China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM


sid waddell

Quote from: five points on May 22, 2020, 03:49:59 PM
The first person to go to jail should be Ferguson.
Are you right in the head?

sid waddell

Quote from: Taylor on May 22, 2020, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: five points on May 22, 2020, 03:12:02 PM
It seems obvious to me that the serial scaremonger Prof Neil Ferguson, with his faulty modelling, scared them into a lockdown from which they're now struggling to escape.  Given his pathetic record with previous forecasts, Ferguson should never been let near Imperial College let alone Downing Street.

It also seems obvious to me that the lockdown was a huge mistake, not least because they spent a lot of resources and time organising it when the focus should have been on PPE and basic organisation in care homes.

Now they've the worst of both words.

But surely the lockdown saved 1000's of lives?
Thats is why we are over the first peak.

No lockdown means it would keep spreading
Let's get one thing clear as day. Lockdowns save lives.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html?referringSource=articleShare

imtommygunn

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 22, 2020, 11:50:42 PM
Cummings breaking the lockdown and who's the first puppet to defend him.... Kuensberg. She is one pathetic individual.

Seems like  a tory puppet. The lockdown had to be done. Don't understand how anyone can think otherwise.


five points

Quote from: sid waddell on May 23, 2020, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: Taylor on May 22, 2020, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: five points on May 22, 2020, 03:12:02 PM
It seems obvious to me that the serial scaremonger Prof Neil Ferguson, with his faulty modelling, scared them into a lockdown from which they're now struggling to escape.  Given his pathetic record with previous forecasts, Ferguson should never been let near Imperial College let alone Downing Street.

It also seems obvious to me that the lockdown was a huge mistake, not least because they spent a lot of resources and time organising it when the focus should have been on PPE and basic organisation in care homes.

Now they've the worst of both words.

But surely the lockdown saved 1000's of lives?
Thats is why we are over the first peak.

No lockdown means it would keep spreading
Let's get one thing clear as day. Lockdowns save lives.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html?referringSource=articleShare

Do explain Sid. In your own words. A link to someone else's "study" and an oul graph don't really cut it. The world is full of those.

Smurfy123

Lockdown has saved lives but how many we do not know. People need to realise lockdown was needed but now it's not. The surge didn't come. Never was going to come. The scenes in Italy scared us all. It's time to open up. Leo needs to put a stamp on things before he flies in a week or so. Michael Martin would not fill us with much confidence mind you. 290 people in all settings in hospital the the South of Ireland. Seriously what is the hold up with opening things. Yes we are going to see spikes but hospitals are now prepared. Lockdown needs to end. Everyone coming into Ireland from next Thursday needs to quarantine for 14 days or face a €2500 fine. Good call that. Even more reason to open up our island. Pubs not open to August. Come on what's that about.

sid waddell

Quote from: five points on May 23, 2020, 09:12:10 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on May 23, 2020, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: Taylor on May 22, 2020, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: five points on May 22, 2020, 03:12:02 PM
It seems obvious to me that the serial scaremonger Prof Neil Ferguson, with his faulty modelling, scared them into a lockdown from which they're now struggling to escape.  Given his pathetic record with previous forecasts, Ferguson should never been let near Imperial College let alone Downing Street.

It also seems obvious to me that the lockdown was a huge mistake, not least because they spent a lot of resources and time organising it when the focus should have been on PPE and basic organisation in care homes.

Now they've the worst of both words.

But surely the lockdown saved 1000's of lives?
Thats is why we are over the first peak.

No lockdown means it would keep spreading
Let's get one thing clear as day. Lockdowns save lives.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html?referringSource=articleShare

Do explain Sid. In your own words. A link to someone else's "study" and an oul graph don't really cut it. The world is full of those.
You think the raimeis you've offered on this thread "cuts it"?

This is an extremely serious virus which kills people in large numbers if left to spread unimpeded.

None of this is difficult to understand.


Smurfy123

As is cancer Sid which has sadly been put in the back burner. The flu kills people. Diabetes kills people. Depression kills people
Let's reopen things

sid waddell

Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 22, 2020, 11:57:37 PM
Keunsburg has went down in my estimation during this. Very poor
Cummings what a joke.
The absolute shit show continues
A complete mess from the start and it continues
If Kuennsberg has fallen in your estimation during Coronavirus, you weren't paying attention to what she was doing previously.

The way she has carried on during this is of a piece with her entire career.

There's a reason people call her Laura Riefenstahl. 

sid waddell

Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 23, 2020, 11:04:55 AM
As is cancer Sid which has sadly been put in the back burner. The flu kills people. Diabetes kills people. Depression kills people
Let's reopen things
Jesus wept.

Smurfy123

What's wrong Sid? My opinion not suit your narrative? Jesus wept as if you know all.
Open up now

mouview

Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 23, 2020, 11:04:55 AM
As is cancer Sid which has sadly been put in the back burner. The flu kills people. Diabetes kills people. Depression kills people
Let's reopen things

Bar the flu', none of the others are contagious, and all can be combated or alleviated to an extent by known medical treatments or procedures. Covid-19 is highly virulent, can be fatal, especially to those who are vulnerable or whose health is compromised, and no cure or vaccine has yet been discovered for it. The Black Plague only disappeared when enough people isolated themselves from those that carried it.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 23, 2020, 10:47:24 AMSeriously what is the hold up with opening things.

The longer the spread is diminishing, the far smaller any potential uptick after reopening - which allows time to get it contained.

Exponential growth has a cousin... exponential decay.
i usse an speelchekor

armaghniac

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 23, 2020, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 23, 2020, 10:47:24 AMSeriously what is the hold up with opening things.

The longer the spread is diminishing, the far smaller any potential uptick after reopening - which allows time to get it contained.

Exponential growth has a cousin... exponential decay.

The objective of the lockdown to reduce the numbers greatly. Then lesser measures can keep those numbers low and if there is a second wave it starts from a low base. The SMurfy123's of this world want to relax the lockdown and proceed with muich higher numbers becasue they are too impatient to wait a week.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B