The Many Faces of US Politics...

[sid waddell]

Again you're totally obfuscating

That's my privilege. I can answer if and when I want. Or I can ignore you. This is not an interrogation.


It is your privilege but it's a discussion forum - generally people obfuscate when they've been asked questions they don't want to answer because they can't stand over their views

In your opinion, was Biden wrong to deliver a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral?

Yes

I would agree - but in my view he did the wrong thing for the right reasons - he did it out of kindness - that doesn't mean I think he was right

If so, why?

I've said why.

Have you? I haven't seen where? Could you reiterate, reference or or copy and paste where you have done this?

If you don't believe so, why bring it up?

I've told you why I brought it up.

Again, where?

Do you disagree with AOC's stance on race matters? If so, how?

I consider her a race baiter and race hustler.  I'm not asking you to agree.

How exactly is she a "race baiter"? What is a race baiter? Do you believe the predominant ideology of the Republican party is of "race baiting"? Or outright racism?

Why should any public statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy, and which which thus celebrate slavery, remain standing, or in official use?

That's not up to me to decide.

It isn't up to you decide but it wouldn't trouble you too much to give an opinion, especially given that you have previously implied or stated that not all Confederate statues and symbols should be removed from official use

Did you, on November 9th, 1989, when you presumably watched the pictures of people in Berlin drilling and hammering the Berlin Wall, say to yourself, "oh this is wrong, they should be going through the proper channels"?

I can't even remember where I was that night. Can you? I probably didn't say that to myself but I'd like to think that I've informed my opinion on many topics over the past 31 years. Maybe your opinions on our built and natural environment have been frozen since 1989?

Yes I can, I was watching the television in my front room, and it felt like we were watching something wonderful in history

People knocking down the Berlin Wall that night did not "go through the proper channels" - they took matters into their own hands, literally - I was lucky enough that I got to hammer out a small piece of it myself the following July when I visited Berlin, I still have it somewhere

Small parts of the Berlin Wall do indeed remain, by the way

[whitey]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

[five points]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

They'll probably be all for it, just as they'd be for knocking statues of nuns and priests today.

[sid waddell]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

[whitey]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

[sid waddell]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

[whitey]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they don't

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist

[J70]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

[whitey]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

Why do they need to be defined?

[sid waddell]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they don't

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist

You think Sinn Fein are Marxist?

Right

You really have been gone from Ireland a long time, haven't you

Marxism is a legitimate political ideology, by the way

Slavery isn't

[sid waddell]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

"whitey's" post here is defending political corectness

He is saying that there should be no debate over removing statues - that those who want them removed should be silenced

That's exactly what political correctness is

[whitey]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they don't

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist

You think Sinn Fein are Marxist?

Right

You really have been gone from Ireland a long time, haven't you

Marxism is a legitimate political ideology, by the way

Slavery isn't

I'm sure the tens of millions who perished in the Gulags would respectfully disagree with you

[J70]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

Why do they need to be defined?

Because you seem to imply the statues are now controversial because some single individual just decided out of the blue one day that they were an issue to be inflicted on the "people".

Is that an incorrect interpretation?

I also like you lump reconciliation and political correctness in together. Is reconciliation illegitimate?

[whitey]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

Define "someone" and "people".

"whitey's" post here is defending political corectness

He is saying that there should be no debate over statues

That's exactly what political correctness is

No-I'm relishing the day when those who use PC to score political points have it turned back on them

[sid waddell]

So in 50 years time, when someone decides that monuments to the Troubles and the Hunger Strikers are now offensive, how will people feel about their forced removal in the name of reconciliation and political correctness?

You're obfuscating and deciding to remove all critical thinking

By far the most appropriate comparison to official statues and symbols which celebrate the Confederacy are official statues and symbols which celebrated Nazism

Do you think official statues and symbols which celebrate Nazism should be still in use?

Political correctness is overwhelmingly a right wing phenomenon

Republicans are Marxists....nothing to do with Hitler

Irish Republicans come from all sorts of political standpoints

US Republicans who are against the removal of Confederate statues and symbols are defending the celebration of an ideology which would be very close to that of Hitler

No they don't

Irish Republicans are overwhelmingly socialist and Marxist

You think Sinn Fein are Marxist?

Right

You really have been gone from Ireland a long time, haven't you

Marxism is a legitimate political ideology, by the way

Slavery isn't

I'm sure the tens of millions who perished in the Gulags would respectfully disagree with you

Slavery and Marxist ideology are entirely separate things

Slavery and the Confederacy are indivisible

The Condfederacy existed in order to maintain slavery

Those who argue who for Conferderate statues and symbols to remain standing are arguing in favour of the celebration of slavery

That is not a legitimate ideology