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Am I right in saying some of the Fianna boys are playing on there 6th Senior Final? They might not be that easy beat?

If you include a replay in 2016 then I think yes the likes of Kane, Kerr, McNally and Toner are now on 6 finals since 2007.

Some service from those lads and you'll do well to find better more consistent club players over the last 10 years

On the panel question, I think the championship has shown what depth we have. You could literally take 10 out of the current squad, replace them with 10 not currently in it and it wouldn't take away from the overall strength.

What's wrong with Matthew Walsh?

Think he's in London, big job in the city

Does he feature for a club over there? Big job in the city. Fair play.

Think he's with Fulham Irish. He was in Dublin for a while before as well, played a bit for a club down there before returning to clarkes last year to help them to a championship.

Some game last night. What age is McCusker, 40? classy player

Paudie McNulty was best player on show. the man should really have an all ireland medal. that ship has sailed but you have to wonder what way his county career could have gone with a consistent run of games in the middle.

Conor definetly a loss Dan and Declan average be no loss in them leaving.Club be happy though.

Dan mcnulty average? Go get yourself looked about.

Excellent footballer at club level.  County a different animal though and its a pity he could never really get established at that level. If I were those guys, Id leave too, no point in being fodder playing in house games.

there are some of the players that start for Tyrone that are not excellent club footballers they are actually average club footballers. McNulty had the potential to bring something different to the Tyrone forward line its a shame he didnt get the chance. the managers have slipped up here I think.

Please let this be the end of the Dan McNulty debate. Harte and now F&B have both regarded him as not being good enough to warrant a place. Not everyone can make it at county level. IMO county footballers are now mostly of a similar build, speed and athleticism. I don't think Dan McNulty fits into that. Just the way it is. I'm sure clonoe people will be happy to have all 3 of them available for them.

Cavanagh is done as a starter but we do have major problems in midfield. If he would be willing to come back as a 15 minute option at the end to help close games out then he could contribute but I think management are better concerned looking to the future.

If there is a midfielder we should be looking at bringing in to the county setup then that is Paudie McNulty. Any word on why McNulty isn't involved, management decided to go with other options of did he turn down a recall?

Don't really know much regarding the rumours but Cavanagh was one of Harte's first names on the teamsheet up until he quit. Personally I think players expecting public proclamations of gratitude is a bit vain, I think there's a much better look when players go quietly. I actually don't recall James Horan coming out and saying much with regard all the Mayo retirements in the last few weeks. It looks like the usual slabberers like trailer coming out and spreading nonsense to push their agenda.

Cavanagh was a great servant to Tyrone over the years, an example of a player who really worked on his game and turned in from being a much maligned player who bore the brunt of fans frustrations to being one of Tyrone's key men and a real leader. I would say Cavanagh if anything should be very grateful to Harte who stuck by him during those early years when he was lambasted for picking him.

Is mcnulty not 28/29, married, young family, family chip shop business.  Not conducive to county football although the split season certainly makes things a bit easier but still an awful lot to commit to. I imagine he was at least invited to join/trial by the new management. Suppose county football isn't the be all and end all for everyone.

Need to concentrate on Kennedy and kilpatrick in midfield. Two men I think will improve with more exposure to county football. They're the best we've got anyway IMO

Niall Morgan doesn't operate in midfield for Edendork, I don't know where that has come from really. Maybe working on something tactical.

He would be playing a free sweeping role for them. Excellent kick passer obviously and at county level. But with the top teams operating now on a full pressing game really, is it a goer? Maybe just something they might think about chasing a game - pushing him outfield onto the last man or to free an outfield player.

Lads Morgan isn't going to be playing outfield for Tyrone, nor Benny Gallen for that matter. I'd say it was a case of making up the numbers. New keepers on trial in nets so these other two played outfield to make up the numbers or avoid playing trialists outside their normal positions which wouldn't have been fair on them. Wouldn't get too worked up over it. Not that I have any insight or anything, just assuming!

Can't argue with the new names added, each deserves a chance. Other names mentioned already had a pop and didn't make it and at this point in their careers, aren't going to improve things. These young lads deserve a crack at it and good luck to them.

Lads are you for real. A strength and conditioning coach for a county gaa team on that type of money, you need the heads examined!

Peter Donnelly left the tyrone set up as he asked for a pay rise and didn't get it. I don't think he was on huge money and an Ulster Academy coach wouldn't be huge money either. If you do a bit of research you'll see the likes of physios, S&C guys  etc in professional rugby can get around the £50-60k mark at elite level. You would therefore imagine that an academy coach commands a bit below that.

If tyrone county board or other counties were offering the kind of money some people on here are alleging then surely all the top rugby men would be queuing up to take the job on that salary!

monaghan were happy for him to work full time and be involved in their seniors for a few quid on the side. I imagine the new arrangement with tyrone is something similar and not the previous role he had which was looking after S&C for all county squads.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2020/09/09/news/is-conor-mckenna-the-only-missing-piece-for-tyrone--2060537/

Decent article, would be wise to maybe play down the return of McKenna considering.

He mentions that there are only two players from the 2013 minor side in the current squad - McShane was in that side too though.

McShane didn't start that day however.

Sean Fox (Ceapach); Colm Byrne (An Eaglais), Rhys Quinn (Cluain Eo), Cillian McCann (Fionntamhnach); Shea Hamill (Domhnach Mor), Christopher Morris (Gallbhaile), Padraig McGirr (Aireagal Chiarain), Ronan Nugent (Gallbhaile), Frank Burns (Cabhan a'Chaotainn), David Mulgrew (Ard Bo), Conor McKenna (An Eaglais), Ruairi McGlone (Achadh Lu), Lee Brennan (Tri Leac) Daire Gallagher  (Tri Leac), Stephen McGrath (Doire Lochain).

Always thought Ronan Nugent is a decent player who has probably deserved an FBD call up in recent years.

Maybe not too many from that squad made it to senior level but some very good footballers all the same who have served their clubs well since then

The 2 Westies down as favorites with PP. I thought betting would be much closer. Trillick 4/5 & Coalisland 11/8. Errigal 2/9 & Dungannon 7/2.
An East Double would pay out almost 10/1.

That's very good odds.

I would give Coalisland the edge against Trillick who might have some injury worries - R Donnelly only lasted 20 minutes last week and Daire Gallagher was not fit enough to start.

Errigal also have big injury problems too.

I would definitely have Coalisland as favorites! Obviously, Errigal are favored but Dungannon should definitely be lower odds than 7/2, that game is going to be very close. They have had to grind out two Championship wins and will be coming in very confident. Dungannon also haven't been beat this year.

I think Errigal will just about prevail against Dungannon but expect it to be a tight affair. Dungannon do seem to be totally reliant on Donaghy for scores so if Errigal snuff him out then it's hard to see where the scores will come from.

I think Coalisland have a better spread of players on their team, Trillick rely heavily on the Donnellys and Brennans but again it should be another close fought encounter.

Fancy Trillick and Dungannon myself, both i think have better benches to come on but will be tight affairs, wouldn't be surprised to see another extra time in either

Wish I was a betting man

The 2 Westies down as favorites with PP. I thought betting would be much closer. Trillick 4/5 & Coalisland 11/8. Errigal 2/9 & Dungannon 7/2.
An East Double would pay out almost 10/1.

That's very good odds.

I would give Coalisland the edge against Trillick who might have some injury worries - R Donnelly only lasted 20 minutes last week and Daire Gallagher was not fit enough to start.

Errigal also have big injury problems too.

I would definitely have Coalisland as favorites! Obviously, Errigal are favored but Dungannon should definitely be lower odds than 7/2, that game is going to be very close. They have had to grind out two Championship wins and will be coming in very confident. Dungannon also haven't been beat this year.

I think Errigal will just about prevail against Dungannon but expect it to be a tight affair. Dungannon do seem to be totally reliant on Donaghy for scores so if Errigal snuff him out then it's hard to see where the scores will come from.

I think Coalisland have a better spread of players on their team, Trillick rely heavily on the Donnellys and Brennans but again it should be another close fought encounter.

Fancy Trillick and Dungannon myself, both i think have better benches to come on but will be tight affairs, wouldn't be surprised to see another extra time in either

Tell you what, we've been treated to some championship so far. Fair play to all those teams who have really gone for it and left nothing on the pitch. Hopefully next weekend is no different and the whole country gets to see why we think our championship is the most competitive in ireland

Would Strabane not tend to  favour the soccer ball ?
Dungannon have a very progressive Hurling club and both working hard.
There are 4 clubs in the Omagh area, although Omagh are doing massive work at underage, reintroducing hurling and camogie.
Cookstown is a bit of a conundrum?

Dungannon had a lotta hoods too!

Interestingly i see Strabane beat Dungannon in grade 1 minor championship last night so they must be doing something right.
Strong town teams are good for the whole county in my view. They definitely tend to get it tougher translating youth players into senior players. Whether soccerball or other sports is a factor is one thing but i also think that these clubs just don't have the same community ethos as some country clubs where it's almost civic duty to keep togging out.

Do 8 lads with white shirts, ties, sun glasses and black gloves usually just turn up at funerals in the North and just happen to walk in single file each side of the hearse?

You got there before me. Funnily enough, they seem to be the only ones who might be marching - sorry, walking - two metres apart.

Criticism aimed at SF here a bit misplaced. This man was an ex-SF councillor. Some of those boys in white shirts wouldn't be big fans of SF. Not nowadays anyway.

And they were wearing gloves as well, very responsible.

Imagine leaving a club because you wanted to play D1 football only to be selected for the thirds and having to play against your first club. Scunndered for them.

who are the sly digs aimed at? no call for it.

My Guess its McGahan - Coalisland transferred him in from Killyman - was a great transfer for them as they wouldn't have won 2010 championship without him. Killyman man ended the 20 year wait for them.

They wudnt have won 2018 without him either, destroyed KC from the edge of the square and scored the crucial goal!!

Think this is aimed at a couple of brackaville lads who haven't set the world alight at coalisland!

[Coalisland]

I suppose whats a championship draw without an early season prediction.

Senior Championship First Round

Clonoe v Coalisland

Moy v Derrylaughan

Galbally v Trillick

Killyclogher v Carrickmore

Loughmacrory v Dungannon

Ardboe v Donaghmore

Errigal Ciaran v Pomeroy

Omagh v Dromore

Hard to beat an early prediction.

Semi finals:
Coalisland v Trillick
Errigal v Dungannon

With a repeat of last year's final.

If anybody needs any reminding why a large proportion of the population still have an issue with sinn fein being involved in government then they should watch Lost Lives which was on BBC1NI last night.

Lazy analysis, did the IRA kill innocent people, undoubtedly, but then look at the history of the NI state. When did the violence and insurrection of the '20's become acceptable. There is blood on many hands including Unionist/loyalist, Republicans and the British State. The Irish state could also be arguably guilty of the sin of omission, and that is before we get into the scandal and corruption. So whilst SF undoubtedly have a past they can only be part of the future of this island. It was exclusionary politics that led to partition and all that followed. Memories have a habit of being selective.

And this is why I tend not to comment on political threads....the point I am making is that many people in the south of a certain age will undoubtedly feel uneasy in voting for SF or seeing them in govt given their links to those awful awful days not that long ago. For some that cannot be forgotten or forgiven.