Man Utd Thread:

[magpie seanie]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

I can only assume you mean "the guys who played full back last night"? Neither of whom is a full back or first choice.

May seem nuts but a few months of Zlatan may be no harm but badly need a stop gap player or two in January. I'm satisfied with the process except the squad is too thin numbers wise and there's no proven goalscorer. The hysteria that surrounds every game makes it very difficult.

[oakleaflad]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

[Look-Up!]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

I can only assume you mean "the guys who played full back last night"? Neither of whom is a full back or first choice.

May seem nuts but a few months of Zlatan may be no harm but badly need a stop gap player or two in January. I'm satisfied with the process except the squad is too thin numbers wise and there's no proven goalscorer. The hysteria that surrounds every game makes it very difficult.

That's been the same old story at Utd for a long time now not just at full back. They need to buy.

[Look-Up!]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

Because he is the marquee name there, most experienced and accomplished player and highest earner. Happy to stick his chest out in social media too to air his grievances. But the only reason I recognized he was playing last night was because of his haircut. Sums him up.
He'll show quality in patches over the season and will get great reviews (justifiably) in some games but he his not a leader and will go missing in at least 10 games a season. They need more from him at the moment both the club and younger players there.

[oakleaflad]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

Because he is the marquee name there, most experienced and accomplished player and highest earner. Happy to stick his chest out in social media too to air his grievances. But the only reason I recognized he was playing last night was because of his haircut. Sums him up.
He'll show quality in patches over the season and will get great reviews (justifiably) in some games but he his not a leader and will go missing in at least 10 games a season. They need more from him at the moment both the club and younger players there.

He is their best midfielder (not saying a lot at the moment) and isn't perfect. Your analysis is probably accurate in that he could and should be doing better but Mata, Matic, Lingard, Pereira and Fred all deserve criticism before Pogba in my opinion and that's only the midfielders. The likes of Young and Rashford have been piss poor too. He is an easy target because he is French and has a different haircut.

[magpie seanie]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

Because he is the marquee name there, most experienced and accomplished player and highest earner. Happy to stick his chest out in social media too to air his grievances. But the only reason I recognized he was playing last night was because of his haircut. Sums him up.
He'll show quality in patches over the season and will get great reviews (justifiably) in some games but he his not a leader and will go missing in at least 10 games a season. They need more from him at the moment both the club and younger players there.

All players can't be leaders. He was good enough to star in a World Cup winning team. He gets scapegoated because he seems to be a bit of a tool but the issue here is that he has been asked to do things that he's not capable of. He'll be awesome in a team with a few solid leaders around him but you might as well criticise him for not having a baby as not being a leader - it's just not in him.

[Cunny Funt]

Pogba might show more if he was played in a more advanced role. At moment he's used as CDM and he no more wants to play there or is capable of playing such a role.  Pereira again played as winger and Lingard as the number 10 which is total waste of time. Rushing a injured and out of form Rashford back and starting him instead of Greenwood made little sense.

United at home to Arsenal with one of the most ropey defences in the PL played a with cautious and cagey approach to the game and their only goal came from a counter attack. It was Jose like tactics and game plan.  I'm not fully sure what has happened to the vision Ole had for his team, which was meant to be  high energy,pressing and attacking team. 

Yes i know the pressure is increasing with each game where more points are dropped but If he continues to set his teams up like this and chooses to put square pegs in round holes there will be no "resetting" to be done as  he will get sacked before the end of the season.

[screenexile]

I don't particularly like him and thought he was a disgrace on the Off the Ball show in Dublin but couldn't stop listening to Keane the way he was talking last night. . . he was excellent in everything he said and it was very insightful and a glimpse into the way he thought when playing football. He should be like that more!!

Utd were muck last night especially Pogba!

[Look-Up!]

I don't particularly like him and thought he was a disgrace on the Off the Ball show in Dublin but couldn't stop listening to Keane the way he was talking last night. . . he was excellent in everything he said and it was very insightful and a glimpse into the way he thought when playing football. He should be like that more!!

Utd were muck last night especially Pogba!

I enjoyed what he said too. He was very green and raw coming from Forest looking back but blossomed under the professionalism there and learned a lot from the established pros within the team. You could say he got whipped into shape. You'd wonder how a young Keane would do coming into this Utd squad. Could very well get frustrated with the negativity, make headlines off the pitch, go off the rails and pick up a bucket full of red cards before being moved on after a couple of seasons.

[Boycey]

Why should Pogba get more criticism that the other United midfielders? I'll tell you why cause he's better than them (or should be anyways) Matic and Mata are really good pros but on the wane particularly Matic. McTominey, Pereira or any other of the young lads may not be and may never be good enough for United but they'll leave it out there every day, will Pogba?

He's been agitating for a move and will again I'm sure, unless nobody comes for him and then he'll sign a new bumper contract and show some desire at least briefly. Is he a leader? He's certainly the leader of the poison dressing room so why not on the field?

He's a supremely talented footballer or could be if he could be arsed. I don't think he starred in the World Cup other than one game, can't remember which, but the fact that he played in a Cup winning team says all you need to know about him.

[BennyCake]

Why is Pogba still there?

He clearly didn't want to be there last season. He was itching for a move, stirring the pot and fans were clearly fed up with his attitude and poor performances, as displayed after the final league game.

Does none of the big European clubs want him, rate him or can't afford him? What's the story? I would've put any money I had on him not being at United this season.

[Hound]

Why is Pogba still there?

He clearly didn't want to be there last season. He was itching for a move, stirring the pot and fans were clearly fed up with his attitude and poor performances, as displayed after the final league game.

Does none of the big European clubs want him, rate him or can't afford him? What's the story? I would've put any money I had on him not being at United this season.

Zidane wanted him for Real. Clubs were miles apart on price.

[Cunny Funt]

Why is Pogba still there?

He clearly didn’t want to be there last season. He was itching for a move, stirring the pot and fans were clearly fed up with his attitude and poor performances, as displayed after the final league game.

Does none of the big European clubs want him, rate him or can’t afford him? What’s the story? I would’ve put any money I had on him not being at United this season.

Zidane wanted him for Real. Clubs were miles apart on price.

Because Real wanted to get one the worlds most marketable players at a cut price.

If United had owners and chief executive who run a club to make them better on the field. Pobga would be sold last summer and midfielder and striker would be brought in on Pogbas transfer fee alone.

[Maroon Manc]

Nothing surprising about the quality of the game, Tuanzebe did well apart from his mistake for the goal and is now first choice back up to Maguire & Lindelof and given the form of the later it might not be too long before he's first choice. Young again was dreadful, he's finished and has now become a major liability. Rashford & Lingard lacking in confidence although Rashford doesn't look fit, Pereira who doesn't look good enough had started to play his best football of the season before he was taken off.

As for Pogba he was very average, didn't look interested to me and thats not the first time thats happened. As it stands he wants out and doesn't look happy but its a long time between now and the end of the season and things can change. A big problem is that he's the clubs only huge name and sponsors want to see plenty of big names at the club for obvious reasons.

[Hound]

Nothing surprising about the quality of the game, Tuanzebe did well apart from his mistake for the goal and is now first choice back up to Maguire & Lindelof and given the form of the later it might not be too long before he's first choice. Young again was dreadful, he's finished and has now become a major liability. Rashford & Lingard lacking in confidence although Rashford doesn't look fit, Pereira who doesn't look good enough had started to play his best football of the season before he was taken off.

As for Pogba he was very average, didn't look interested to me and thats not the first time thats happened. As it stands he wants out and doesn't look happy but its a long time between now and the end of the season and things can change. A big problem is that he's the clubs only huge name and sponsors want to see plenty of big names at the club for obvious reasons.

What do you think of James?

I thought he looked really exciting. The energy and enthusiasm he has is in stark contrast to most of the rest of the midfield/forwards. When the Arsenal full back got booked early, it looked an obvious ploy to just get the ball to James early and often to go at him. But just didnt happen.