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Title: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 23, 2012, 10:23:09 AM
The Senior and Junior Club SF's took place last weekend, no mention on this board and even on the County Forum there was only a few posts. Derrynoose seemed to have an easy win over Lurgan and having done likewise to Portadown in the previous round it would appear that hurling in North Armagh is in trouble. That said Keady and Middletown fought out a draw in the Senior and replay this Friday. Is noone interested in the small ball any more?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: nrico2006 on August 23, 2012, 11:00:41 AM
Hurling has been hit hard this year, a lot of the clubs in Armagh have only played a few league games.  This is as a result of the restructuring of the leagues for one, which split the two divisions into three.  Each team got maybe 12 to 14 games previously but with 3 leagues of maybe 5 teams it doesn't make any sense as to why they split them.  Lurgan have only played one league game at the start of June and one about 2 weeks ago.  Lost in the championship due to a lot of players missing due to travelling/emigration, probably missing about 7 starting players from last years team.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 23, 2012, 05:43:58 PM
Where you at the semi-final?

I have just come home from the Cuchulainn Hurling Club Summer Camp, where Ken McGrath was quoted as saying it was the biggest Camp he had seen in years, fyi 180+ kids.


A bit of an over reaction, there was never any great discussion on this board regarding Hurling and the state of Armagh hurling does not equate to the amount of debate on a GAA discussion forum which has overall been down in activity. Also I know a few lads who would've from time to time piped in with their 2 cents worth have now evolved from student to Professional, thus one would feel cutting down their ''surfing''.

One thing I do believe is that a lot of work is still needed behind the scenes re. Armagh hurling, but I know a few lads working their utmost and they do be pissing against the wind sometimes. Armagh Hurling has and as far as I can see always will struggle against our status as a footballing county, BUT DEAD, NO!!!
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 24, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
Yeah I was at the semi-finals Keady Middletown was an exciting game, the Derrynoose game was poor and the goals for the winners put a gloss on a poor spectacle. Mickey Johnson in todays IN named 5 South Armagh teams as the top teams in the County, which seems to support my contention that hurling is in bother in the north of the county. I would dearly love to see it emulate the county teams success but with only five teams considered to be making the grade the County Board need to weigh in with some sort of help...but what is the question given the strength of football?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: nrico2006 on August 24, 2012, 09:50:43 AM
There only is the two teams in the North of the County, and I know Portadown have been struggling this past few years but Lurgan would be on a par with Derrynoose and ahead of Killeavey and Camlough.  From a senior perspective, things have gotten worse this past two seasons due to the league split I mentioned as well as the County Board now postponing games due to the senior, minor or u-21 Coutny team playing.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: downtown on August 24, 2012, 11:17:49 PM
it was reborn tonight in the athletic grounds!!  ;)
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 24, 2012, 11:39:38 PM
Last time I went along with the Treacy's (and this was a long time ago, about 20 years or more) the attitude seemed to be that they were expecting to lose, they lost their game, and afterwards the speech on the bus back to Lurgan was about how that's what they expected to happen and all the players seemed to just laugh the whole thing off.  I don't know what the ethos of the club is like now but in them days the attitude was very lackadaisical.  Has a bit of local competition with Portadown helped to get some rivalry going and encouraged them to try harder?  I know they always had a decent underage setup, so the future existence of the club shouldn't be in doubt. The only question is will the youngsters grow to be cynical about their chances when they get older and will the rot set in?

And before anybody jumps at me for blaming the club, I'm not saying that's the only problem.  I also remember a national league inter-county hurling match being moved to a different pitch with less then 24 hours notice because of a scheduling conflict with some club football match in Davitt Park. 

Anyroad.  What happened tonight in the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 25, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
it was reborn tonight in the athletic grounds!!  ;)

It certainly was, I think both teams will be glad the the Cuchulianns had last week video recorded and not this week. Long time since I seen such a barny like that.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 29, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Any word or repercussions on the Battle of the Athletic Grounds, funny if there was a camera at the match the BBC execs would had salivated at the thought.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 30, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
No word yet. That said it was very much handbags until the Keady manager had a go at Middletowns manager who was actually trying to calm things down. It was disgusting to see Middletown subs and Keady fans jump the fence. I had the kids with me, no example to be set.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 30, 2012, 09:38:09 PM
No word yet. That said it was very much handbags until the Keady manager had a go at Middletowns manager who was actually trying to calm things down. It was disgusting to see Middletown subs and Keady fans jump the fence. I had the kids with me, no example to be set.

yeah, have to agree, although I do like to watch an owl dust up, its certainly not good for the kids. It really is a miracle no-one got seriously hurt because when the handbags as you call it turned into a fracas it was out of control.

Anyway apples Middletown will be big favs after stuffing the cuchulainns last year.  :'( But I think we will have maybe 7 possibly 8 different starters than last year and will give then a run for their money  8)
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2012, 05:52:41 PM
Club hurling looked in decent shape today. Hard fought match with Middletown winning by a point. Was tight the whole way through but some of the Middletown striking and shooting was poor which didn't help their cause.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Orchardman on September 02, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
The Senior and Junior Club SF's took place last weekend, no mention on this board and even on the County Forum there was only a few posts. Derrynoose seemed to have an easy win over Lurgan and having done likewise to Portadown in the previous round it would appear that hurling in North Armagh is in trouble. That said Keady and Middletown fought out a draw in the Senior and replay this Friday. Is noone interested in the small ball any more?


Talk about no hurling talk on the board meaning lack of interest? maybe so, but we are a football mad county and yet look at this: football championship on this weekend and no post since 17th august. Also there has been only 2 pages of posts since the league began in april. Go figure
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: mackers on September 03, 2012, 10:38:01 AM
This Armagh Club Section has become much quieter because everybody is on the Orchard County forum discussing club football.  Plenty of debate on there.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 03, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
For those interested in Hurling, photos of the county final

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157631391155722/detail/

Can't help but wonder had the game not been played opposite an All Ireland semi final would there have been a better crowd
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 05, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Hearing reports that there was another row last night during an u16 hurling match with one player hospitalised as a result - not good
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Oraisteach on September 05, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what two clubs are at odds.  Is it Keady and Middletown?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 05, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
One year on and no word of Hurling finals that I've seen (other than link I posted to photos) sad that more people not go to look at 2 county finals, though hard to draw the "I might go to that" when up against an All Ireland football semi final and double headed soccer on TV.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: T Fearon on September 05, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
They were both streamed live on Armagh TV.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: nrico2006 on September 05, 2013, 03:35:37 PM
Not much talk about the hurling, there will probably be a few photos on the Armagh GAA site along with highlights from the streams aswell.  Don't think there is any reports out yet though for the two games.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: T Fearon on September 05, 2013, 03:57:15 PM
Would be surprised if there aren't any reports in some of the Observer Newspaper titles (Armagh Observer/Lurgan and Portadown Examiner) and the Ulster Gazette.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 05, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
Not much on here though, replay for senior match on Thursday 19th for those who feel like supporting a bit of hurling in county
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Throw ball on September 05, 2013, 09:31:27 PM
Not much on here though, replay for senior match on Thursday 19th for those who feel like supporting a bit of hurling in county

Despite the clash with Kerry v Dublin there was a fair crowd at the match. The official website said 6600 also watched it on Armagh TV. Must say I thought £10 in was a bit steep though.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 13, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Sure that wasn't 660 at game? only a handful in seated area and about a dozen behind one goal with no one in other stand or goal areas
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Throw ball on September 14, 2013, 01:38:48 AM
Sure that wasn't 660 at game? only a handful in seated area and about a dozen behind one goal with no one in other stand or goal areas

I was referring to the online viewer numbers.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on February 18, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Few photos of Armagh v Down Hurling

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/