Armagh Club football & hurling

[Applesisapples]

Lads, are Cross consistently participating in 'A'/Grade 1/Division 1 U-12, U-14, U-16 and Minor Finals within Armagh?

Finals at underage level are a bit more evenly spread out. Cross have a system though of bringing at least 3-4 players through from underage each year which keeps it ticking over

very true cross are competing at grade 1/a what ever way you want to put it at all under-age levels, you can talk about attitude etc but what they have done, is created a Culture, they have a blueprint for all the teams to follow from under-age right up to senior, so no matter if they are winning leagues or championships at under-age every team is still producing 3/4 players every year that are military trained in their style of play, its almost being like born into Catholicism, its bred into them. players are warned of their off-field activities, everything is about the club. they have the same man at u16 for 10 odd years. they have become the gold standard. how many other teams/clubs would have left a player of aaron kernans ability on the bench for a championship semi-final because he hadnt trained the week before it, you either do it the cross way or your out on ur arse, and it doesnt matter who u ar!!!


as regards the harps, 5 minors in 9 years is a great achievement, throw in an u21 title as well, but heres the problem, too many players and i include myself in this havent had the balls/commitment to really make a difference, the lure of a pint and a nights craic was my problem, i always took the easy option, our 03 team which won the ulster club as well, nippy, vernon, smackers, wee joe and simon lennon are the only ones that spring to mind still playing senior football.

IMO we need to have a structure in place from underage to senior, the talent is undoubtedly there, as in the ogs and other clubs, so to really compete other clubs need make hard decisions and get the ball rolling...

the ogs may sneak the odd champioship, harps are 3/4 years from the 09 team, congrats to the nab on the improvement lads and keep the heads up cross have done that to many teams, the template is there for all the clubs and the barometer is cross, how many will step up...

Precisely.

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BREAKFAST WITH THE ALL IRELAND CLUB CHAMPIONS IN CROSSMAGLEN RANGERS HALL TOMORROW SUNDAY 23RD OCTOBER 9.30 AM TO 12.30 PM.  ADULTS £5 CHILDREN £3.

EVERYONE WELCOME

[Milltown Row2]

See you there

[crossfire]

See you there

Hope you enjoy it better than your last visit.

[Orior]

Anyone know how Armagh faired against Cavan today?

[Carbery]

Anyone know how Armagh faired against Cavan today?

Fitzsimons Cup: Armagh overcome Cavan
23 October 2011

Armagh 3-11
Cavan 1-16

Armagh overcame the challenge of Cavan in the Fitszimons Cup, a senior intercounty football competition organised by the Gaeil Colmcille club, at a wet Pairc Tailteann.

Mickey Brennan put Cavan on the scoreboard first and after ten minutes the Breffni men led 0-4 to 0-0. Armagh's opening score was a well taken goal from half foward Sean Moore. The accurate free taking of Cavan full foward Ray Galligan and some fine scores from Brennan and Niall McDermott insured that the led at the break 0-9 to 1-4.

Galligan put more daylight between the sides when he flicked a Dane O'Dowd pass to the Armagh net to leave the score 1-9 to 1-4. But Armagh battled hard to get back into the game and a goal from Eugene McVerry left the minimum between the sides.Points from half backs Mark Shields, Aidan Forker and Michael Stevenson brought Armagh to within a point again 2-8 to 1-12. A second goal from McVerry had Paddy O'Rourke's men ahead 3-8 to 1-13 with ten minutes left. A Galligan free levelled the match 1-14 to 3-8. But Armagh finished the stronger and points from Brian Mallon and substitutes Paul Carville and Conor White put the Orchard County men into the final where they will met Meath.

Armagh: Ryan Magennis, David Lavery, Declan McKenna, Adrian Conlon, Mark Shields (0-1), Aidan Forker (0-1), Michael Stevenson (0-1), James Donnelly, James Lavery, Pauric Gribben, Brian Mallon (0-1), Sean Moore (1-1), Eugene McVerry (2-0), Stefan Forker(0-3), Stefan Campbell.
Subs: Sean Hughes, Ryan Rafferty, Paul Carvill (0-2), Conor White (0-1)

Cavan: Fintan Reilly, Oisin Minagh, Sean McCormack, Daragh Tighe, Barry Watters, Joey Jordan, Dane O'Dowd, Ray Cullivan, Declan McKiernan, Stephen Jordan, Declan Meehan, Michael Brennan (0-3), Niall McDermott (0-2), Ray Galligan (1-10), Conor McClarry (0-1).
Subs: Barry Tully and Kieran Galligan

Referee Joey Curley Meath

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[Orior]

Next Question - where are those boys from?

Ryan Magennis
David Lavery
Declan McKenna - Harps
Adrian Conlon
Mark Shields
Aidan Forker - Maghery?
Michael Stevenson - Sarsfields?
James Donnelly
James Lavery - Maghery
Pauric Gribben
Brian Mallon - Tir na Og
Sean Moore
Eugene McVerry - Mullaghbawn?
Stefan Forker - Maghery
Stefan Campbell

Subs: Sean Hughes, Ryan Rafferty, Paul Carvill, Conor White

[mountainboii]

Next Question - where are those boys from?

Ryan Magennis - Clans?
David Lavery - Maghery?
Declan McKenna - Harps
Adrian Conlon Tullysaran?
Mark Shields - Whitecross
Aidan Forker - Maghery?
Michael Stevenson - Sarsfields?
James Donnelly - Killeavy
James Lavery - Maghery
Pauric Gribben - Ballymacnab
Brian Mallon - Tir na Og
Sean Moore - Ogs
Eugene McVerry - Mullaghbawn?
Stefan Forker - Maghery
Stefan Campbell - Clans

Subs: Sean Hughes - Ballymacnab?, Ryan Rafferty - Granemore, Paul Carvill - Tir na Og?, Conor White - Harps

[Midman]

PS congratulations to the Middletown Hurlers, Ulster Intermediate champions!

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156918

[RealSpiritof98]

PS congratulations to the Middletown Hurlers, Ulster Intermediate champions!

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156918

Great achievement, They have wiped the floor with everyone this year, Anyone know what they'll be up against in the semi's.

Middletown were traditionally strong up the middle and would get you into a dog eat dog battle and grind you down, but this team is full of quality skillfull hurlers that can do a lot of damage, and the majority of them are 19-25 bracket.

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TO TACADOIRARDMHACHA

Re your post of 17th Oct

Your point that our success is as a result of a superb batch of players coming along at the same time is quite a valid one although it is hardly a coincidence that this is the second batch of superb players that have come along in the past 15 years.

Your earlier assertion in the same post that our success was in some way due to the population of Cross and the absence of other sports is rather simplistic.
Cross has a population of 1800 and has had a soccer team ( Cartwheel United ) for the past 25 years.

In County Monaghan towns of similar size and population, Carrickmacross and Clones, have not won the senior championship in over 50 years

In Derry, Dungiven has 3 times the population of either Bellaghy or Ballinderry and yet they have only won i senior title in the past 20 years whilst the other 2 have won 6 each.

How can you explain the lack of success by Strabane where there is nationalist population of 20,000

[illdecide]

TO TACADOIRARDMHACHA

Re your post of 17th Oct

Your point that our success is as a result of a superb batch of players coming along at the same time is quite a valid one although it is hardly a coincidence that this is the second batch of superb players that have come along in the past 15 years.

Your earlier assertion in the same post that our success was in some way due to the population of Cross and the absence of other sports is rather simplistic.
Cross has a population of 1800 and has had a soccer team ( Cartwheel United ) for the past 25 years.

In County Monaghan towns of similar size and population, Carrickmacross and Clones, have not won the senior championship in over 50 years

In Derry, Dungiven has 3 times the population of either Bellaghy or Ballinderry and yet they have only won i senior title in the past 20 years whilst the other 2 have won 6 each.

How can you explain the lack of success by Strabane where there is nationalist population of 20,000

Drink, Drugs, soccer, rugby, women and vandalism...and who would seriously like to play for Carthorse Utd FFS

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They would probably beat Clans.

[Milltown Row2]

PS congratulations to the Middletown Hurlers, Ulster Intermediate champions!

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156918

Great achievement, They have wiped the floor with everyone this year, Anyone know what they'll be up against in the semi's.

Middletown were traditionally strong up the middle and would get you into a dog eat dog battle and grind you down, but this team is full of quality skillfull hurlers that can do a lot of damage, and the majority of them are 19-25 bracket.

Yes watched them beat a very fancied Lamh Dhearg team in the semi final, in fairness they wouldn't have much quality but what they lacked in natural skills they made up in sheer strength and determination.

From the very start I was fearfull for the Lamhs team. The big fullforward won most balls that came in, but lost out when trying to off load them to other players. They also missed a lot of shots when on their own and their free taking could have lost them the match on it's own!!
But Lamh's couldn't get to grips with them and fair play to Middletown, I believe they will play Munster opposition, as long as there is no quarter final game against our English friends.

[illdecide]

They would probably beat Clans.

I was only explaining the lack of success from Strabane...no need for the smart arse remarks, or was that because i belittled Crossmaglen's soccer team