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What do you regard as a sacrifice?

I'm interested to know what difference being married makes to this also.

Well, apologies , I'm was working on an old traditional assumption regarding being married with kids. Appreciate that plenty of men are in relationships and have kids and are not married. The general point is still the same though, if a player missed his kid's play. That would be a sacrifice imo.

Travel. Career. Career a big one.

Travel is definitely something that suffers if you want to play county football for any sustained period.
It is  definitely something that is 'sacrificed'. Would agree with that.

Its interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.   

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion

Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion

If you've the talent and you're invited to play county, it's a lifestyle choice, not a sacrifice.
99% are young and unmarried. You've decided to go and train at an elite level with similarly talented individuals, instead of what... playing golf with your mates, going out pinting, lying on the sofa on the PlayStation? Those are not sacrafices.

And that lifestyle choice doesn't include a lot of sacrifices?

If you're married there are some things that you might miss out on that would merit being called a sacrifice. Possibly a p1 nativity play if you we training and had a kid that age.
As I said earlier, very few are married. I can't think of anything that would qualify as a sacrifice for a single fella. Possibly a promotion at work because you don't do overtime because of training? Though to counterbalance that, county players do benefit from getting roles ahead of non county players because of profile and door opening opportunities specifically because they're county players.

Its interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.   

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion

Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion

If you've the talent and you're invited to play county, it's a lifestyle choice, not a sacrifice.
99% are young and unmarried. You've decided to go and train at an elite level with similarly talented individuals, instead of what... playing golf with your mates, going out pinting, lying on the sofa on the PlayStation? Those are not sacrafices.

Isn't the stuff about the League/Championship structure more important than a team holiday? What is the actual reasons the clubs are angry about

Glenullin are annoyed because they won the last two intermediate championships but were omitted from senior due to the restructures.
Ballinderry and Coleraine; probably more to do with ego and arrogance about being a big club and too good for intermediate.
Same with Lavey and playing league 2.

Can anyone give some clarity on what happened at the meeting tonight? I hear a number of reps left furious but still cant figure out which clubs have been effected

It remains the same ie the decision made in Dec / Jan. 12 in senior champ / 14 in Div 1..?

Clubs arrived and were told that Croke Park had been consulted and a vote on the original vote had to be carried first with a 60% majority. Secret Vote was 25-21 against so that was the end of that. The county board block vote of 10-12 effectively means they can win any vote that they want.

I must say that it is great to see so many young people and not so young now attending Derry games. Last Sunday's performance was another thoroughly  enjoyable experience, despite the team not being more clinical  in putting away goal opportunities.However, their general team play and ability to support the man on the ball was first class.

 All of the team were good and as usual Conor Doherty, Padraig McGrogan, Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan stood out. I was particularly pleased that the phenomenal work rate of Niall Loughlin is at last being recognised. His ability to track back, tackle, dispossess opponents and assist selflessly his fellow forwards when they attack was really impressive.Likewise, Niall Toner who played equally well when he came on. The brightest light of all was Cormac Murphy who has the natural ability to win his own ball, break the tackle and then head directly goal wards, showing electrifying pace. His ability to score readily from such situations has really added anew and exciting dimension to his team. One must wonder why he was not selected during the last few years as he was on the minor county panel of 2017 but lost out playing minor in 2018 as the age limit was lowered that year.

If  all or some of the Glen players are absent for the Monaghan game and if Odhran Lynch, Gareth McKinless and Eoin McEvoy are not recovered, that would mean that Derry would be short  a possible six  of their regulars.It would be interesting to see which substitutes would take their places.

Personally I thought Shane Mcguigan has his poorest match for Derry in a long time. Went to ground far too easily. And don't understand why Loughlin (who was excellent) doesn't hit the 45s and frees from the left? He's a superb dead ball striker.
Murphy was a joy to watch with his direct running and non stop showing. I think he was on placement in Carlisle for a period which hindered him previously with Derry.

I thought scullion was nervous and doesn't look like a long term option as no.2. Jack Cassidy is untested at this level, has a booming kick out and is a natural footballer but a bit to go if he's going to go straight in to replace lynch in the short term.
 Niall Loughlin is a superb dead ball kicker so not sure what he's not hitting 45s and frees from the left.
Agree on clucker, needs to develop an end product on the end of all the good work he does. He gets into great positions with his pace.
Murphy was simply outstanding. A joy to see a forward looking to go direct. Scares the life out of defences. Mcfaul was good but needs to cut out the unnecessary ill discipline, cost us a couple of points today.
Tyrone's wides were horrendous, ok, derrys pressure was good on the shooters but at least 10 good point scoring chances were missed from decent positions.
Anyway, 4 points in the bag, pressure's off. Plenty to work on which is what you want.

Big swing there. Joke of a decision to reverse the penalty then how can the touch judge see any grounding for the French try.

Good man. If there'd been any dacency in Big Glass he'd a texted ye to tell ye he was in fact playin'

Extremely unlikely any conversation did take place. But if it did Glass seen right thru him so spun him one. Knew he couldn't hold his water, and was proved right.

Ah very good Redzone, I'm afraid I'm too long in the tooth to come onto a discussion board claiming conversations that didn't happen.
I can only rely what he told me at the time. With hindsight, it was very likely that if the 3 boys were travelling then they were more than likely going to play or else why bother.
Anyway, Conor had plenty on his mind by the looks of things, winning an all Ireland with his club, leading Derry out against the kingdom and then getting engaged. A busy lad but no better man for it.

Has big Conor Glass travelled down to Kerry??

Travelling, but not playing.

Stated as a matter of fact.
Can you explain why you came out with this post ?

Because that's what he told me when I was talking to him mid week in Maghera. Either a late change of heart or that was the company line adopted. All 3 did rightly considering the week they'd just had.

Well hope you learned a wee lesson then !

Sure did Jim Bob, nothing is set in stone in life and things can change day by day. Thank you.

Has big Conor Glass travelled down to Kerry??

Travelling, but not playing.

Stated as a matter of fact.
Can you explain why you came out with this post ?

Because that's what he told me when I was talking to him mid week in Maghera. Either a late change of heart or that was the company line adopted. All 3 did rightly considering the week they'd just had.

Has big Conor Glass travelled down to Kerry??

Travelling, but not playing.

[S Shivers (1-1)]

Declan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.

Seamus was some servant for Castledawson ,in the 84 county final he lined out for then and was still under 16 from memory

Yes NBE, Think he had just turned 15. John Somers denied him a certain goal with a brilliant save down to his right in the top goals at Greenlough. Dawson had a great side then, unlucky not to get a championship at that time. Mackle, Keenans, Mckees, backboned them from memory.

I want Oso opinion on the game  saying he had plenty to say before the Ulster final.

You didn't even go to the game.  Can you even comment on it weasel?  Could you see anything on TV?  Glad you remembered my name.  Honestly can't recall a single post you've made on the other hand.

Lovely bit of deflection there Oso....Bravo.

Check his views on the Antrim thread, they're even better 🤣🤣 the fog affected Kilmacud more and Doherty didn't really get that big a slap to the head as he went off with a sore knee 🤣🤣

Ah, another fan.  Your whole village is out looking for you.  He went off because of his knee you absolute clown. Did you even watch that part?

Here's a fact for you Oso, it's his ankle that is injured and the reason why he had to go off. The slap to the head meant he had no control of where he was placing his legs when he was felled. You can clearly see on the replays his leg buckling back underneath his body. But I forgot.. you know best on these things.

I will await confirmation of that if that's all right with you, because your "facts" are probably just made up. His knee buckled when I watched it back, he went down holding behind his knee and he looked like he couldn't put weight through his knee on the way off, not his ankle.

It wasn't anything to do with the contact to his head, he took a heavy hit mostly it his back/side but it wasn't focused on his head or he'd have gone down holding his head because he took the contact to his face and it merely looked worse in slow motion. He didn't even hold his face. To say he was felled because of a blow to his head is simply making things up. 

Dear me. 'It wasn't anything to do with the contact to his head...'
Do yourself a favour man, download the tG4 app and watch the game again. Incident is on 20 mins. The only think that hits Doherty is the point of Sheehan's elbow. Flush into his face. You must be the only person in the country who thinks otherwise. And you've the cheek to say he simulated it....so by your logic, he's faked it and decided he needs to see it out by taking himself out of an all ireland semi, 20 mins into it??? Is that really what you're saying?