McKenna Cup 2024

[GrandMasterFlash]

Am I right in saying that Armagh's scoring average actually went down after their 3 point win tonight. Before the game it was 43/28= 1.714 and afterwards it was 61/42=1.45? Seems a strange method to use to decide placings.

I disagree, scoring average is probably the best decision method as in considers both your attacking (for) and defensive strengths (against).

does scoring average not encourage defensive play?

based on my maths, you are better off winning low scoring matches than high scoring matches!

e.g. For 10 points
against 5 points
Average = 2

To get an average of 2 with a high scoring game would mean you have to win by a bigger margin to keep the same average.
e.g. if you scored 30 points, you would have to win the game by 15 points to get an average of 2.

Personally, I don't see the logic in using averages instead of scoring difference.

Am I missing something?

Correct, if you win every game by 0.2 to 0.1 you would have an average of 2.0 even though you only have a points difference of +3.  Also is it possible to calculate an average if you keep the other team scoreless?

Agreed lads - good points..

[tyroneman]

Turgid game in Clones v Fermanagh.

Forwards had very little space on either side, Tyrone just about deserved the win but credit to Fermanagh, they started brightly and with some better shooting could have made this much more uncomfortable.

Sludden and mcCurry best for Tyrone. McNulty did ok but tends to charge down blind alleys at times into 4 or 5 men. Sometimes you get the free from that, sometimes not.

Big Quigley was impressive stroking the ball over off the ground from 45+, looked like he put no effort into the kicks but they just glided over. 

Fermanagh tackling and disposession was excellent. Turned Tyrone over on numerous occasions.

McShane wasnt great in the FF role but there will be better days ahead for him I'm sure. McKenna was ok, nothing spectacular.

Big Sean had a mare in the 10min he was on. Lost possession several times and got himself booked. Didn't come back out for second half, although Colm (who Sean replaced) did, do must have been a blood sub.

Brennan worked hard and there is definitely a good player there.

Was there much really learned from the Tyrone side? Not really.

[omagh_gael]

Highlights of tyrone v fermanagh

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/38699568

[FermGael]

I have no idea where they got that fella Mooney from in Cavan but he ruined that game.
Far to fussy , didn't let the game flow and made some very questionable calls throughout the game.

Decent enough game but Fermanagh kicked too many wides.  We made poor decisioms at crucial times and gave the ball away far too easily.  The only positive we can take from it is that we didn't roll over but we have to start stepping up against the better teams. Too easy to take a morale victory.
Though Sludden at chf was excellent as was P Harte.

I wonder what idiot decided a Derry V Tyrone final should be fixed for Newry on a Saturday night ?

[BennyCake]

It's up to you now Derry, to stop the "Dicks for Six".

[Throw ball]

I have no idea where they got that fella Mooney from in Cavan but he ruined that game.
Far to fussy , didn't let the game flow and made some very questionable calls throughout the game.

Decent enough game but Fermanagh kicked too many wides.  We made poor decisioms at crucial times and gave the ball away far too easily.  The only positive we can take from it is that we didn't roll over but we have to start stepping up against the better teams. Too easy to take a morale victory.
Though Sludden at chf was excellent as was P Harte.

I wonder what idiot decided a Derry V Tyrone final should be fixed for Newry on a Saturday night ?

Armagh unavailable due to club All Ireland semi finals on Sunday.

[BennyCake]

Why didn't they flip a coin, Owenbeg or Omagh? Stupid bringing people from the likes of Dungiven to Newry on a winter evening.

[theticklemister]

Why didn't they flip a coin, Owenbeg or Omagh? Stupid bringing people from the likes of Dungiven to Newry on a winter evening.

We should all just meet on the Sperrins and knock the fcuk out of each other. Whoever bring homes the most Tyrone scalps is the winner

[redhandefender]

Why didn't they flip a coin, Owenbeg or Omagh? Stupid bringing people from the likes of Dungiven to Newry on a winter evening.

We should all just meet on the Sperrins and knock the fcuk out of each other. Whoever bring homes the most Tyrone scalps is the winner

lol

[skeog]

Agree the venue is a disgrace not be to many at it imo.

[Ty4Sam]

Ballybofey another option, unreal its in Newry. Ulster Convention on in Burren on Saturday so it's being held locally so the 'suits' don't have to travel! Unbelievable!

[ONeill]

Should be held in Ballinderry.

[theticklemister]

Ballybofey another option, unreal its in Newry. Ulster Convention on in Burren on Saturday so it's being held locally so the 'suits' don't have to travel! Unbelievable!

There u go

[StGallsGAA]

Ballybofey another option, unreal its in Newry. Ulster Convention on in Burren on Saturday so it's being held locally so the 'suits' don't have to travel! Unbelievable!

Ballybofey would be handy enough in January alright....not!   

[theticklemister]

Ballybofey another option, unreal its in Newry. Ulster Convention on in Burren on Saturday so it's being held locally so the 'suits' don't have to travel! Unbelievable!

Ballybofey would be handy enough in January alright....not!

I don't think you'd have to worry about it.................................