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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 18, 2018, 09:28:29 PM »
So Armagh are appealing all 10 suspensions. Ffs, the GAA disciplinary procedures are utterly useless. Does the Armagh Co Board really believe that not one Armagh player deserves a suspension? Like I said before, a newly rewritten rule book is needed so loopholes are eliminated and decisions are more water tight. Iíd double suspensions if appeals are unsuccessful.

No doubt those posters falling over themselves to condemn Tyroneís appeal last week will be doing the same again here??

Are we really appealing all ten? Thatís a joke.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/286666

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:43:25 PM »
So Armagh are appealing all 10 suspensions. Ffs, the GAA disciplinary procedures are utterly useless. Does the Armagh Co Board really believe that not one Armagh player deserves a suspension? Like I said before, a newly rewritten rule book is needed so loopholes are eliminated and decisions are more water tight. Iíd double suspensions if appeals are unsuccessful.

No doubt those posters falling over themselves to condemn Tyroneís appeal last week will be doing the same again here??

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 16, 2018, 12:25:23 AM »
The bench emptying. 10+ suspensions suggests serious misconduct no matter how you'd like to view it.

Are anyone of those suspensions for something worse than the flying shoulder?

If you seriously want to have a discussion about a hierarchy of misdemeanours I would start off by saying that the coach of an underage team getting involved in a brawl with underage players top trumps nearly everything Iím afraid.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: June 15, 2018, 09:49:21 PM »
How big a loss is Sean Cavanagh?

Can't help but think he'd have carried us over the line v Monaghan as well as put Meath to sleep long before the final whistle last week, even yet.

Maybe Mickey should give him a ring and recall him to the panel?

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General discussion / Re: World Cup Prediciton Comp
« on: June 15, 2018, 05:56:37 PM »
Gutted. Had Morroco v Iran down as 0-0

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GAA Discussion / Re: Carlow v Tyrone
« on: June 15, 2018, 10:11:45 AM »
I don't think I've ever even met someone from Carlow before. What are they like?

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General discussion / Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Dťjŗ vu
« on: June 14, 2018, 03:23:45 PM »
Tough start for new manager but could be ideal time to play City with a lot of their players at WC. Also the club seem to be very proactive in transfer market which is good to see and trying to get deals done quickly rather than haggle over every pound.

Ehh.. you're seeing so many moves early this year because it's a WC year and teams want their transfers done and not severely delayed by waiting till after it's over. Also in many cases there's the real fear their transfer targets may play well in the WC and hence jack up the price the parent club demands for them.

And the transfer window shuts on August 9th before the season starts this year.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 14, 2018, 03:17:44 PM »
Having been at the game I didn't get the impression that Armagh set out to start a row.  It just escalated from a few Tyrone players starting to taunt, goad and wrestle with their opponents in the last minute of extra time.  Don't understand why they simply did not focus on gaining possession, holding onto the ball and seeing out the last minute of the game.  Sad statement on the state of things that after a magnificent effort from both sides that the focus of a few players at the end was to try and humiliate and taunt their opponents.  Does not at all excuse the bench clearing rush from Armagh and scenes that followed.  But Armagh did not start a row because they thought they were beaten.

The elephant in the room here is Tyrone and their complete lack of class. This is a county where most of the population dress like its 2001 and grown men still think it acceptable to run about with their hair dyed blonde using their sisterís peroxide.

So when it comes to seeing out a game in the dying minutes, instead of just getting the job done, this utter ballbagness that is ingrained into every Tyronie from the day theyíre born comes to the fore. Of course things backfired, and being the shower of yaps that they are would rather see Armagh out as well as themselves just to be spiteful c***ts.

Reminds me of nights out in Armagh and Cookstown back in the day, they were the same then when Armagh boys curted their women, started rows because they all they were left with was to curt their cousins on the bus home

Its the genuine pain in this sort of post, knowing that it was caused by Tyrone, which brings me the most joy. Armagh actually won the game and we still can bring this out in them. Much as i'd like us to withdraw the appeal (you have suffered enough) in many ways this is classic Armagh baiting from our county board. I'd nearly forgotten how enjoyable it was to read the desperate ramblings of Armagh posters. Brings back fond memories of 2003 and 2005. Good times  8)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 14, 2018, 11:10:01 AM »
Just man up and take your batin ye shower of bog dwelling midgets

I'll refer you to the Armagh supporters response after 2003. We had to beat you again in 2005 to hammer home the point.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:39:36 PM »
I wonder will there be the same level of critique for Donegal appealing the red card at the weekend? Will there fk.

This culture of appealing every red card is a blight on the game. McGee left the knee in about 4 times and still they are appealing the decision. Maybe the ref forgot to hole punch his report so Donegal have them on a technicality.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tyrone U20
« on: June 13, 2018, 06:51:08 PM »
I've not read this story so far and am only catching up on it now but I have to laugh at this GAA thinking that if you were beaten and you deserved to be beaten even if there was a clear instance of a rule broken.

I can think back to the AI final of 1995 when Charlie Redmond got sent off and didn't go off for a number of minutes.
Can you imagine this year if Kerry are playing Mayo in the AI final and Kieran Donaghy gets a 2nd yellow but the ref doesn't notice and he plays on and sets up a goal and Dublin lose by a point.

Do you think there would be a replay?
If Mayo played badly and were well beaten by 5 points would your attitude be different?

My head hurts after reading this Fuzzman.

On the topic of the objection, Iím a Tyrone fan and am sick of the county boardís attitude of raising objections. Weíve done it numerous times over the years for red cards and I wish weíd just get take the result on the chin and move on. That said, and it may not necessarily be relevant to this case, but I do think itís high time that the GAA thought about hiring a few legal buffs to rewrite the whole rule book to close the legal loopholes and clarify any of the grey areas. I assume it wasnít designed to withstand being picked apart by legal teams looking for technicalities.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulsters perspective on coaching
« on: June 12, 2018, 06:23:12 PM »
The tactical blueprint for this ultra defensive low risk football began with Jimmy McGuinness and there have been subtle variations of this style of play ever since by clubs and counties all over the land, not just Ulster. At least McGuinness was a visionary with his own ideas and convictions even if it was often putrid stuff to watch.

There are far too many 'super coaches' with big egos who over estimate their own influence. Low risk safe possession based football will often prevent you from getting embarrassed against better opposition but ultimately it is players who will decide who wins matches.   

Whatís wrong with this?

It's horrible to watch, I thought that much was obvious. If I want to watch slow lateral build up play I'll watch the rugby super league but it's not a spectacle I enjoy.

It's based on the fear of making a mistake when in possession and a 'don't give the ball away at all costs' mentality for fear of what might happen when the possession is turned over. It leads to players overplaying laterally and backwards just for the sake of keeping the ball, with absolutely no purpose or attacking intent.

The worst excesses of it lead to little or no kicking until inside the scoring zone and any player who kicks it away needlessly will be hauled in front of the video analysis committee the following Tuesday to be reprimanded by management. The game is ruled by stats and over analysis, just look at the GAA section of a newspaper after a match and witness the countless stats about no of possessions, no of attacks etc etc as an example of how rigid the game has become. It has become a whole industry in itself though and players do concern themselves with stats and ratings when analysing performance. All of this stuff is mind numbingly boring however and often creates robotic pre programmed players unable to think on their feet.

Whilst I agree there are a fair amount of bullshit merchants making a killing on blagging a defensive systems in club football, in intercounty football were resources are so unevenly spread amongst the counties then itís utter nonsense to suggest that the team with less resources at its disposal shouldnít avail of tactics to give them the best chance of being competitive. You seriously canít prefer to watch Kerry beat Clare by 30 odd points rather than Fermanagh utilising their gameplan to turn over Monaghan? If Fermanagh went toe to toe with Donegal in the Ulster final then theyíd get done over by 20 points. They just donít have the resources to man mark McBreaty and Murphy or the fire power to out score them. So what would be your plan then to make them competitive if they donít go defensive, try to keep the game close and grab enough scores in a low scoring game to sneak it? I for one will find that much more intriguing than a 30 point wash out.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulsters perspective on coaching
« on: June 12, 2018, 05:33:18 PM »
The tactical blueprint for this ultra defensive low risk football began with Jimmy McGuinness and there have been subtle variations of this style of play ever since by clubs and counties all over the land, not just Ulster. At least McGuinness was a visionary with his own ideas and convictions even if it was often putrid stuff to watch.

There are far too many 'super coaches' with big egos who over estimate their own influence. Low risk safe possession based football will often prevent you from getting embarrassed against better opposition but ultimately it is players who will decide who wins matches.   

Whatís wrong with this?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Carlow v Tyrone
« on: June 12, 2018, 12:02:43 AM »
Yiz are underestimating the Poacher factor. This man is single-handedly taking the fight to Dublin in Leinster.

Added, he has a deep knowledge of Tyroniees by working for the Gaelic Life and takes courses and stuff. He is already inside McCarron's head. Poacher could be the winning of this.

And heís married to a Tyrone woman I believe. All part of the master plan.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: June 11, 2018, 04:08:28 PM »
Carlow is a decent draw for us. They'll be well up for it but their style should suit us down to the ground. Surely at this stage we are well use to dealing with a defensive set up. We have nearly mastered the defensive system (I appreciate this has lapsed a bit this year), having learned from Donegal so I can't see anything that Carlow can bring to the table with regards this tactic should unduly concern us. They are relative novices at developing that style, which may be effective in Div 4 and the early stages of a Leinster championship but this is a big step up for them to test their system against a team like Tyrone. They are unlikely to rattle a big score which will also help as our ability to score, outside of Skeet's purple patches, is very limited at the minute.

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