Antrim Football Thread

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?

No, if no one is willing to take the team within the club the committee will look after it or one of the players
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Belfast GAA man

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?

No, if no one is willing to take the team within the club the committee will look after it or one of the players
Exactly - clubs, with no money to pay out, always find a way. That's Why I think the argument that we had noBody is a red herring - they are looking a short Cut to success, tell themselves thry have no-one, and do long term damage

imtommygunn

You'd be going round begging. The club I speak of does that year on year and that is why people get paid from time to time. Many clubs are not doing this to covet success. It's a simplistic view.

Mercenaries and the ones getting the "big guns" are.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2020, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
does anyone think if there were no paid managers Team would fold?

No, if no one is willing to take the team within the club the committee will look after it or one of the players
Exactly - clubs, with no money to pay out, always find a way. That's Why I think the argument that we had noBody is a red herring - they are looking a short Cut to success, tell themselves thry have no-one, and do long term damage

So you'd be happy that the committee looks after the team? Organised training match arrangements and picking a team? Hmmm, interesting
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Belfast GAA man

It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen

Na Glinntí Glasa

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 04:36:02 PM
It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen

thats a good point there.

if your club constantly wants a 'big gun' or an outside coach each year to take the senior team then the expectation amongst players and supporters will always be high. it creates a scenario where other people may not feel good enough to fill those boots and the players will react the same way.

Ive seen it an extent before where players think that a better know person will bring success as opposed to someone who may not come with a name.
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Milltown Row2

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Quote from: Belfast GAA man on April 29, 2020, 04:36:02 PM
It was you MR2 who said the committee would look after the team! They lead the Process of encouraging and cajoling people in club to come together and make a management team, Sometimes people lack confidence to put themselves and then be a Success. If you run to the money men this Will never happen

I wouldn't encourage it by any means, and if you have to cajole someone into the job then you're beat before a ball is struck
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delgany

Senior teams expect to have someone leading a team that knows what they are doing, well organised, tactical, understanding of physical fitness. A person who they respect and look to for inspiration. Some clubs have to look outside their structures in order to achieve that goal.

marty34

Quote from: delgany on April 29, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Senior teams expect to have someone leading a team that knows what they are doing, well organised, tactical, understanding of physical fitness. A person who they respect and look to for inspiration. Some clubs have to look outside their structures in order to achieve that goal.

Problem is players expect too much and won't put in the required hard work and when it goes belly up: the manager is at fault.

Belfast GAA man

Quote from: delgany on April 29, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Senior teams expect to have someone leading a team that knows what they are doing, well organised, tactical, understanding of physical fitness. A person who they respect and look to for inspiration. Some clubs have to look outside their structures in order to achieve that goal.
Paid doesn't mean good and not paid mean bad - the most successful team in recent History is St Galls had all their own lads in and made their success all the better

delgany

From reading the different county groups , managers who are getting paid and dont cut the mustard,  get the P45 swiftly enough.

Square Ball

Quote from: hardstation on April 30, 2020, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 30, 2020, 03:25:50 PM
From reading the different county groups , managers who are getting paid and dont cut the mustard,  get the P45 swiftly enough.
And generally find some other bunch of mugs ready to pay them for another year.

It's a managerial roundabout, once your on it it's hard to get off it. Plenty of managers have been about different counties, achieved Nanda but keep being hired.
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imtommygunn

In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
In antrim football there aren't really that many clubs with these kind of boys though. There are only a handful of clubs with that kind of money.

It's generally not clubs that pay it though, usually a well off clubman
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imtommygunn

I still really don't think there are that many in antrim who'd be paying that much. There is a lot lot more money about tyrone and derry football than there would be in antrim.