Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[SaffronSports]

Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. Any word on who might replace him?

[Silver hill]

Who is leading Derry U20s this year? See Martin Boyle has stepped down and away to Loughmacrory.

I believe Chris Collins is u20 manager for 2024.

Dear god

Unbelievable

Jobs for the boys.
Tail is wagging the dog up there.
As a GAA employee is he even allowed to?

[Derry Optimist]

 As we wait on Glen, hopefully, to continue on their winning ways in the All - Ireland Club championship in the New Year, it will be interesting to see when new  u20 manager Chris Collins announces his panel for the forthcoming season.

 This is an age group where Derry have failed to realise their full potential  for the last five years. The unavailability of players who were on the Senior panel, injuries to some of the best players and the drop out of others were three  of the main reasons for this. Unfortunately, if most teams are to compete at the highest level, they always require a full hand to select from. This has not been the case with several Derry u20 panels.

On a wider drop out issue, does anyone know what happened to top class underage players like Aidan McCluskey, Iarlaith Donaghy and Eunan McElhennon? McCluskey, I felt, was a superb talent just like his older brother. Speaking of injuries one would hope that the  Downey cousins, Enda and Matthew, would have better luck in this area and be be fully fit for the Senior County panel for 2024.

[JoG2]

Who is leading Derry U20s this year? See Martin Boyle has stepped down and away to Loughmacrory.

I believe Chris Collins is u20 manager for 2024.

Dear god

Unbelievable

Jobs for the boys.
Tail is wagging the dog up there.
As a GAA employee is he even allowed to?

Many a county would want a tail like ours... Not too many would put their name forward for the u20s I'd imagine.

[Silver hill]

Who is leading Derry U20s this year? See Martin Boyle has stepped down and away to Loughmacrory.

I believe Chris Collins is u20 manager for 2024.

Dear god

Unbelievable

Jobs for the boys.
Tail is wagging the dog up there.
As a GAA employee is he even allowed to?

Many a county would want a tail like ours... Not too many would put their name forward for the u20s I'd imagine.

What does that statement even mean?
Are you suggesting that other counties could be envious of our CEO?

[JoG2]

Who is leading Derry U20s this year? See Martin Boyle has stepped down and away to Loughmacrory.

I believe Chris Collins is u20 manager for 2024.

Dear god

Unbelievable

Jobs for the boys.
Tail is wagging the dog up there.
As a GAA employee is he even allowed to?

Many a county would want a tail like ours... Not too many would put their name forward for the u20s I'd imagine.

What does that statement even mean?
Are you suggesting that other counties could be envious of our CEO?

Dig away, most think we're doing rightly these days.

[Rawhide]

JoG2 it is fast becoming a closed shop, the u20 position was not circulated to clubs. stitched up internally. McKeever walked a few weeks ago from the V chair because of the way things are being run. A puppet Chairman

[JoG2]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

[toby47]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

Chris Collins has been getting away with all sorts for years. An egotistical clown

[Cluborcountywhynotboth]

If your only metric is the performance of one or two of the county panels while throwing copious amounts of money at it then yes the CEO has done ok. However gaa in the county is bigger than that. What's going on up there is corruption and a dictatorship. This is a man whose last two jobs before being CEO was as an IT call centre handler and then as an IT manager for a hotel. Then as Chairperson he initiated a CEO position, with a very large salary, and drew up a job and person spec to suit himself and awarded himself the job. He has no prior experience in business or as a CEO. He has since run roughshod over Derry GAA doing as he pleases. We have seen shambles after shambles with 'restructures' of the club game, jobs for the boys for his mates (Collins), a large launch of a strategic plan which has not been implemented (although we are now getting a new one next year), a complete disregard for the will of the clubs, and treating Ladies and Camogie like rubbish even tho he is very happy to include them in funding applications to receive extra grants (I know LGFA and camogie are separate from GAA but he used them in grant applications for both the new back pitches and refurb of the old building with promises that they were to be for their use, and yet they are still being charged an arm and a leg for the use and being refused use in favour of others). Look at the latest issue around underage grading. He wants it to stay at odds, the clubs voted overwhelmingly for evens and he then produces a proposal that includes no grade between 11.5 and 14. One Monday past when the clubs put forward various arguments for an u12 or u12.5 grade they this was dismissed without even a vote or real discussion. A strong arm tactic to try and get his own way. He is out of control tbh and should be removed.

[Rawhide]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

The problem is that there was alot of work done behind the scenes when McKeever got the V Chair post. He put together a football committee (they were side-lined as they were holding certain people to account)that shaped the high performance aspect of the county teams. That was designed to bring continuity to our county teams regardless of who was in charge, the managers might change but the elite performance aspects would remain. That has been dismantled and you have Harte (who i hope continues to do well) coming in with his own backroom team. In other words we are going back to how our county teams were run 6 yrs ago and beyond. The long term effect of this approach will come home to roast in 8/10 yrs time if it is not remedied.

[Rawhide]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

Chris Collins has been getting away with all sorts for years. An egotistical clown

some truth in what you are saying, however he does deserve credit for the success of our development squads.

[toby47]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

Chris Collins has been getting away with all sorts for years. An egotistical clown

some truth in what you are saying, however he does deserve credit for the success of our development squads.

I'm not sure I agree with that

[Keyser soze]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

Chris Collins has been getting away with all sorts for years. An egotistical clown

some truth in what you are saying, however he does deserve credit for the success of our development squads.

I don't agree, been completely useless since he has been in this post. Anyway he is a beard for someone else in the U20 post imo.

[tbrick18]

I suppose they'll be various speed wobbles along the way, part and parcel of committees.. From the outside looking in, it's not so bad (performance wise)

The problem is that there was alot of work done behind the scenes when McKeever got the V Chair post. He put together a football committee (they were side-lined as they were holding certain people to account)that shaped the high performance aspect of the county teams. That was designed to bring continuity to our county teams regardless of who was in charge, the managers might change but the elite performance aspects would remain. That has been dismantled and you have Harte (who i hope continues to do well) coming in with his own backroom team. In other words we are going back to how our county teams were run 6 yrs ago and beyond. The long term effect of this approach will come home to roast in 8/10 yrs time if it is not remedied.

If true, that's concerning.
The structures in place must have been working when you see the success of minors and Seniors.
Why was the football committee dismantled? And by who?
You'd think we'd learn the lessons of the past in Derry at CB level and leave the egos at the door for the good of the county.
In my view, the CB were the single biggest reason we were in the doldrums for nearly 30 years. Now that we have something that's working, the CB are dismantling it? What is going on?

I'll caveat all of that with the fact I have zero knowledge of the structures or people now at CB level at all. I'm basing all of that on your post Rawhide.