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2 men that have gone the other direction are Conor Loftus and Eoin O'Donoughe

i think well still see plenty of those 2 . they are too good to disappear,
any one know much about ballinas  Mikey Murray Mikey Murray

He's so good they named him twice.

PM'd you.

Anyone with any level of understanding of the game know these playing rules are hindering not helping the game.

Because the starting point for the rule changes was " How do we reduce the amount of handpassing in the game" and too much focus was put on that. In typical GAA fashion a set of rules were created that appear to compound the problem rather than alleviate it. The thought process needed to start with "What rule changes would benefit the team who puts the emphasis on attack". Then we might start moving in a better direction. Not this trial situation which over complicates the game and heaps more on already overloaded referees.

This week's Mayo News has a piece about the final panel. New inclusions are Fionn McDonagh, Oisin McLoughlin, Conor Diskin and Ryan O'Donaghue. Reape is also in the squad, while Shane Nally, Adam Gallagher, Conor O'Shea and Shairoze Akram didn't make it. Cian Hanley wasn't named either due injury. There are a few more names mentioned but don't have the paper to hand at the mo. The piece also stated the the panel would be open ended up to the championship.

[If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!]

A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.

I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.

How did this superb team lose to Kildare this year but will be expected to compete for an AI with a year more on the clock?

Keegan and Vaughan not match fit after serious injuries.
Our  first choice midfield gone.
Newbridge or nowhere galvanised a very good Kildare team.
The hottest weather in 30 years took a toll on a lot of our players.

As an aside you have serious interest in Mayo syferus.Was it always this way or is only since we sent ye back to the stone age with a 20 something point mauling in Croke park??

Unless they've got the championship moved the old men are likely to have or deal with hot weather in summer 2019 too..

Didn't realise we had an entire squad in their mid to late thirties🤔

According to today's Sindo, Solan will have Tyrone's Enda McGinley as part of his backroom team if he gets the job, along with his U20 selector John Ginty and a high profile former Mayo player.who is as yet nameless.

McStay for Mayo, you know it makes sense.

No chance Dinny, the lads in the Co Board executive have no love for him and especially Liam McHale. I don't think Horan will go for it either as again certain members of the executive won't want him there!!
My money would be somebody like Maurice Sheridan getting the gig.

Don't think McStay would be too keen on dealing with certain members of the current executive anyway after his failed bid in 2014. Horan has stated that if he did go back it would have to be completely on his own terms, something the county board are certainly not willing to capitulate to.

If we lose to Armagh there might be a candidate available

If so, I doubt he'll deal with our co board again for a good while after the last fiasco.

If Rochford goes it'll be his choice. Co Board don't want to go through the hassle of another managerial appointment with no obvious candidates in the county for the job. IF he stays and IF the majority of the players stay on, Rochford will be working with something next year that he hasn't had the last three years. A rested squad.

Congrats to Kildare, better team on the day. Hunger shown by Kildare in the last 10-15 mins the big difference for me. They won 4 big 50/50 balls in the period that really drove them on. As for us, not enough got from our big game players on the day. I actually looked over the pitch at one point in the second half and wondered if Keegan was still on the pitch. Said it all really, a lot of guys looked well gassed before the end. Disappointed but not as much as I thought I'd be. Maybe the sense that this was coming at some point. Sorry for the guys who've brought us so close so many times the last few years and possibly may not get another chance.

Cooke's introduction was for Conroy was initially as a temporary sub, which in the rules states does not count towards your six subs. However if the injured/bloodied player does not return to the pitch it is no longer a temporary substitution.

[By my understanding Thomas Flynn shouldn't have come back on for Cooke]

Seen some comments on line that Galway used seven substitutes the last day. After reading the indo match report and counting the subs used it would appear to be true. By my understanding Thomas Flynn shouldn't have come back on for Cooke after his black card and Galway would've been down to 14 men. Given that Flynn contributed substantially in the last few minutes I'm surprised this hasn't been picked up anywhere, unless I'm missing something.🤔

Why? You're allowed use a max of 21 players, not max 6 subs

Rule 2.4 (i) The maximum number of substitutions permitted during the playing of Normal Time shall be Six in Football and Five in Hurling.

Edit: It may actually be 6 max but Cooke's introduction was as a blood sub i believe so didnt count

Seen some comments on line that Galway used seven substitutes the last day. After reading the indo match report and counting the subs used it would appear to be true. By my understanding Thomas Flynn shouldn't have come back on for Cooke after his black card and Galway would've been down to 14 men. Given that Flynn contributed substantially in the last few minutes I'm surprised this hasn't been picked up anywhere, unless I'm missing something.🤔 I know Cooke came on as a blood sub for Conroy but my understanding is if a blood sub is permanent it counts towards the number of subs you can use.

It'll be interesting to see what our back six will be Sunday. With Keegan out and assuming Barrett, Harrison and Vaughan have proven their fitness, picking 6 from those three and Higgins, Boyle, P Durcan, O'Donaghue, Coen and Crowe will be a head scratcher.

Be interesting to see if this sells out . 28k in mchale park and it will still look half empty, health & safety gone daft if ya ask me.

What was it originally supposed to be after the stand was finished? I've a figure of 37000 in my head, but can't say I've ever seen a definitive number..