I was parked outside a shop on the Ormeau Road and noticed one of those privateer f**kers in the red jackets writing out a ticket so I ran out aplogised and jumped in the car and away before he could finish the ticket. Will I get one in the post??
They're not all bad. Got one yesterday saying Parking Fine and was delighted at the compliment.
The bastards usually take a photograph before they write anything down.
What's the chances of the Council in Kells, Co Meath chasing a NI registered car owner for a 40 yo yo parking fine? Just wondering like ::)
Quote from: 5 Sams on March 14, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
What's the chances of the Council in Kells, Co Meath chasing a NI registered car owner for a 40 yo yo parking fine? Just wondering like ::)
So you're to blame for the armed garda on the meath borders hassling NI cars.
Nah you should be fine, ive 3 myself - Galway, Ennis and Dundalk
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on March 14, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on March 14, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
What's the chances of the Council in Kells, Co Meath chasing a NI registered car owner for a 40 yo yo parking fine? Just wondering like ::)
So you're to blame for the armed garda on the meath borders hassling NI cars.
Nah you should be fine, ive 3 myself - Galway, Ennis and Dundalk
:D :D
Quote from: StGallsGAA on March 01, 2012, 11:16:14 PM
I was parked outside a shop on the Ormeau Road and noticed one of those privateer f**kers in the red jackets writing out a ticket so I ran out aplogised and jumped in the car and away before he could finish the ticket. Will I get one in the post??
Good chance you will, was talkin to someone this happened to recently, he appealed it and eventually it was thrown out.
last week i bought a ticket in a pay and display car park and later on that day reused it another car park as the date and time were still valid. I got back to find a fine on the windscreen, traffic warden was still there, apparently you need a seperate ticket for every car park. Appealed it but i wont be holding my breath!
the wife was in newry yesterday and parked in the Merchant Quay Retail Park (free parking).
when she came back to the car there was a parking ticket for £60 from these cnuts:
http://www.ukparkingcontrol.com/
it said on the ticket she was fined because she left the site. i.e. because she didnt go shopping in the park
is this enforcable? should it just be ignored?
should fine folks, if their parking is bad
Quote from: clarshack on April 19, 2013, 11:05:22 AM
the wife was in newry yesterday and parked in the Merchant Quay Retail Park (free parking).
when she came back to the car there was a parking ticket for £60 from these cnuts:
http://www.ukparkingcontrol.com/
it said on the ticket she was fined because she left the site. i.e. because she didnt go shopping in the park
is this enforcable? should it just be ignored?
They could never enforce it. I'm sure if she thinks about it she will remember leaving the car park to go to a bank machine and returning to Merchants Quay to do some shopping. Unfortunately they did not have your favourite brand of wine/aftershave/socks so she did not buy anything.
Basically you have no chance of appealing a parking fine successfully unless you have a cast iron reason or excuse for having parked illegally in the first place, normally being elderly, disabled and confused, in my experience, and im none of the three! Just about got an elderly relative off a rap recently.He got a parking ticket for parking in disablef bay outside his own door.Had his blue badge on dashboard but not opened as he hurried back indoors to look after his infirm spouse.He got the ticket and the appeal was grudgingly and eventually accepted but it was touch and go.
some tesco are set up with free car parking if u shopping in it, i normally pop in, buy something, then go shopping up the town
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on March 14, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on March 14, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
What's the chances of the Council in Kells, Co Meath chasing a NI registered car owner for a 40 yo yo parking fine? Just wondering like ::)
So you're to blame for the armed garda on the meath borders hassling NI cars.
Nah you should be fine, ive 3 myself - Galway, Ennis and Dundalk
Foreigners ::)
Talking about parking,one of my fav. sites is
Youparklikeac@nt.
Change that @ to a u. ;)
I got one in Armagh about 18 months ago. Really annoyed me as the time restriction was 1 hour parking in any two hour period. So I had parked for a while drove to Craigavon over lunch then drove back and parked in same spot. Came out to find Warden putting ticket on my car. I complained that I had left and returned and wasn't in violation of the restriction. Warden wasn't having any of it and said he had recorded the positions of the valves on my wheels and they were in the same place. He then opened his book to show me that when he recorded them 90 minutes previous they were the same. The idiot though also showed me that he had only recorded the positions of about three cars and they all had tickets on them. So what he was obviously doing was filling in both valve positions when he was issuing the tickets but pretending he had recorded them at an earlier time.
Anyway I appealed and they rejected it and it was only when I threatened to take them to court did they let up. The worst thing is the warden is still about Armagh.
I got a parking fine in the post - £100.
Nice.
The document included a picture of my car at the start of December with a fine under the wipers on the windscreen. I never saw the document. Obviously someone lifted it or it blew away.
Q1) If I had paid the original fine would it have been cheaper?
Q2) see question 1.
Note: Any hilarity or jocular comments will be severely dealt with.
The original fine is cheaper if paid within 30 days after which it automatically doubles, but if you didn't see the original fine how could you have known you had to pay it?
Has anyone ever got a parking charge notice from Smart Parking? Got one through the post after parking in the Showgrounds in Omagh which is a free car park with a three hour limit. They have timed pictures of when I arrived and when I left - about 3 and half hours. But I'd moved the car in between times.
Do I need to pay this or just ignore it? Anyone had this kind of experience before? Thanks.
Quote from: on the sideline on August 03, 2018, 10:31:24 AM
Has anyone ever got a parking charge notice from Smart Parking? Got one through the post after parking in the Showgrounds in Omagh which is a free car park with a three hour limit. They have timed pictures of when I arrived and when I left - about 3 and half hours. But I'd moved the car in between times.
Do I need to pay this or just ignore it? Anyone had this kind of experience before? Thanks.
Generally the rule of thumb is if its not from the council ignore them till they go away I don't see why these fellas would be any different, if you search Smart Parking fines on facebook you'll see ones asking about them.
The logic is if I go and park on your drive way for half an hour, you decide I should give you 60 quid, its not really legally binding.
I would ignore them. As far as i am aware they arent enforceable.
Quote from: on the sideline on August 03, 2018, 10:31:24 AM
Has anyone ever got a parking charge notice from Smart Parking? Got one through the post after parking in the Showgrounds in Omagh which is a free car park with a three hour limit. They have timed pictures of when I arrived and when I left - about 3 and half hours. But I'd moved the car in between times.
Do I need to pay this or just ignore it? Anyone had this kind of experience before? Thanks.
Leaving the car park and returning 'rather soon' doesn't get you off the hook in the respect of breaking the 3 hour restriction.
Most probably there's a condition in the regulations stating that if you leave the parking lot within the 3 hour time span, that you cannot return within such and such a time frame. The best advice has already been given, ignore it.
I got recorded twice on camera in Edinburgh last year in a Tesco's car park. for overstaying the 3 hour limit. It was a rented car and some time later I got an email message from the rental car company, Interrent mean b**tards, owned by even meaner b**tards - Budget car hire). I was charged with a parking offence and they stated that they had already paid the fine, 2 x £60 then sent methe bill along with an admin charge of £60 for each ticket. It came to a total of £240. If I didn't appeal they would deduct all charges from my credit card the next month.
I appealed on the basis that the Car park authority broke one of the regulations that they are bound to follow, namely that they are mandated to send out the ticket within a timely period, no longer than 28 days after the alleged offence. My ticket was sent out 2 weeks past that deadline. The car park authority had broken one of their own golden rules, if that time period was not complied with, the case had to be dropped. A cast iron appeal you might think , but Interrent went ahead and deducted GBP240 from my credit card. They said they would do that pending the outcome of the appeal.
I asked them for proof that they had actually paid the parking fine and that they had sent in my appeal, none forthcoming
I checked up on the regulations the rental car is supposed to follow and zoomed in on their the golden rule "no credit card deductions until an appeal has been adjudicated upon". Interrent had broke their very own regulations, however they just ignored my emails informing them about that detail. I quickly gave up on them, I compiled all the evidence, put it in a book of evidence file in an orderly fashion (as Harry Bosch might do) and sent it to my credit card company. Within a week they refunded me the Gbp 240 in total, with pleasure they said. They nullified the debit and recouped the money from Interrrent
I then finally received an email from Interrent stating that since I had appealed to the credit card company, they would no longer consider any further contact from me. I thought that to be be quite funny.
Quote from: on the sideline on August 03, 2018, 10:31:24 AM
Has anyone ever got a parking charge notice from Smart Parking? Got one through the post after parking in the Showgrounds in Omagh which is a free car park with a three hour limit. They have timed pictures of when I arrived and when I left - about 3 and half hours. But I'd moved the car in between times.
Do I need to pay this or just ignore it? Anyone had this kind of experience before? Thanks.
I got one a few years ago. Still no idea where from (in terms of where I was supposed to have parked) but they got my details from DVLA. They sent me 17 letters 15 of which were marked final demand and were headed with three or four different debt collection agency alias. I continually reminded them that any contract that they were claiming breach of was with the driver and I was the owner. They said I had to appeal and sent me numerous pieces of case law that they had edited or truncated to try and pressure me into paying. I continually asked them to sue me and eventually threatened them with harassment proceedings before they desisted.
Quote from: tyrone girl on August 03, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
I would ignore them. As far as i am aware they arent enforceable.
Oh yes it is. Here is the history of how it became so:
The Beavis case (Barry Beavis v/s Parking Eye) went to appeal at the Supreme Court where the case was heard on 21st-23rd July 2015. The Law Lords were asked to consider the ruling of the Appeal Court on 23rd April 2015. The Judgement was made on 4th November 2015.
The seven Law Lords were being asked to rule on:
Whether a charge of £85 for exceeding a maximum car parking period is an unenforceable penalty?
Whether a charge of £85 for exceeding a maximum car parking period is unfair under the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999/2003?
https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2015-0116.html (https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2015-0116.html)
The Beavis case and its implications are very well described here: http://ukscblog.com/case-preview-parkingeye-limited-v-beavis/ (http://ukscblog.com/case-preview-parkingeye-limited-v-beavis/)
It is unfortunate that Beavis clearly ignored well-posted warnings that parking was for 2 hours only and exceeding that carried a penalty of £85.
On 4th November 2015, The Supreme Court dismissed the Beavis appeal by a majority of six to one, and declared that the charge of £85 does not contravene the penalty rule, or the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999.
Mr Beavis had a contractual licence to park in the car park on the terms of the notice posted at the entrance, including the two hour limit. The £85 was a charge for contravening the terms of the contractual licence. This is a common scheme, subject to indirect regulation by statute and the British Parking Association's Code of Practice. The charge had two main objects: (i) the management of the efficient use of parking space in the interests of the retail outlets and their users by deterring long-stay or commuter traffic, and (ii) the generation of income in order to run the scheme.So, this judgement of the Supreme Court has set the law on both parking on private land and the use of cameras for ticketing in place of or as well as placing a ticket on the car.
Anyway what were you doing in the Showgrounds for over 3 hours?
Quite correct the Supreme Court has set the law for England and Wales. It has little to no application in Northern Ireland. For a start any contract would have to be formed between the company and the driver not the company and the owner as is permissible in E&W. Moreover the Unfair Contract Terms Act on which the case was brought has no application to NI.
At the minute parking companies would find it very difficult to enforce these tickets in Northern Ireland. Considerable differences in land law rules would have to be considered for a start.
I've always been told to ignore private parking company fines as they aren't enforceable in NI. Has there been any case where they've actually gone ahead and taken someone to court here?
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
I got one a few months back, Mrs parked in a carpark in Banbridge that was 3 hours only, have had 5 letters so far, latest threatening debt recovery agencies and court, going to keep ignoring them.
Quote from: charlieTully on August 07, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
I got one a few months back, Mrs parked in a carpark in Banbridge that was 3 hours only, have had 5 letters so far, latest threatening debt recovery agencies and court, going to keep ignoring them.
Given they have no contract with you they would do well to take you to court. Assuming you are registered keeper. They will keep coming for a while but imagine they will give up.
Quote from: David McKeown on August 07, 2018, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 07, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
I got one a few months back, Mrs parked in a carpark in Banbridge that was 3 hours only, have had 5 letters so far, latest threatening debt recovery agencies and court, going to keep ignoring them.
Given they have no contract with you they would do well to take you to court. Assuming you are registered keeper. They will keep coming for a while but imagine they will give up.
Scenario is the wife paid for parking but overstayed her welcome. Does this make a difference given she paid initially?
Quote from: David McKeown on August 07, 2018, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 07, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
I got one a few months back, Mrs parked in a carpark in Banbridge that was 3 hours only, have had 5 letters so far, latest threatening debt recovery agencies and court, going to keep ignoring them.
Thanks David
Given they have no contract with you they would do well to take you to court. Assuming you are registered keeper. They will keep coming for a while but imagine they will give up.
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 07, 2018, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 07, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
I got one a few months back, Mrs parked in a carpark in Banbridge that was 3 hours only, have had 5 letters so far, latest threatening debt recovery agencies and court, going to keep ignoring them.
Given they have no contract with you they would do well to take you to court. Assuming you are registered keeper. They will keep coming for a while but imagine they will give up.
Scenario is the wife paid for parking but overstayed her welcome. Does this make a difference given she paid initially?
No. Just continue to ignore.
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 07, 2018, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 07, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 07, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
Jesus Christ. Had been reading this thread thinking that will never happen to me. Anyways, wife parked somewhere in Bangor wtf? Got one of these through the post today. Smart parking. What's the story? Pay it or ignore it.
I got one a few months back, Mrs parked in a carpark in Banbridge that was 3 hours only, have had 5 letters so far, latest threatening debt recovery agencies and court, going to keep ignoring them.
Given they have no contract with you they would do well to take you to court. Assuming you are registered keeper. They will keep coming for a while but imagine they will give up.
Scenario is the wife paid for parking but overstayed her welcome. Does this make a difference given she paid initially?
This is what I see to be the biggest problem the car park would have in this jurisdiction. In England and Wales the Car owner is liable for civil wrongs committed by drivers. There is a statutory basis for that. The statute doesn't apply here, so the car company would have to prove you were driving. I don't know how they would do that. Particularly as you weren't.
In a bizzare coincidence the debt recovery people rang me today about the case described above having not been in contact in more than 6 months. I missed the call and rang them back and they refused to speak to me until I provided personal information to them. I refused and hung up and have reported them to the police as a potential phone scam.
Quote from: David McKeown on August 08, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
In a bizzare coincidence the debt recovery people rang me today about the case described above having not been in contact in more than 6 months. I missed the call and rang them back and they refused to speak to me until I provided personal information to them. I refused and hung up and have reported them to the police as a potential phone scam.
;D ;D ;D fighting the good fight
Another thing that was pointed out to me today is that a lot of land of these so called private land Car parks aren't actually on private land but are instead public places. The one today involving Rushmere shopping centre so I really can't see how these charges could be enforceable here.
Quote from: David McKeown on August 08, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
In a bizzare coincidence the debt recovery people rang me today about the case described above having not been in contact in more than 6 months. I missed the call and rang them back and they refused to speak to me until I provided personal information to them. I refused and hung up and have reported them to the police as a potential phone scam.
Quality ;D
My wife has one of these parking tickets from Car Park Services. She was parked in a car park near Botanic in Belfast and forgot to start the counter on that Park Mobile app.
Under normal circumstances I'd ignore. However she uses that car park on a regular basis. Can they clamp her at a later date for non-payment of the parking ticket?
Quote from: take_yer_points on November 08, 2018, 03:00:36 PM
My wife has one of these parking tickets from Car Park Services. She was parked in a car park near Botanic in Belfast and forgot to start the counter on that Park Mobile app.
Under normal circumstances I'd ignore. However she uses that car park on a regular basis. Can they clamp her at a later date for non-payment of the parking ticket?
Only if they are licensed to clamp.
Quote from: David McKeown on August 08, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
In a bizzare coincidence the debt recovery people rang me today about the case described above having not been in contact in more than 6 months. I missed the call and rang them back and they refused to speak to me until I provided personal information to them. I refused and hung up and have reported them to the police as a potential phone scam.
I burst out laughing on reading the last line there!
I had a similar experience with a fine from a private car parking company in Newry(i never responded at all). Although I had shopped in quite a few of the surrounding shops that day I had overstayed the 2 hour time limit. Numerous letters followed after i failed to pay the initial £120 fine.
It was quite comical actually(although I'm sure it could be frightening for some people). Various threatening letters about harm to credit ratings and being referred to their specialist debt collection agency would follow one after another. After the 5th letter or so they offered to reduce the fine for one chance only before referring to their legal department. The fine would then increase for a few letters before being decreased for one very last chance. Final demands being printed on the envelopes was a tad embarrassing I suppose. I think there was about 15 or so letters before they finally gave up. My one very small pleasure in the whole thing was the postage it cost the pr#@ks.
Got a legit parking ticket and fine couple of months ago on Lisburn Road Belfast from DEpartment for Infrstructure or whatever they are called. Appealed it and said I had run out of fuel at the time with an accompanying invoice from a mechanic I know to say he had repaired the faulty fuel gauge.
Fine was cancelled.
Quote from: bogball88 on November 13, 2018, 08:51:59 PM
Got a legit parking ticket and fine couple of months ago on Lisburn Road Belfast from DEpartment for Infrstructure or whatever they are called. Appealed it and said I had run out of fuel at the time with an accompanying invoice from a mechanic I know to say he had repaired the faulty fuel gauge.
Fine was cancelled.
I think the legislation gives you an absolute defence if you are prevent from moving the vehicle by circumstances beyond your control. I've had a couple cancelled over the years. The problem I have is they have a policy that says you may only use each acceptable reason once which I think is unlawful.
They wouldn't cancel one for my heavily pregnant wife a year ago when she parked on double yellow lines outside the house we were staying in so that she could run to the bathroom. I've been bitter about that one since.
The somewhat more serious issue is these companies who are declaring these car parks to be private land may inadvertently be facilitating what would otherwise be crime. I know for example McDonalds will report anyone they suspect of drink driving and ask them to remain in the space for orders that are taking too long. Unless the police are clever enough to allow the alleged offender to leave the confines of one of these private car parks they've committed no crime.
Similarly hit and runs in these car parks used to allow people to be charged with failure to stop/remain/report etc as well as careless driving. Often insurance companies will hold the victim liable if a conviction can't be secured. These private car parking companies would give an offender an absolute defence and leave the victim high and dry.
Quote from: grounded on November 13, 2018, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 08, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
In a bizzare coincidence the debt recovery people rang me today about the case described above having not been in contact in more than 6 months. I missed the call and rang them back and they refused to speak to me until I provided personal information to them. I refused and hung up and have reported them to the police as a potential phone scam.
I burst out laughing on reading the last line there!
I had a similar experience with a fine from a private car parking company in Newry(i never responded at all). Although I had shopped in quite a few of the surrounding shops that day I had overstayed the 2 hour time limit. Numerous letters followed after i failed to pay the initial £120 fine.
It was quite comical actually(although I'm sure it could be frightening for some people). Various threatening letters about harm to credit ratings and being referred to their specialist debt collection agency would follow one after another. After the 5th letter or so they offered to reduce the fine for one chance only before referring to their legal department. The fine would then increase for a few letters before being decreased for one very last chance. Final demands being printed on the envelopes was a tad embarrassing I suppose. I think there was about 15 or so letters before they finally gave up. My one very small pleasure in the whole thing was the postage it cost the pr#@ks.
In this instance if you don't engage they haven't a leg.
What about the M50 toll?
Got a letter from back in August when it wasn't paid
Northern reg car and address
Quote from: giveherlong on November 14, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
What about the M50 toll?
Got a letter from back in August when it wasn't paid
Northern reg car and address
If it's your first time they'll let you off if you call them up and offer to pay the toll. If you make a habit of it they can seize your car in extreme cases. I'd pay up, its only 3 euro.
Quote from: Ambrose on November 14, 2018, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on November 14, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
What about the M50 toll?
Got a letter from back in August when it wasn't paid
Northern reg car and address
If it's your first time they'll let you off if you call them up and offer to pay the toll. If you make a habit of it they can seize your car in extreme cases. I'd pay up, its only 3 euro.
Not after this in time I'd say it's around €50/60 if it's from back in August!
Quote from: screenexile on November 14, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ambrose on November 14, 2018, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on November 14, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
What about the M50 toll?
Got a letter from back in August when it wasn't paid
Northern reg car and address
If it's your first time they'll let you off if you call them up and offer to pay the toll. If you make a habit of it they can seize your car in extreme cases. I'd pay up, its only 3 euro.
Not after this in time I'd say it's around €50/60 if it's from back in August!
I had one which built up to close to 100. I had genuinely just moved house and several penalties landed at my new address at once, some of them months old. I called them with my sob story and they reduced it something like 7 Euro provided I paid immediately
Quote from: screenexile on November 14, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ambrose on November 14, 2018, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on November 14, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
What about the M50 toll?
Got a letter from back in August when it wasn't paid
Northern reg car and address
If it's your first time they'll let you off if you call them up and offer to pay the toll. If you make a habit of it they can seize your car in extreme cases. I'd pay up, its only 3 euro.
Not after this in time I'd say it's around €50/60 if it's from back in August!
It's €11 at the minute
Letter landed the day
Get an account and pay the 11 quid.
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
IGNORE
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Cheers lads
Got a parking ticket today. Basically the permit adhesive didn't stick to the window because of the heat. It's fallen to the floor and I had a lovely yellow notice in my car when I got back.
I still have the permit of course which I paid for. Is it worth appealing? Anyone done this before?
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 08, 2020, 10:38:11 PM
Got a parking ticket today. Basically the permit adhesive didn't stick to the window because of the heat. It's fallen to the floor and I had a lovely yellow notice in my car when I got back.
I still have the permit of course which I paid for. Is it worth appealing? Anyone done this before?
Yes. Send the permit and your appeal will be successful
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
No, I got maybe 3 or 4 letters in 2019, they stopped and I haven't heard anything since. Was told by people here and by my own research that they aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
Quote from: grounded on March 06, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
Got one as well in last few days
Was for parking at a retail park a few years ago
Hadn't heard from them in ages
Unfortunately can't check the details as it came in handy earlier to light the fire 😬
Quote from: grounded on March 06, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
Ring them, say the debt is not valid and this will be your only correspondence on the matter. Debt collectors are not to be ignored
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 08, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: grounded on March 06, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
Ring them, say the debt is not valid and this will be your only correspondence on the matter. Debt collectors are not to be ignored
Ringing them and discussing such matter is taking ownership of the debt however - do not ring
Quote from: general on March 08, 2021, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 08, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: grounded on March 06, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
Ring them, say the debt is not valid and this will be your only correspondence on the matter. Debt collectors are not to be ignored
Ringing them and discussing such matter is taking ownership of the debt however - do not ring
Ah the Board has missed a feud like this over the last few days with Sid and Angelo's sabbatical. If you two could turn this difference in opinion into a ten page thread hopefully throwing in fascism, racism, coronavirus, hypocrites and a few insults we would not need those two back. ;)
Quote from: general on March 08, 2021, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 08, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: grounded on March 06, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
Ring them, say the debt is not valid and this will be your only correspondence on the matter. Debt collectors are not to be ignored
Ringing them and discussing such matter is taking ownership of the debt however - do not ring
Yep. I didnt respond 5 years ago after about 13 letters issuing various threats of bailiffs, courts etc. I assumed at that time they got my address from the dvla?
In any event they sent this new demand letter to my old address. I just found it a bit weird that they would start again after about 5 years. Perhaps a new company took over?
Anyhow thanks for the advice
Would it not just be easier to just pay the 170 pound and never have to think about it again? ;D
Quote from: general on March 08, 2021, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 08, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: grounded on March 06, 2021, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Is it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Weirdly received a letter from a debt recovery company today(actually they had sent it to my old address).
This was for a parking charge notice from 2016. I think at that time in 2016 they had sent me a number of letters which i ignored. Various threats of increasing charge, then decreasing it if i paid, then passing it on to their legal department who tried the same approach. Went for about 12 or 13 letters.
This one is from a diiferent company but i expect it is the same lot.
Anybody else received these?
Ring them, say the debt is not valid and this will be your only correspondence on the matter. Debt collectors are not to be ignored
Ringing them and discussing such matter is taking ownership of the debt however - do not ring
It absolutely is not. If they are a legitimate agency they will be pissed off with buying a dud debt and not wamt to waste their time on it.
But ignoring debt collectors can see them present at your door.
Quote from: J70 on March 08, 2021, 01:55:42 PM
Would it not just be easier to just pay the 170 pound and never have to think about it again? ;D
In my case its £160 and Under normal circumstances i'd hold my hands up and pay if i genuinely did something wrong.
However in this case i think they're a shower of gougers. I'd parked in the car park of a retail centre in Newry. I'd spent an hour or two(actually i was dragged along by the missus) shopping in a number of the surrounding shops belonging to it. I went into a restaurant beside it for lunch and came out to see a pcn stuck to the windscreen. It stated i had overstayed the max permitted time. The parking charge notice sticker itself was practically the same as what an official penalty charge notice looks like. Obviously to sucker people into paying.
The two signs displaying this information were tiny, one was positioned way up the wall and i actually couldnt read the writing. The other was hidden behind foliage. I actually took a few photographs at the time.
As well as that, the 'fine' actually its an invoice was grossly disproportionate for the 15 mins or so i'd overstayed.
They sent about 13 or so letters with various threats of court, bailiffs, bad credit ratings etc. The envelopes themselves had plainly visible unpaid debt and debt collection etc to i assume embarass people.
The current one is from a crowd called direct collection balliffs limited certified baliffs and high court enforcement, as seen on tv, can't pay we'll take it away..
They've stated ' at this point you are no longer able to appeal this parking charge, you're next oppurtunity to dispute this charge would be if the matter is taken to court'
In very tiny writing on the back 'this case is not subject to high court or baliff action'
The postage cost of the 13 or 14 letters they've sent is the only silver lining.
Quote from: grounded on March 08, 2021, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 08, 2021, 01:55:42 PM
Would it not just be easier to just pay the 170 pound and never have to think about it again? ;D
In my case its £160 and Under normal circumstances i'd hold my hands up and pay if i genuinely did something wrong.
However in this case i think their a shower of gougers. I'd parked in the car park of a retail centre in Newry. I'd spent an hour or two(actually i was dragged along by the missus) shopping in a number of the surrounding shops belonging to it. I went into a restaurant beside it for lunch and came out to see a pcn stuck to the windscreen. It stated i had overstayed the max permitted time. The parking charge notice sticker itself was practically the same as what an official penalty charge notice looks like. Obviously to sucker people into paying.
The two signs displaying this information were tiny, one was positioned way up the wall and i actually couldnt read the writing. The other was hidden behind foliage. I actually took a few photographs at the time.
As well as that, the 'fine' actually its an invoice was grossly disproportionate for the 15 mins or so i'd overstayed.
They sent about 13 or so letters with various threats of court, bailiffs, bad credit ratings etc. The envelopes themselves had plainly visible unpaid debt and debt collection etc to i assume embarass people.
The current one is from a crowd called direct collection balliffs limited certified baliffs and high court enforcement, as seen on tv, can't pay we'll take it away..
They've stated ' at this point you are no longer able to appeal this parking charge, you're next oppurtunity to dispute this charge would be if the matter is taken to court'
In very tiny writing on the back 'this case is not subject to high court or baliff action'
The postage cost of the 13 or 14 letters they've sent is the only silver lining.
I would highly recommend that you should consult The N.I Consumer Council as they have dealt with a multitude of similar cases.
When I last got these they came from a few different firms but when I looked into them they were all registered to the same place. A scam of the highest order. If memory serves they didn't even tell me where I was supposed to have unlawfully parked.
Quote from: grounded on March 08, 2021, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 08, 2021, 01:55:42 PM
Would it not just be easier to just pay the 170 pound and never have to think about it again? ;D
In my case its £160 and Under normal circumstances i'd hold my hands up and pay if i genuinely did something wrong.
However in this case i think they're a shower of gougers. I'd parked in the car park of a retail centre in Newry. I'd spent an hour or two(actually i was dragged along by the missus) shopping in a number of the surrounding shops belonging to it. I went into a restaurant beside it for lunch and came out to see a pcn stuck to the windscreen. It stated i had overstayed the max permitted time. The parking charge notice sticker itself was practically the same as what an official penalty charge notice looks like. Obviously to sucker people into paying.
The two signs displaying this information were tiny, one was positioned way up the wall and i actually couldnt read the writing. The other was hidden behind foliage. I actually took a few photographs at the time.
As well as that, the 'fine' actually its an invoice was grossly disproportionate for the 15 mins or so i'd overstayed.
They sent about 13 or so letters with various threats of court, bailiffs, bad credit ratings etc. The envelopes themselves had plainly visible unpaid debt and debt collection etc to i assume embarass people.
The current one is from a crowd called direct collection balliffs limited certified baliffs and high court enforcement, as seen on tv, can't pay we'll take it away..
They've stated ' at this point you are no longer able to appeal this parking charge, you're next oppurtunity to dispute this charge would be if the matter is taken to court'
In very tiny writing on the back 'this case is not subject to high court or baliff action'
The postage cost of the 13 or 14 letters they've sent is the only silver lining.
I guess I misunderstood.
From comments, it appears to be a scam. My bad.
It is like the TV licence, it supports your local.postman at a time when postal volumes are falling
Quote from: armaghniac on March 08, 2021, 09:27:39 PM
It is like the TV licence, it supports your local.postman at a time when postal volumes are falling
Online ordered Packets and Parcels are what supports your local postman. Mail is only an afterthought anymore!
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 08, 2021, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 08, 2021, 09:27:39 PM
It is like the TV licence, it supports your local.postman at a time when postal volumes are falling
Online ordered Packets and Parcels are what supports your local postman. Mail is only an afterthought anymore!
Online packets and parcels do not always come by the regular postman. Reminders from TV licence do.
Quote from: grounded on March 08, 2021, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 08, 2021, 01:55:42 PM
Would it not just be easier to just pay the 170 pound and never have to think about it again? ;D
In my case its £160 and Under normal circumstances i'd hold my hands up and pay if i genuinely did something wrong.
However in this case i think they're a shower of gougers. I'd parked in the car park of a retail centre in Newry. I'd spent an hour or two(actually i was dragged along by the missus) shopping in a number of the surrounding shops belonging to it. I went into a restaurant beside it for lunch and came out to see a pcn stuck to the windscreen. It stated i had overstayed the max permitted time. The parking charge notice sticker itself was practically the same as what an official penalty charge notice looks like. Obviously to sucker people into paying.
The two signs displaying this information were tiny, one was positioned way up the wall and i actually couldnt read the writing. The other was hidden behind foliage. I actually took a few photographs at the time.
As well as that, the 'fine' actually its an invoice was grossly disproportionate for the 15 mins or so i'd overstayed.
They sent about 13 or so letters with various threats of court, bailiffs, bad credit ratings etc. The envelopes themselves had plainly visible unpaid debt and debt collection etc to i assume embarass people.
The current one is from a crowd called direct collection balliffs limited certified baliffs and high court enforcement, as seen on tv, can't pay we'll take it away..
They've stated ' at this point you are no longer able to appeal this parking charge, you're next oppurtunity to dispute this charge would be if the matter is taken to court'
In very tiny writing on the back 'this case is not subject to high court or baliff action'
The postage cost of the 13 or 14 letters they've sent is the only silver lining.
That car park is notorious for this, a friend got one and was advised by their solicitor not to acknowledge or correspond with them on the matter.
Interesting case around this in UKSC called Parking Eye v Baevis (2015) sort of the authority in these matters in the UK. SC "made clear on all signage the full parking charge information including the exact costs of recovery."
Friend also told me a case ongoing in UKSC around no signage at entrance means he is arguing his client never aware entering into a valid contract until actually inside car park. Incorporation of terms and conditions of entering into the car park must be done via notice at the front of the car park or building as per Olley v Malborough Court Hotel Ltd [1949] "A prominent public notice which is plain for him to see."
Hope this helps, if it is a UK matter of course :)
Beavis is of no real relevance to Northern Ireland. A considerable number of the statutory provisions discussed therein do not exist here. Moreover and more particularly there is no statutory provision here that would allow the driver of the car to bind the owner of a car here to an enforceable contract (whereas there is in England and Wales). The problem that therefore arises for these parking management companies is that whilst they maybe able to get the details of car owners easily enough they have no power to compel information as to who the driver was. Therefore they are not able to bring a civil claim in Northern Ireland. That's why I always advise people not to respond and certainly never to admit they were driving at the time.
David I bow to your superior legal knowledge after all I have admired your work in the black gown and wig from afar. However is a Supreme Court finding not applicable to all areas of the uk ?
In terms of naming drivers Scotland either has implemented or is about to implement legislation on having to name the driver of car in relation to parking tickets. It maybe something that other devolved parliaments consider.
Both Edinburgh and Glasgow city council have announced in recent days they have written of thousands of pounds in tickets.It is an interesting area
Here is an extract from Edinburgh story:
Edinburgh City Council has written off £1.3m of parking fines, after failing to collect more than 17,000 fixed penalty notices in the last 12 months.
The council also wrote off more than 3,200 fines accrued by motorists using bus lanes in the capital, worth £284,960.
The most common reasons for avoiding fines was due to the car being foreign.
In other cases the DVLA had no record of the vehicle or the owner was found to have no money or assets.
According to a report, due to be presented to councillors at a meeting of the finance committee on Thursday, more than 6,500 of the fines were also written off due to the owners having "gone away".
Quote from: John Egans left boot on March 10, 2021, 10:13:31 AM
David I bow to your superior legal knowledge after all I have admired your work in the black gown and wig from afar. However is a Supreme Court finding not applicable to all areas of the uk ?
In terms of naming drivers Scotland either has implemented or is about to implement legislation on having to name the driver of car in relation to parking tickets. It maybe something that other devolved parliaments consider.
Both Edinburgh and Glasgow city council have announced in recent days they have written of thousands of pounds in tickets.It is an interesting area
Here is an extract from Edinburgh story:
Edinburgh City Council has written off £1.3m of parking fines, after failing to collect more than 17,000 fixed penalty notices in the last 12 months.
The council also wrote off more than 3,200 fines accrued by motorists using bus lanes in the capital, worth £284,960.
The most common reasons for avoiding fines was due to the car being foreign.
In other cases the DVLA had no record of the vehicle or the owner was found to have no money or assets.
According to a report, due to be presented to councillors at a meeting of the finance committee on Thursday, more than 6,500 of the fines were also written off due to the owners having "gone away".
I doubt anyone admires my work but thank you. In answer to your questions technically a Supreme Court judgement in the UK is only binding on the Jurisdiction it originates from although it will be highly persuasive in other jurisdictions providing the legislation (or broadly equivalent legislation) or legal principle applies in the jurisdiction. The legislation being interpreted in Beavis does not exist in Northern Ireland. There is no equivalent to most of the legislation governing penalty clauses that was discussed in Beavis and there's no statutory basis that allows a driver of a car the ability to enter into a contract on behalf of the owner. Nor is there any provision to require an owner to provide the name of a driver for civil proceedings. All of these legislative provisions were crucial in the determination of Beavis. Their absence in Northern Ireland law renders Beavis of no real applicability here.
Quote from: David McKeown on March 12, 2021, 12:07:39 AM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on March 10, 2021, 10:13:31 AM
David I bow to your superior legal knowledge after all I have admired your work in the black gown and wig from afar. However is a Supreme Court finding not applicable to all areas of the uk ?
In terms of naming drivers Scotland either has implemented or is about to implement legislation on having to name the driver of car in relation to parking tickets. It maybe something that other devolved parliaments consider.
Both Edinburgh and Glasgow city council have announced in recent days they have written of thousands of pounds in tickets.It is an interesting area
Here is an extract from Edinburgh story:
Edinburgh City Council has written off £1.3m of parking fines, after failing to collect more than 17,000 fixed penalty notices in the last 12 months.
The council also wrote off more than 3,200 fines accrued by motorists using bus lanes in the capital, worth £284,960.
The most common reasons for avoiding fines was due to the car being foreign.
In other cases the DVLA had no record of the vehicle or the owner was found to have no money or assets.
According to a report, due to be presented to councillors at a meeting of the finance committee on Thursday, more than 6,500 of the fines were also written off due to the owners having "gone away".
I doubt anyone admires my work but thank you. In answer to your questions technically a Supreme Court judgement in the UK is only binding on the Jurisdiction it originates from although it will be highly persuasive in other jurisdictions providing the legislation (or broadly equivalent legislation) or legal principle applies in the jurisdiction. The legislation being interpreted in Beavis does not exist in Northern Ireland. There is no equivalent to most of the legislation governing penalty clauses that was discussed in Beavis and there's no statutory basis that allows a driver of a car the ability to enter into a contract on behalf of the owner. Nor is there any provision to require an owner to provide the name of a driver for civil proceedings. All of these legislative provisions were crucial in the determination of Beavis. Their absence in Northern Ireland law renders Beavis of no real applicability here.
Thanks David.
I should add one of the things that annoys me most about these car parking companies is how they sometimes refer to or quote parts out of Beavis knowing it has little or no applicability in Northern Ireland. It's solely done to scare people. A real bullying tactic.
Quote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PMIs it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Believe it or not they're back. 5 years later at my new address which I assume they got from a recent sweep of the DVA database. Only its a different company now called Direct Collection Baliffs limited. Still threatening court action and all that. Has any of these cases ever actually made it to court in NI?
DCBL are not to be messed with to be honest, they are a sharp set of operators, I did use them a lot to do recoveries for my own business
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 11, 2024, 08:07:00 PMQuote from: Armamike on July 04, 2019, 11:02:28 PMQuote from: RedHand88 on July 04, 2019, 08:34:05 PMIs it still the case where these PCN letters aren't worth the paper they're printed on? Got one in March for Starplan carpark Boucher road belfast. It's a free carpark, but is "customer parking only"
Onto my 3rd letter now. They want £170(!) or it'll go to "QDR Solicitors Ltd".
Just want to be sure ignoring them is the way to deal with them. To hell with paying that sort of money for 30minutes parking. Of course I wasn't the driver at the time and refuse to divulge who was 8)
The letters will keep landing for around a year or so. They'll eventually offer a reduced fee and if you ignore this they'll hike it up again. They'll threaten court action. Few people pay. Ignore and they'll stop eventually.
Believe it or not they're back. 5 years later at my new address which I assume they got from a recent sweep of the DVA database. Only its a different company now called Direct Collection Baliffs limited. Still threatening court action and all that. Has any of these cases ever actually made it to court in NI?
Quote from: Would ye whist on January 12, 2024, 11:08:29 AMDCBL are not to be messed with to be honest, they are a sharp set of operators, I did use them a lot to do recoveries for my own business
Not in NI though? I was told there are no bailiffs here?
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 12, 2024, 12:58:16 PMQuote from: Would ye whist on January 12, 2024, 11:08:29 AMDCBL are not to be messed with to be honest, they are a sharp set of operators, I did use them a lot to do recoveries for my own business
Not in NI though? I was told there are no bailiffs here?
No bailiffs but certainly happy to bombard you with multiple letters and rising the fine each time!