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For all the blather about "Michelle and Emma" and a bright future for NI, it's 2024 and the British are still trying to suppress the truth.  25 people involved in this murder, most of whom were loyalist touts, RUC and UDR members.

Excellent programme that showed the devastation visited on families during the Troubles.

And one active member of the RIR allegedly..

Is your man Swinger Fulton still alive?

He "hung himself" in prison

That Tyrone team have better fire power than most Ulster team, it'll be an interesting game. I hate to say it but the sons of God are a joy to watch.

theres nothing wrong with saying it. He was a superb player and they look to heading the same way

How the hell is it a free out when 3 players are kneeing on you. Goldrick is a complete balloon

I'd go get your eyesight checked if I were you. The ref won it for you

Are you serious? 5 cavan high challenges unpunished by ref, phantom black card. 40 seconds extra played at end for cavan and the ref won it lol

Jayzus lad, ducking your head into a challenge and then throwing your head back is working a free in your favour. Black card was 100% spot on.

If anything, Tyrone got the rub of the green today

Not in the hand I watched. Gough def kept Cavan in it with really poor decisions. He's prob one of the worst on the circuit

You were watching something else entirely. Gough wasn't the ref

How the hell is it a free out when 3 players are kneeing on you. Goldrick is a complete balloon

I'd go get your eyesight checked if I were you. The ref won it for you

Are you serious? 5 cavan high challenges unpunished by ref, phantom black card. 40 seconds extra played at end for cavan and the ref won it lol

Added time is a minimum. Morgan wasted a lot with his free

Thats about the 4th high challenge cavan have gotten away with today

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A high tackle is either a yellow card or it's not. It's not wonder fans get so frustrated with refs when they are so inconsistent

Though I will say that McKernan should have got black there.

That was stupid. Really cost his team

Game over.

Maybe not.

Def not

Embarrassing

In relation to glass and other Glen boy's, I wonder if the decision not to take time off after the club final was a factor today

Derry beat them in the league final

They beat them in the penalty shootout, they drew the game.

They won the match. They beat them

There is a lot of back and forth re Dublin who I think we should all admit would dominate any province. They are dominating the All-Ireland long enough so it's fair to say their depth would manage Ulster too.

But, that doesn't excuse Kildare and Meath especially. They should be up and around Div 1 or solid Div 2. I know lads are saying when we are waiting to be hammered in Leinster it breeds a bad vibe, but the league is something different and Kildare were annihilated by Cork and Derry last year. That is not excuseable.

There will be a reset and some fresh blood on the pitch and on the line next year, but the Dubs are going nowhere!

It does create a bad vibe. And you can't just switch that on or off for league football.

When people argued that Dublin benefitted from financial advantages 5 years back we were told that it was a once in a life time team. That we should laud them while they are here. How does that argument stack up now?

Are they that far ahead? A Monaghan team on its last legs ran then close last year, a Kerry team thats good but nothing special ran them close in the final with their main man having an off day. Derry drew with them in the league final.  Outside the old guard they are a very good but not unbelievable side.

Derry beat them in the league final

That keeper is a bomb scare. Go on Donegal

he can save a penalty though!

Let's not go there

Thay would make every game meaningful.
You'd have to win 2 games to get to the Quarter Finals.
Lose 2 and you're out.

Then knock out from the Quarters as usual (apart from the years of the "Super 8s" as the media wrongly called the Qtr Finals series)

Anyway back on topic wins for Tytone and Derry I presume??

Yes

Thinking about how the lack of interest in games here reflect the general apathy in the community towards football. Used to be you'd have a thread for each of the big games here with multiple pages of craic, analysis and bickering. Now we've one amalgamated thread for all of ulster with very little interest or posts. You'll never see a 100page + thread of tyrone v Armagh banter ever again.

Came across this on YouTube the other day...

https://youtu.be/arMAgKKhltk?si=VJ9e3OEDG69jXF9u

It's a copy of the Sam 2005 dvd with extended highlights throughout that summer. Forgot how good these dvds were. What really stands out for me, outside of the crowds and quality of the football, was the general atmosphere in the games. The type of football played generated and sustained an almost constant noise throughout the match. The number of contests for the ball was significantly higher and its contests that generate that edge of the seat excitement that in turn created a cauldron of atmosphere and spectacle.

Youll still see unreal skills in today's game, mindblowing points and class goals. However, these are small peaks amongst the dredge we have to watch for 80% of the game. Watching games these days and I can't help but notice the level of general chat in the stands, people on phones and flatness. You'll hardly ever hear a chant outside of the odd come on you blues.

I've wrote this post as I've just completed the GAA games survey and hope that something will be found to return our game to its former glory. To me that is moving away from the obsession with possession based football and finding away to create more opportunities for contests in attack, midfield and forwards. Or maybe I'm a grumpy f**ker and will just have to accept transitions, 20+ passes back to the keeper and 30 players inside a 45 multiple times a game. What a load of shite.

The only way you can return to those days is a straight knockout from the start. It won't happen. 20 years ago I'd have sleepless nights about losing to Cavan. Now, whatever, still a lock a group games.

The GAA may be amateur but its money-making machine is as professional as the NFL in the States.

It wasnt straight knockout in those days though. That said I agree with that post. Football is generally a hard watch these days

Hear City looking a replay with Madrid as penalties don't count lol

theyre saying they didnt actually lose