Middle East landscape rapidly changing

Started by give her dixie, January 25, 2011, 02:05:36 PM

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Eamonnca1

Trump has declined to appear on TV tonight. Probably too busy watching telly to appear on it.

Taylor

Was expecting a cyber attack rather than a military attack.

Hopefully this will be the end of it however that is unlikely if there are any US casualties.

MoChara

Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
Was expecting a cyber attack rather than a military attack.

Hopefully this will be the end of it however that is unlikely if there are any US casualties.

No US casualties reported so far, maybe planned so Iran can say they struck back and the US are forced to further retaliate. Hopefully.

OgraAnDun

Quote from: MoChara on January 08, 2020, 09:06:36 AM
Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
Was expecting a cyber attack rather than a military attack.

Hopefully this will be the end of it however that is unlikely if there are any US casualties.

No US casualties reported so far, maybe planned so Iran can say they struck back and the US are forced to further retaliate. Hopefully.

I doubt the US would admit to many/any casualties even if there are any.

MoChara

Quote from: OgraAnDun on January 08, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: MoChara on January 08, 2020, 09:06:36 AM
Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
Was expecting a cyber attack rather than a military attack.

Hopefully this will be the end of it however that is unlikely if there are any US casualties.

No US casualties reported so far, maybe planned so Iran can say they struck back and the US are forced to further retaliate. Hopefully.

I doubt the US would admit to many/any casualties even if there are any.

Think there were fore warned to get out of the way anyhow but you're right just like all the Brit soldiers that died in Road Traffic accidents in Germany during the troubles.

johnnycool

Quote from: MoChara on January 08, 2020, 09:53:45 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on January 08, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: MoChara on January 08, 2020, 09:06:36 AM
Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
Was expecting a cyber attack rather than a military attack.

Hopefully this will be the end of it however that is unlikely if there are any US casualties.

No US casualties reported so far, maybe planned so Iran can say they struck back and the US are forced to further retaliate. Hopefully.

I doubt the US would admit to many/any casualties even if there are any.

Think there were fore warned to get out of the way anyhow but you're right just like all the Brit soldiers that died in Road Traffic accidents in Germany during the troubles.

The general thinking is that Iranian GPS guided missiles were hitting parts of this huge base where they knew fatalities would be low to none.

A chance for both sides to save face but you never know what that idiot in the white house will do next.

Iraq now want the US out of their country. I wonder how that will go.......

playwiththewind1st

It will go OK, once POTUS has turned the place into a golf course.

Hound

A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

Taylor

Quote from: Hound on January 08, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

And Iran wont hand over the black box.

Definitely coincidence  :-\

Hound

Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 08, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

And Iran wont hand over the black box.

Definitely coincidence  :-\

Nationalities of dead confirmed by Ukraine officials:

82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, 11 Ukrainians (including all of the crew), 10 Swedes, four Afghans, three British and three Germans.

Keyser soze

Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 08, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

And Iran wont hand over the black box.

Definitely coincidence  :-\

Hand it over to?

Taylor

Quote from: Keyser soze on January 08, 2020, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 08, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

And Iran wont hand over the black box.

Definitely coincidence  :-\

Hand it over to?

Boeing

RedHand88

Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 08, 2020, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 08, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

And Iran wont hand over the black box.

Definitely coincidence  :-\

Hand it over to?

Boeing

The same day they were playing toy soldiers with their missile strikes. I wonder why.

Hound

Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on January 08, 2020, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: Taylor on January 08, 2020, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 08, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
A Boeing plane crashes shortly after leaving Tehran en route to Ukraine, killing all 170+ onboard.

Is that just an extraordinary awful coincidence?

And Iran wont hand over the black box.

Definitely coincidence  :-\

Hand it over to?

Boeing
I think most countries would not trust Boeing to perform an independent assessment of why their own plane went down. An aviation authority should be doing the investigation, albeit allowing Boeing access to all the information, but not control of it.

For the Ethiopian Airlines crash, Boeing offered to do the investigation with the aid of US aviation authorities. The Ethiopians instead asked the French to lead the investigation.

Of course, the Iranians carrying out the investigation by themselves would not be satisfactory.

From reading accounts, the engine caught fire suddenly and the pilots did not radio/signal any emergencies. There could be a myriad of different reasons for the crash. My money would be on a rocket, accidentally fired by the Iranians. It would be some coincidence that a mechanical accident happened on this night of all nights (especially with no emergency broadcasts) and it doesn't make any sense that anyone would have taken this "target" out on purpose.