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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: September 21, 2017, 11:05:28 PM »
Hadn't realised that Raging Bull Jake Lamotta passed away a couple of days ago. 95 was a fair old age for a man who had so many wars in the ring.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 19, 2017, 07:15:12 PM »
And lads why are yous comparing Tyrone to Armagh and Derry? I'm sure if they had won the amount of underage all Irelands we've won in the 10 or15 years they wouldn't be where they are either.

Both these teams in my view would be our biggest rivals and around 2001 (your era for comparison)we would have all been at a reasonably similar level. Yes, we've had good minor success since but only 1 U21 win. Armagh have won an All Ireland U21 championship too, in 2004 and an All Ireland minor championship in 2009. Derry have been in 3 minor finals since 2002 and won 1. Both consistently produce good players at school and college level so there is no shortage of talent in either county with both producing outstanding club teams at national level too. You are comparing Tyrone with 2001/2 and my point is that in comparison to our greatest local rivals we are significantly better. We can't compare ourselves to the 2003-08 era as we just don't have the players of that level currently. There's loads of reasons for that and Mickey may just be one of them. Your constant and incessant view that one man and one variable is the sole reason why Tyrone aren't winning All Irelands anymore is utterly blinkered and tiresome at this stage. Do think if Mickey leaves we will win the AI within the 3 year timeframe?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 19, 2017, 03:40:58 PM »
Ok so tell me how Tyrone are any better off in 2016/17 than they were in 2001/02?

We have 3 Sams  :o
did we win Sam in 2016/17?

Did we win Sam pre-2001? How many AI semi finals did we appear in the 5 years preceding 2001? Are we likely to get put of the championship by a team like Sligo next year? We regularly hammer teams of that ilk these days. We are short of the very best teams at the minute, but that just might be our level for now. How are Armagh in comparison to where they were in 2001? What about Derry? They were similar levels to us then and are nowhere near us now. I'll take that for starters.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AI minor football championship
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:27:33 PM »
Thanks BennyHarp - Thought both the senior and minor finals stopped on GAAGO in GB, only the senior game. Cheers

No bother. Should be a good game. Even as a Tyrone man I'd like to see Derry do it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: AI minor football championship
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:12:30 PM »
Gaels - How would I go about watching the All Ireland Minor Final from London? TG4 is stream in Ireland only? Not on Sky. Or do I just walk to the pub. Thanks

You can watch it online for 10 on GAAGO. Usually a pretty good service.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: September 17, 2017, 05:03:34 AM »
A draw WTF?

Ridiculous. This sort shit turns people off boxing.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: September 16, 2017, 08:51:13 AM »
I thought they announced that existing BoxNation subscribers DIDN'T have to pay anything extra.

Sorry I just see that. Assumed when they went to bother of setting up a box office channel that they were charging for everyone. Won't get up at 4 in morning but handier for watching it early on Sunday.

BT customers on Sky get Boxnation but don't get this box office fight. This is a bit annoying as I unsubscribe from boxnation when it joined with BT.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: September 15, 2017, 08:41:48 PM »
Rigo - Lomachenko confirmed.

Nice one! There's plenty of good fights being made this year. Boxing is upping its game at last. When is this due to happen?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 13, 2017, 10:59:09 PM »
well at least i know for next time. il just have to get on my committee and work my way up to county delegate. i hve 3 yrs then i can vote him out to f**k.

Good lad. I'm sure your club will appreciate your efforts over the next 3 years.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 13, 2017, 10:27:23 PM »
Clar for county meeting was emailed out the week previous week, very clearly stating that County Senior management would be up for discussion. As I've said earlier I know of clubs, my own included, who asked committee members how they would like to vote prior to the meeting. If some clubs can do it, there's no reason why they all can't. If a clubs county board delegate didn't go and seek the feelings from the club committee then maybe questions should be asked of the club delegate?
did the email that was sent out to clubs clearly state that there was a proposed 3 year term for harte or that county senior management was up for discussion. i reckon more than a few delegates landed at garvaghey that night and didnt know what they were voting on until they got there.

Do you know this? Or is it just what you reckon?

Benny maybe you might enlighten us all exactly what was communicated to the clubs and their delegates in advance of the meeting.

I don't know Bill. I'm just trying to reconcile the comments by the likes of yourself and SouthTyrone suggesting there'd be riots on the streets if Mickey got a new term and what actually happened when the clubs voted fairly clearly to keep him in place. All I do I know is that the clubs were informed of the vote in advance and where invited  to discuss it and if I was as angry as you lads always seem to be then I'd make damn sure I had my voice heard at a forum where it would make a difference. All I'm asking is, did any of you lads take the opportunity?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:57:04 PM »
Clar for county meeting was emailed out the week previous week, very clearly stating that County Senior management would be up for discussion. As I've said earlier I know of clubs, my own included, who asked committee members how they would like to vote prior to the meeting. If some clubs can do it, there's no reason why they all can't. If a clubs county board delegate didn't go and seek the feelings from the club committee then maybe questions should be asked of the club delegate?
did the email that was sent out to clubs clearly state that there was a proposed 3 year term for harte or that county senior management was up for discussion. i reckon more than a few delegates landed at garvaghey that night and didnt know what they were voting on until they got there.

Do you know this? Or is it just what you reckon?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 13, 2017, 05:18:58 PM »
Boys ultimately we don't have the forwards to compete with Dublin.

I would agree with this, you still need top forwards to win All Irelands and currently they dont exist in Tyrone.  Im not sure where the really next top, match winning forward/s in Tyrone are coming from.  We seem to have abundances of running half forward types but very little options for the full forward line.  Until we unearth some forwards who can be considered to be amongst the best in Ireland, then All Ireland glory will be out of our reach.  Forwards win matches.

How are we going to unearth a really top class full forward if we continue to use this defensive style of play particularly when it's also being used by the development squads..

Don't you understand that to "to compete with the best" you dont need to develope forwards apparently the opposition are to be convinced to stick the ball over their own bar to placate the mickey fan club on this interenet form. Anyone who dares question his methods

1. Dose not have a clue
2. never played the game
3. has not been picked by mickey
4. has had a relative who has not been picked by mickey
5. has never managed a team in their lives
6. has personel issues with mickey.

or possibly are a little feed up with paying good money to watch their county being beaten out the gate while "competing with the best" because our great leader has decided we dont need to play with a forward line which contains players who might actually threaten the opposition goals and plays a system that does not require you to defend a deficit. Time a few people woke up and smelled the coffee or is that a hint of gravy in the air ?

The vast majority of clubs in this county voted for Harte to stay so Bill, go you along to your local club meeting (I don't know who it is but they probably voted for Harte to stay) and tell them that you are sick of paying a few pounds to go and watch Tyrone play and that they need to wake up and smell the coffee because you believe Mickey Harte tactics are wrong. Tell them how pissed off you are and demand that they to listen to you and next time the vote for Mickey to leave comes up they should follow your advice. There's no point venting on here, nobody on here can make a difference but I'm sure, once they work out who you are, the lads in your local club will be glad to hear what you have to say.

Serious amount of canvassing done in this area to keep Mickey by a local county board club delegate and ex fixtures chairman.....

Benny what makes you so sure that I havent already expressed my opinion to club representatives already. It is not as if my opinions are like a voice in the wilderness. In the recent week I have spoken to many people within my own club and neighbouring clubs and I am not detecting any great support for the decision made. If anything a lot of people are far from happy about the lack of consultation with grass route members and fact it was 3 years the general feeling is that the vote taken was far from representative. You can make the argument that if people are not happy they can storm the bastille and change the county board make up. Not likely to happen. what is already happening and most likely to esculate is that people will vote with their feet and stop attending county matches. I am already seeing it at club level that the Derry problem of advising young players to avoid county call ups is becoming more of an issue. A sad state off affairs but sure hey people get what they vote for...........and anyone who is unhappy needs to shut up and get on with it.

But you and every club knew this decision was coming up. If you voiced this at your club meeting and had the groundswell of support that you say is there, then how did your club not vote to get Mickey out? I'm genuinely intrigued how such vociferous people online, some claiming mutiny  in the streets, fail so miserably to get their very loud voices heard within their clubs.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 12, 2017, 11:20:45 PM »
Boys ultimately we don't have the forwards to compete with Dublin.

I would agree with this, you still need top forwards to win All Irelands and currently they dont exist in Tyrone.  Im not sure where the really next top, match winning forward/s in Tyrone are coming from.  We seem to have abundances of running half forward types but very little options for the full forward line.  Until we unearth some forwards who can be considered to be amongst the best in Ireland, then All Ireland glory will be out of our reach.  Forwards win matches.

How are we going to unearth a really top class full forward if we continue to use this defensive style of play particularly when it's also being used by the development squads..

Don't you understand that to "to compete with the best" you dont need to develope forwards apparently the opposition are to be convinced to stick the ball over their own bar to placate the mickey fan club on this interenet form. Anyone who dares question his methods

1. Dose not have a clue
2. never played the game
3. has not been picked by mickey
4. has had a relative who has not been picked by mickey
5. has never managed a team in their lives
6. has personel issues with mickey.

or possibly are a little feed up with paying good money to watch their county being beaten out the gate while "competing with the best" because our great leader has decided we dont need to play with a forward line which contains players who might actually threaten the opposition goals and plays a system that does not require you to defend a deficit. Time a few people woke up and smelled the coffee or is that a hint of gravy in the air ?

The vast majority of clubs in this county voted for Harte to stay so Bill, go you along to your local club meeting (I don't know who it is but they probably voted for Harte to stay) and tell them that you are sick of paying a few pounds to go and watch Tyrone play and that they need to wake up and smell the coffee because you believe Mickey Harte tactics are wrong. Tell them how pissed off you are and demand that they to listen to you and next time the vote for Mickey to leave comes up they should follow your advice. There's no point venting on here, nobody on here can make a difference but I'm sure, once they work out who you are, the lads in your local club will be glad to hear what you have to say.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 10, 2017, 11:09:34 PM »
heard today that only 4 clubs voted against harte. landslide victory for him. amazing really when u see the oppostion on internet forums. certain stipulations on his new contract though, tyrone have to send a delegate to speak to rte and his backroom team has to be reduced. i wonder who will get the chop?

That was expected before but players collectively decided not to speak...  if you're to believe that  ::)
Of course they did!! Then when the captain walks out of the changing rooms for last time he runs straight into the arms if RTE!!!

Sure just say Sean is the press Rep, he wont mind chatting to them!

his appearance now totally casts doubts on the point of this RTE ban...

I wonder is he still observing the alcohol ban and the ban on unhealthy food. I wonder is he still following the fitness programme he agreed to follow! Grow up ffs. As part of the team he observes the team etiquette, he's not part of that anymore and he clearly wants a career in the media so he'd be mad to turn down the opportunity. How long should he wait to satisfy the faceless (small) minority, who clearly have no influence in their clubs, who shout very loud on Internet forums?


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GAA Discussion / Re: Time to Split Dublin
« on: September 10, 2017, 02:17:35 AM »
The second team is plenty beatable. If you think that's an argument against splitting Dublin, you need to look at it again.

It may be beatable on paper as you look at it now but a South Dublin team would quickly develop. The money structures would be put in place fairly quickly to enable them to flourish and I believe that the two Dublin teams would be very competitive very quickly.

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