McKenna Cup 2024

[TY14ED]

Those grapes are sour in south Ulster. Considering they're so regular, You'd think you would take your beatings and slide on with your tail between your legs.

Don't think it is sour grapes. the behaviour of Tyrone supporters can be very embarrassing. Don't really win with an humility.

Don't think this a very fair comment & it's not alone on here- but like the majority of supporters from every county we can be gracious in both victory & defeat. Yes there are always a few plonkers who step across the line but this is everywhere, not just in the GAA but in society. What I don't like is when a few rumblings about Tyrone supporters behaviour becomes common practice for posters online, then the journos pick up on it & then becomes the stereotype. Just like the puke football comment grew legs & the rep Tyrone have for diving. These comments, if we are realistic could have been applied to any county at a point in time. Please, if Tyrone fans are out of line at games then have a word- usually this is all it takes. Or appeal to other Tyrone fans to have a word with them. Same if your from Monaghan or Derry or down or wherever.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

I've been to all the games this year and this was the only one that abuse like this was directed at the referee. He'd have got abuse from any county supporters for some of the decisions. Booking Stephen O'Neill for challenging for a high ball and then ignoring Tyrone players being clearly pulled to the ground was always going to cause anger. His decision to wave his arms about every time there was a clear foul to signal it wasn't a foul didn't help. The fact that the crowd reaction only happened in one of 5 McKenna Cup games might lead you to believe that there is a genuine issue with the referee.

[TY14ED]

Those grapes are sour in south Ulster. Considering they're so regular, You'd think you would take your beatings and slide on with your tail between your legs.

Don't think it is sour grapes. the behaviour of Tyrone supporters can be very embarrassing. Don't really win with an humility.

Don't think this a very fair comment & it's not alone on here- but like the majority of supporters from every county we can be gracious in both victory & defeat. Yes there are always a few plonkers who step across the line but this is everywhere, not just in the GAA but in society. What I don't like is when a few rumblings about Tyrone supporters behaviour becomes common practice for posters online, then the journos pick up on it & then becomes the stereotype. Just like the puke football comment grew legs & the rep Tyrone have for diving. These comments, if we are realistic could have been applied to any county at a point in time. Please, if Tyrone fans are out of line at games then have a word- usually this is all it takes. Or appeal to other Tyrone fans to have a word with them. Same if your from Monaghan or Derry or down or wherever.

Sorry Tommo not a direct attack at you or your comment just in response to a type of comment that's gathering pace on here

[rrhf]

In other words quit talking crap Tommo etc.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Who was the referee? David Coldrick?

[upmonaghansayswe]

Yes there are always a few plonkers who step across the line

A few? Do you really think Id go to the bother of posting over just a few plonkers?  Let me reiterate, the worst behaviour I've ever witnessed at a pre season match.

What I don't like is when a few rumblings about Tyrone supporters behaviour becomes common practice for posters online, then the journos pick up on it & then becomes the stereotype.

Well then blame lazy journalism or the actions of those who cant have a bitta manners at a game.

Please, if Tyrone fans are out of line at games then have a word- usually this is all it takes. Or appeal to other Tyrone fans to have a word with them. Same if your from Monaghan or Derry or down or wherever.

Well then here is my appeal to other Tyrone fans. Do you think they would have listened to a "sour grape" Monaghan fan like me?.

He'd have got abuse from any county supporters for some of the decisions. Booking Stephen O'Neill for challenging for a high ball and then ignoring Tyrone players being clearly pulled to the ground was always going to cause anger. His decision to wave his arms about every time there was a clear foul to signal it wasn't a foul didn't help. The fact that the crowd reaction only happened in one of 5 McKenna Cup games might lead you to believe that there is a genuine issue with the referee.

As I said, I can understand some of the anger (not abuse) in the 1st half, like the incident you have referred too. It was the persistent abuse when 9 points up and coasting against 14 men that comes under a total different category.

[charlie linkbox]

Those grapes are sour in south Ulster. Considering they're so regular, You'd think you would take your beatings and slide on with your tail between your legs.

Ah yes....... the standard predictable response of the dim-witted!!!

[Fuzzman]

Was chatting to a Cork lad who sits next to me in work and he was at the Dublin v Kildare final last weekend
He said the language out of mothers and children to the referee was just unreal.

I think in Ulster though its only confined to Tyrone fans. They are the worst. I've never heard a Monaghan or Armagh fan shout any abuse at the ref or other players.

[EC Unique]

So. We can now add Monaghan to the list. Armagh, Derry and now Monaghan. All getting sick of beatings from Tyrone.

[omagh_gael]

So. We can now add Monaghan to the list. Armagh, Derry and now Monaghan. All getting sick of beatings from Tyrone.

Perhaps we should introduce a 'go easy' policy for next years McKenna cup in order to promote positive inter-county relationships. These arse whoopings can't be good for their self-esteem.

[upmonaghansayswe]

Was chatting to a Cork lad who sits next to me in work and he was at the Dublin v Kildare final last weekend
He said the language out of mothers and children to the referee was just unreal.

I think in Ulster though its only confined to Tyrone fans. They are the worst. I've never heard a Monaghan or Armagh fan shout any abuse at the ref or other players.

Missing the point. Dublin Kildare went to extra time. Probably a league like atmosphere at it, which comes with higher emotions that can lead to that sorta language. I'm not justifying it but theres no way of eliminating it completely. Our game on the other hand was finished after 40 minutes and the attitude in the stand never changed. The supporters got a kick from giving him abuse. Shifting the focus onto other counties when you cant defend your own isn't the approach you should be taking.

[Fuzzman]

upmonaghansayswe I don't know how old you are but I've been going to matches for years and reading what fans have to say on here for years and I've heard loads give out about Tyrone fans but I've also heard loads praise Tyrone fans and the whole hospitality feeling of when a team comes to Omagh for a league game.

There will ALWAYS be assholes who have that sort of personality and will complain and whinge about everything no matter what.
There are also loads of very well spoken fans who even in times of tension, like in the AI final of 2003 when I was sat next to loads of Armagh fans, I was amazed who well behaved they were.
Now I've also sampled loads of arrogant loud mouthed Armagh fans like back in 2002 when I arrived back from Aus and went to Croker to support Armagh in the semi.
A few lads asked me where I was from and when I said Tyrone they told me where to go and they don't need my sort supporting them.

So whilst you had a bad experience at the game last week and by the sounds of it are well justified in calling those fans whatever names. Do you really think that sums up the majority of Tyrone fans? Do you really think most of us are like that and we are constantly fighting and arguing all the time? If you do then you're just being biased and unreasonable

The reason I mention other counties is there are assholes in all counties who do the same
Back when we beat Wexford in 2008 in the semi, there was a woman with her young family and husband behind me. The things that she called the Ref that day was just unbelieveable. For the first time in my life I actually got up and moved away it was that bad. My point is every county has people like that including your own Monaghan

[upmonaghansayswe]

but I've also heard loads praise Tyrone fans and the whole hospitality feeling of when a team comes to Omagh for a league game.

Totally agree. We were up in Omagh for the last league game last year and it was the best match day experience all year. Other counties should take a leaf outta the Tyrone book on that one. (I remember some dodgy looking Easter Bunny at HT!)

AI final of 2003

arrogant loud mouthed Armagh fans like back in 2002

Back when we beat Wexford in 2008 in the semi,

THIS is my point. All those where big games where the bandwaggoners can come along can tarnish the good name of the reasonable fan. The McKenna Cup only attracts the "reasonable" GAA fan, so to hear such abuse from so many, for an entire game in January is the worrying part.

Do you really think that sums up the majority of Tyrone fans? Do you really think most of us are like that and we are constantly fighting and arguing all the time? If you do then you're just being biased and unreasonable

No I dont. But again, percentage wise, Ive never witnessed so many act the way they did last Saturday night when youse had us bate out the gate.

every county has people like that including your own Monaghan

You`re right and I've acknowledged that already.

upmonaghansayswe I don't know how old you are

Old enough

[God14]

I accept your comments 'upmonaghansayswe' & unfortunately, like all counties, we do indeed have a nasty element amongst our hard core support.

However I'd like to point out that this particular referee has history with Tyrone. He's a fairly young & inexperiened ref - however he getting bigger & bigger games this past couple of years ~ firstly McRory Finals there about 2yrs ago, and now onto the intercounty stage

In particular - he effectively dediced the outcome of the Ulster U21 final last year, which I attented. His performance that night was a truely shocking performance of refereeing.

Indeed he needed an escort to get out of McHale park in Mayo last year, as he ballsed that match up as well. Conor Mortimor had plenty to say about him on twitter.

And guess what - he's down to referee Tyrone V Down on Saturday night.

Fair enough, I cant comment on any of the above.

I can comment on the above, it's a load of empty vessel crap 
A Tyrone defender bear hugs a Cavan forward in the penalty area and the ref awards the stonewall penalty.

Fortunately I listened to the Mon vTyrone game on Northern Sound who are savvy enough to protect the listeners from the sound of rattling of the empty Tyrone vessels, with some heavy duty sound insulation. Kept the pain to tolerable levels.

Isnt it amazing how 'main steet' is able to judge a referee's performance from the Radio. I attended the game. BC made a big call in the very first minute of the game awarding a penalty. At the time it looked harsh, however with the benefit of TV replays on reflection he got that particular call absolutely spot on.
What 'main street' doesnt elaborate on (because he wasnt there) was the blatant bias against Tyrone for the rest of the sixty minutes. Cavan repeatedly benefited from soft free's from the Co. Derry whistler - whilst Tyrone at the other end got absolutely nothing. It was such a bizaare performance, that the only possible conclusion that could be drawn is bias.
Cavan won the match 1-10 til 0-10. The crowd at the match were "irate" at his performance, and alot of the Cavan lads present acknowledged the ref was biased. Which incidently 'upmonaghansayswe' agrees took place last Saturday night in the match v Monaghan.

Recent posts on this thread show the anti Tyrone bias that exists, particularily in Derry. We've had Derry football by the balls this past 15 years - this bias, jealousy & begrudgery is what they have fallen to.

The swearing & abuse at the referee cant be condoned in any circumstances however, and must end. How we actually achieve that is something i dont know. But Down might as well start +3points on Saturday night.

[charlie linkbox]

So. We can now add Monaghan to the list. Armagh, Derry and now Monaghan. All getting sick of beatings from Tyrone.

Perhaps we should introduce a 'go easy' policy for next years McKenna cup in order to promote positive inter-county relationships. These arse whoopings can't be good for their self-esteem.

No no. There's no need for that. A "have manners" policy will suffice.