretary can also be suspended for up to 52 weeks. The 2 players involved will also face long suspensions. There is no limit to the fine that can be imposed.
A heavey price to pay for the McKenna Cup?

http://www.gaa.ie/files/pdf/og_part_1_2007.pdf

Here's a link to a copy of the rules for Mickey.

[never kickt a ball]

Harte says no rules were broken
20 February 2007
Tyrone football boss Mickey Harte has remained defiant in the face of reports that the Ulster Council is considering awarding the McKenna Cup to defeated finalists Donegal.
The O'Neill County beat Donegal in last weekend's decider in Omagh but the decision to play two college players may see the Ulster Council rule that Tyrone infringed the rules of the competition.
"I can't see how they could justify taking the McKenna Cup away from us," the Tyrone boss commented.
"I don't understand how, if they didn't play with their colleges, they couldn't be eligible to play for Tyrone. They didn't play for their colleges because they wanted to play for their county.
"Just because they are studying at an institute it doesn't mean they should have to play with them. What if they didn't want to play?
"We're losing sight of something here. The McKenna Cup is an intercounty competition. The colleges are visitors and visitors don't dictate the rules."
http://www.hoganstand.com/Tyrone/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=73056

In 2004 the Ulster Council allowed Sean Cavanagh and Joe McMahon to play for Tyrone in later rounds after their Colleges (who they had played for) were knocked out. A Derry player even played for both Derry and his College. A rule was later introduced that players would no longer be able to play for both. Neither of these guys have played for both in this competition. They have only played for Tyrone. If Donegal had of used some of their players from Sligo IT/DCU etc in the McKenna Cup final would they be liable for the same infringement? (Granted they didn't as Sligo It were playing in their respective final) 

[never kickt a ball]

"We have a lot of work to do,'' says McIver
20 February 2007
Donegal team-manager Brian McIver pointed to Kevin Hughes's red card as a galvanising factor for the Tyrone success in the Dr. McKenna Cup final at Healy Park, Omagh.
"At the stage where Kevin Hughes was sent off we were still very much in the game. Hughes departed from the scene and then you would have thought they had the extra-man in the last 15 to 20 minutes of the match. But we have to learn from that.
"We still have a lot of work to do in terms of our forward play. We had no direction or cohesion in the opening half, when there was a plentiful supply of ball going into the attack. I can't blame the defence or midfield for the opening half. But once we went behind coming up to the half-time break in a match we were dominating, we were always going to have an uphill battle.
"Losing a McKenna Cup final so early in the season is not a disaster. We can take some good points from this game, and hopefully learn from our mistakes, and put this to good use in the future,'' he concluded.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Donegal/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=73047

[Armagh4SamAgain]

Tipical Tyrone,always cheatin! Have u never herd of fairplay?? Even if offical rules werent broke theres rules of fairplay u no?? Tramps. Always draggin the GAA down.

[tyroneman]

Regardless of the moral rights and wrongs of the whole episode the past history would suggest that any decent barrister (wonder who hmmmmmm) would tear shreds in any argument the council try to put up.

The bottom line is the rules were not properly thought out in the first place and will have to be tightened next year.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Tipical Tyrone,always cheatin! Have u never herd of fairplay?? Even if offical rules werent broke theres rules of fairplay u no?? Tramps. Always draggin the GAA down.

Yeah, thanks for clearing that up. If I didn't know better I'd say the most plentiful fruit in the Orchard these days were the sourest of grapes!

[never kickt a ball]

Hear Canavan's looking to return to Tyrone but St Mary's, where he did his teacher training, won't let him. Any truth in this?

[Tyrones own]

 Na its only Armagh that may need to be taking back an o'l fella, sure you Armagh boys are well aware
that we in Tyrone have no end of talent coming through and therefore no need to be holding on to the past

[David McKeown]

"We're losing sight of something here. The McKenna Cup is an intercounty competition. The colleges are visitors and visitors don't dictate the rules."

I completely agree with MH here the colleges dont make the rules, but then again neither do the countys or their managers.  It's up to the provinical associations.  If the rules arent codified enough then Tyrone should receive no punishment, however if the rules are clear enough then they should recieve the same penalty that clubs and countys who have not had the success of Tyrone would recieve.  Failure to do this will result in future problems for the association.

[nrico2006]

That point is the exact same point I made about 2 weeks ago after the Derry debacle.  They should not be dictating when its an Inter-County competition.  The players are from the county and wanted to play for their county.  If they werent interested in playing for their universities, why should they?