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More to the point what's O'Kane sprouting this all in the papers and not let it be dealt internally between the County board and the clubs at the meeting. Good to know the pound signs for the paper come before been a Derry Supporter.

+ 10. Think his latest contribution will not even sit well with more mature journalists or with Irish News. Trying too hard. Getting too personal.

That's balls on both of your points. He is simply doing his job.

I'd agree with the 2 men above. You're talking about volunteers at the end of the day who give up their time for the county. To have inaccuracies about them and their procedures splashed all over the back pages of the IN doesn't sit well with me. It's tabloidesque, gossipy gutter press stuff.  This mornings article had a glaring untruth in it (if you're to take the CB at their word last night).

Call out the inaccuracies then.

Read the articles and then speak with your club delegate who was at the meeting last night. He / she will know

You are the man saying that the story had inaccuracies and untruths. Call them out.

Unlike the IN, I'll not be discussing the ins and outs of the meeting on a public forum. So again, ask you club delegate or anyone you know who was at the meeting, they'll tell you

The hypocrisy of that reply sums it all up.

Jo62, he called you out and you had no reply...why? Possibly because everything that was stated in o'k's article was correct.
The two main points concerning the meeting was the fact that due process wasn't followed which is indisputable as Barker asked Jonny Mcbride to run with Gallagher as his no.2 despite the fact that he clearly knew his name was still in the hat. Barker tried to defend his position at the meeting by insinuating that Mcbride had intimated earlier that he wanted to be a no.2. Mcbride had stated that he would have considered being no.2 to Malachy O'rourke but no one else. Whilst not incorrect, Barker was, at the very least, disingenuous in what he said. The second issue is Gallagher himself. Personally, wouldn't be for me; 3 different clubs and 2 different counties ( would have been 3 only Dublin told him where to go) spells complete mercenary for me. Above all that however, is the mistake made by previous chair in appointing a director of football with the power that goes with that. His record since appointment speaks for itself. He should resign. Derry need to urgently appoint a 5-6 man football committee to oversee coaching, structures and appointments. Finally, it was telling on the night that there was no representative from the Castledawson club there despite the fact that they were responsible apparently, for Gallaghers nomination. Call me a sceptic, but I would hazard a guess that this was cobbled together after Gallaghers approach, to make it look better.
Paddy crozier summed it up, where are Derry going with this appointment? Time will tell.

Castledawson are "responsible for" Gallagher's nomination!  Are clubs not allowed to nominate or did they commit a crime? If what you say is true then the IN article is even more inaccurate!!

Hopefully you're a little smarter than you're letting on! Just in case, I'll spell it out for you. Gallagher was approached but hadn't been nominated yet. County board officials were perfectly entitled to nominate themselves but knew it would be better looking if it came from a club after the concerns raised at the previous two meetings. A soft club was required. Mr Derry himself gets it sorted.
You're clutching at straws.

More to the point what's O'Kane sprouting this all in the papers and not let it be dealt internally between the County board and the clubs at the meeting. Good to know the pound signs for the paper come before been a Derry Supporter.

+ 10. Think his latest contribution will not even sit well with more mature journalists or with Irish News. Trying too hard. Getting too personal.

That's balls on both of your points. He is simply doing his job.

I'd agree with the 2 men above. You're talking about volunteers at the end of the day who give up their time for the county. To have inaccuracies about them and their procedures splashed all over the back pages of the IN doesn't sit well with me. It's tabloidesque, gossipy gutter press stuff.  This mornings article had a glaring untruth in it (if you're to take the CB at their word last night).

Call out the inaccuracies then.

Read the articles and then speak with your club delegate who was at the meeting last night. He / she will know

You are the man saying that the story had inaccuracies and untruths. Call them out.

Unlike the IN, I'll not be discussing the ins and outs of the meeting on a public forum. So again, ask you club delegate or anyone you know who was at the meeting, they'll tell you

The hypocrisy of that reply sums it all up.

Jo62, he called you out and you had no reply...why? Possibly because everything that was stated in o'k's article was correct.
The two main points concerning the meeting was the fact that due process wasn't followed which is indisputable as Barker asked Jonny Mcbride to run with Gallagher as his no.2 despite the fact that he clearly knew his name was still in the hat. Barker tried to defend his position at the meeting by insinuating that Mcbride had intimated earlier that he wanted to be a no.2. Mcbride had stated that he would have considered being no.2 to Malachy O'rourke but no one else. Whilst not incorrect, Barker was, at the very least, disingenuous in what he said. The second issue is Gallagher himself. Personally, wouldn't be for me; 3 different clubs and 2 different counties ( would have been 3 only Dublin told him where to go) spells complete mercenary for me. Above all that however, is the mistake made by previous chair in appointing a director of football with the power that goes with that. His record since appointment speaks for itself. He should resign. Derry need to urgently appoint a 5-6 man football committee to oversee coaching, structures and appointments. Finally, it was telling on the night that there was no representative from the Castledawson club there despite the fact that they were responsible apparently, for Gallaghers nomination. Call me a sceptic, but I would hazard a guess that this was cobbled together after Gallaghers approach, to make it look better.
Paddy crozier summed it up, where are Derry going with this appointment? Time will tell.

A few more facts. Our director of football actively canvassed a back room team for his son until it became apparent that the candidates weren't available. His son then pulled out. On Monday past, when Mcbride was still in the running, our vice chairman rang him to ask him would he run on the same ticket as Gallagher. What option did Mcbride have after that proposition? He had to pull out given the question and who it came from.

In what has been a fast paced development with Rory Gallagher can anyone clarify:

1) Clubs were asked to County Committee to discuss incoming management
2) Clubs were there asked to submit nominations - of which Johnny McB / Sean McG & Mickey D we're proposed.
3) Those names then became widely circulated via press
4) Clubs via Kieran McKeever sought to meet county board to discuss those names & general direction of the selection process - assuming not enthused with the above names???
5) A second meeting was held with clubs & a selection panel put in place to seek out candidates & at this point Rory Gallaghers name was mentioned & I assume met positively by those in attendance?
6) At some point Brian McIvor has offered the job to at least two of the 4 above names?
7) Once the original 3 get wind of the above via various media they each withdraw
Rory Gallagher is then "interviewed" earlier this week to be brought before the county committee at the beginning of next week

Is that essentially what's happened & if so can clubs who nominate individuals to attend these meetings on their behalf really have too much to saying giving adequate opportunity at the meetings to speak?

Also point of note was it 5 clubs out of the entire playing pool nominating anyone?

Kieran mckeever cried stop as the perception was that Donnelly was the incumbent and the co board wanted to close proceedings to prevent further nominations and complications for them. Rory Gallagher's name was not mentioned at the second meeting. As a delegate correctly pointed out, anyone tapped up by Mcivor was at an unfair advantage when it came to the interview process. That proved to be the case when all the other nominees pulled out. 

Malachy parked the bus v Derry in 08 but that was with limited resources in fermanagh. He didn't when he had better attacking options with Monaghan. That's the difference, Gallagher imposes his style irrespective of the playing pool at his disposal

U don't get it. It's not because he's an outsider. If it was the right outsider.... Malachy o'ro For example or Tony mcentee, then bring it on. But it's not, it's Rory Gallagher, doctor death as far as playing style is concerned.  And don't give me that nonsense about not caring how we win our next Ulster title, if it's that shite he played with fermanagh and Donegal. And before anyone says it's horses for courses and you cut you're cloth accordingly, he had the best panel of players at his disposal with Donegal and still chose to park the bus.

No

The allegation is that it happened in the team hotel and involved members of the extended management panel. That's when the the line is crossed.

Rawhide, the facts are that Muldoon and Bradley have not put their names forward for this role so your argument there is redundant . I'm dealing with the people who have been nominated by the clubs, and then the other two, who were nominated by Mcivor and Smith. I suppose it does boil down to your individual football philosophy and how you think the game should be played. Then you add in the ethos of our association and what we want representing us. Maybe I'm old school, but I would like to see this Derry team punch above their weight (like Monaghan) with players giving everything for the jersey with a manager who is actually of us. Sitting in Owenbeg looking down at Gallagher, playing 15 behind the ball and knowing he's bankrupting us into the bargain, no thanks.

Does Rory Gallagher really care about how Derry do.?will defeats cut him and keep him awake at night? I don't think so. Mcbride should get it because he's one of us, he wants it and most importantly, he's the most capable. Experience is irrelevant if the ability is there

rawhide, Jonny was involved with fermanagh along with Malachy o'rourke. He was successful with Galbally despite what you say. He's Derry to his core and will bring a level of integrity and professionalism. More importantly, as a people manager, he has a presence. It is utterly inconceivable that we are even thinking about taking in a mercenary that fermanagh cast adrift.

How does anyone get experience without getting the chance? I don't doubt Seán has the experience but Jonny would have excellent ideas on how the game is played, he would command respect and he would surround himself with the right people. Zero ego and would be taking the job for the right reasons. A very important decision for us.

Jonny Mcbride should get this gig give the 3 candidates that have been nominated. Although given sean Mcgoldrick's experience and knowledge of Derry football and his record of 2 championship with coleraine, he should be accommodated in Jonny's back room team, if that's possible.

Monaghan will never play in an All Ireland Final, they are just too much of a silly County, with silly fans who lose the run of themselves when they get some limited success.

There it is, and you wonder why tyrone are reviled throughout the country. Is a little grace in victory too much to expect. Perhaps not. Stay classy.

In a one point game, all decisions by the ref with be magnified by the losing team. That's always the way. However, as a neutral, I did think the ref yesterday was sorer on Monaghan and they lost out in the tight calls at crucial points in the game. Tyrone took the one goal chance they had and that's the difference. It won't be a popular viewpoint but in my opinion, when the game was in the melting point, I thought Beggan got a little carried away with his own hype. Instead of working the ball in to the inside forwards, he actually was going for the equaliser. I don't believe he was simply launching a Hail Mary to hughes. Only he will know for sure, but I think it was an attempted point from 60 yards. Very poor game management, as was the late attempt fromMcmanus over the shoulder when moving away from the goals. That aside, he's still the best forward in Ireland at present.