The IRISH RUGBY thread

Started by Donnellys Hollow, October 27, 2009, 05:26:16 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

Why you getting so wound up about it for? You seem awfully annoyed at a sport you don't like. I don't like cricket or hurling or golf so I don't really pay that much remarks on what's happening in those sports.

The contrary. I'm merely pointing out the realities of the matter and people are getting very hot under the collar about putting the contrived "achievements" into perspective. The rugby side won a friendly match.

lenny

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

JoG2

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
November test Internationals, played every year. Southern Hemisphere teams play 3 tests against the Northern Hemisphere teams.

Northern hemisphere teams tour the Southern hemisphere during the summer. Pretty rare a team from the South is beaten on home soil

What competition is it?

Are you incapable of reading?

I'm capable of reading alright but that's not a competition.

Now what competition did the West British rugby team win a game in yesterday?

Your republican and the true Gael credentials have been boosted greatly by your valiant and patriotic use of the term 'West British rugby team'. Pearse would be proud, as 100 years after his death people still rail against the scoundrels he wrote about in Mise Éire by rubbishing the achievements of a 32 county sports team.

I'm sure his heart would be filled with joy listening to a pub song written by the son of a peeler being used instead of the national anthem in a game played almost solely by ex commonwealth nations.

I hate that piece of rubbish myself but it's not a valid reason to completely rubbish the achievements of the team. The game clearly has importance, it's hardly a club pre-season challenge match on a wet February evening.

It's not far off.

It's only a match and nothing more which is why I can't understand the fuss over the result.

Ach dry your eyes ffs. Ask the wife / husband / partner for a bit of attention and stay clear of a thread you've no interest in.  Job done

I'm just pointing out a few truths.

More in line for certain posters to take these points on board rather than being hypersensitive over someone dealing with the realities.

No no,  your 'truths'  are merely opinions.  You are trolling for a reaction and getting it,  then moaning about getting said reaction.  Mid manopause per chance?

square_ball

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

Why you getting so wound up about it for? You seem awfully annoyed at a sport you don't like. I don't like cricket or hurling or golf so I don't really pay that much remarks on what's happening in those sports.

The contrary. I'm merely pointing out the realities of the matter and people are getting very hot under the collar about putting the contrived "achievements" into perspective. The rugby side won a friendly match.

Oh aye of course you are! But like I say whatever floats your boat . . .

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 06, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
November test Internationals, played every year. Southern Hemisphere teams play 3 tests against the Northern Hemisphere teams.

Northern hemisphere teams tour the Southern hemisphere during the summer. Pretty rare a team from the South is beaten on home soil

What competition is it?

Are you incapable of reading?

I'm capable of reading alright but that's not a competition.

Now what competition did the West British rugby team win a game in yesterday?

Your republican and the true Gael credentials have been boosted greatly by your valiant and patriotic use of the term 'West British rugby team'. Pearse would be proud, as 100 years after his death people still rail against the scoundrels he wrote about in Mise Éire by rubbishing the achievements of a 32 county sports team.

I'm sure his heart would be filled with joy listening to a pub song written by the son of a peeler being used instead of the national anthem in a game played almost solely by ex commonwealth nations.

I hate that piece of rubbish myself but it's not a valid reason to completely rubbish the achievements of the team. The game clearly has importance, it's hardly a club pre-season challenge match on a wet February evening.

It's not far off.

It's only a match and nothing more which is why I can't understand the fuss over the result.

Ach dry your eyes ffs. Ask the wife / husband / partner for a bit of attention and stay clear of a thread you've no interest in.  Job done

I'm just pointing out a few truths.

More in line for certain posters to take these points on board rather than being hypersensitive over someone dealing with the realities.

No no,  your 'truths'  are merely opinions.  You are trolling for a reaction and getting it,  then moaning about getting said reaction.  Mid manopause per chance?
[/quote

They are not opinions, they are facts which is why nobody has yet been able to clarify what competition the rugby team won a game in last night. It's fine if it made you happy but don't be getting offended when the realities of the situation diminish the actual achievement.

OgraAnDun

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

You also have to qualify for the RWC. It's decided by world ranking for the most part. Guess how rankings are decided? Test matches such as the November Internationals.

lenny

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Il Bomber Destro

#4493
Quote from: OgraAnDun on November 06, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

You also have to qualify for the RWC. It's decided by world ranking for the most part. Guess how rankings are decided? Test matches such as the November Internationals.

Football rankings are decided by friendly matches too. The problem rugby has is it is a niche sport, pretty much only taken seriously by commonwealth and ex-commonwealth countries and France.

Yesterday's match was a non-competitive match, a  "friendly".

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

You're a strange one, belittling competitive wins of a substantive nature in a global sport yet putting a win in a non-competitive fixture over one of the other participants in a niche sports as one of the nation's greatest sporting achievements.

lenny

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

You're a strange one, belittling competitive wins of a substantive nature in a global sport yet putting a win in a non-competitive fixture over one of the other participants in a niche sports as one of the nation's greatest sporting achievements.

I presume you then think of hurling as a niche sport as only about 8 teams really take it seriously and are competitive at it.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

You're a strange one, belittling competitive wins of a substantive nature in a global sport yet putting a win in a non-competitive fixture over one of the other participants in a niche sports as one of the nation's greatest sporting achievements.

I presume you then think of hurling as a niche sport as only about 8 teams really take it seriously and are competitive at it.

I do.

JoG2


lenny

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2016, 06:39:24 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 06, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 06, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
I have to laugh at these ones that don't like rugby (which they have every right it's not everyone's cup of tea) are the ones getting most annoyed at this victory. If you don't like something just don't pass any remarks on it instead of getting a wee kick in your life by winding people up on a discussion forum. But whatever floats your boat I guess. . .

I find it odd that people are celebrating winning a non-competitive game like they have won the World Cup. I have to laugh at these people who treat the result as some sort of seismic moment in their sport, maybe it's telling of what matters in a niche game. A proper sport would not have an eyelid batted at such a trivial matter.

It's undeniably one of Ireland's greatest successes in any sport. It's obviously sad that you're not feeling that but the rest of us are on a high and are going to enjoy it.

Winning a friendly is one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements?

The soccer team beat the World Champions in a competitive game last year, this is a global game and was a crucial result for the side in qualifying for a major competition.

Such is the mass appeal of football, you actually have to qualify for the major Championships - something three of the previous 6 champions failed to for Euro 2016 even when the competition was extended.

The nature of soccer means that an inferior team can occasionally beat a much better team which is what happened when ireland luckily beat germany. It was a freak result with ireland having very little of the ball and their goal leading a charmed life. The difference with this result is that we beat the world champions in a test match and it wasn't a fluke. Ireland's stats re possession, tackling, turnovers etc were all up there and better in most cases with new zealands. This was truly a performance and victory to be proud of.

Ireland beating Germany was not a fluke.

You're a strange one, belittling competitive wins of a substantive nature in a global sport yet putting a win in a non-competitive fixture over one of the other participants in a niche sports as one of the nation's greatest sporting achievements.

I presume you then think of hurling as a niche sport as only about 8 teams really take it seriously and are competitive at it.

I do.

What about aussie rules and american football? They have no international dimension, a limited,relatively small number of teams who automatically qualify each year to play in their competitions. What about gaelic football? Again each of the teams automatically qualify to play in their competition and there are a small number of teams who are really competitive. In fact do you think soccer is the only sport which isn't a niche sport?

grounded

I thought CJ, Henshaw and Connor Murray were outstanding. I think for Irish Rugby, the importance of that win cannot be underestimated. I'm sure like me when New Zealand came back at ireland in the 2nd half you had that sinking feeling that they would nick the game and we would fold. Well not this time! I also loved the figure 8 for Anthony Foley at the start.