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#2161
General discussion / Re: Gaza under attack again
April 02, 2010, 12:14:54 AM
12 air raids so far, and 3 children injured.
They have destroyed a cheese factory, a metal factory, and agricultural ground.
They are phoning families and telling them to leave there homes.
Plus, it's 2 am over there right now, so you can imagine the panic.
Is this why the US give them $7 million per day for?
And people cry about Obama giving out a bit of healthcare!
Motherfuckers.
#2162
General discussion / Gaza under attack again
April 01, 2010, 11:36:33 PM
In the past 30 minutes, Israeli F16's have hit Gaza in 12 seperate air raids so far.
Last night they dropped leaflets warning people this would happen, and true to their word, they have started bombing again.
It's going to be a long night in Gaza.

I will post more as I get news.
#2163
General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
March 31, 2010, 11:37:41 PM
Catholic League head: Abuse not pedophilia because boys were 'post-pubescent'
The head of the influential Catholic League says that the priest who allegedly sexually abused 200 deaf boys in Wisconsin did not engage in pedophilia because 'the vast majority of the victims [were] post-pubescent."

Bill Donohue made the argument during a raucous debate on Larry King Live Tuesday night, during which he repeatedly pointed the finger to homosexuality -- rather than pedophilia -- as the cause of the church's sex abuse problems.

"You've got to get your facts straight," Donohue said, addressing sex abuse victim Thomas Roberts. "I am sorry. If Im the only one thats going to deal with facts tonight then that'll be it. The vast majority of the victims are post-pubescent. Thats not pedophilia, buddy. Thats homosexuality."

A rather surprised panel of commentators -- which included pop icon Sinead O'Connor -- then began to debate at what age, exactly, does sexual attraction to children cease to be pedophilia.

Donohue argued the age at which children become "post-pubescent" is around 12 or 13.


Click on this link to read the article in full, and then watch the 3 minute clip from the show where he springs this wild claim.
Is now a defence that is going to be used in the future by elements within the church?

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0331/catholic-league-boys-pubescent/
#2164
I wonder what the difference is between an Islamic terrorist, and a christain militia?

Was reading the other day that Obama faces a bigger threat from these Militia groups within
the US, than he does from overseas.
Wonder will Sarah Palin bring a few of these along with her when they "take out" Obama?
#2165
Quote from: Ulick on March 27, 2010, 05:29:35 PM
It's a very pertinent point in the debate Muppet as it points out that the current Pope in his previous position did more than anyone else in the Church to deal with clerical abuse.

Then why did he refuse to go to the US to answers questions on what he knew about child abuse there?
Why did he do a deal with Bush so that as long as he is pope, he is immune from having to go to the US to answer questions?
Is he hiding anything?
#2166
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on March 26, 2010, 05:27:24 PM
Iceman, they only see what they want to see


A bit like yourself I suppose.
#2167
General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
March 26, 2010, 12:39:39 PM
The shit is getting very close to the fan
#2168
The sight of the disgraced Irish Bishops meeting the Pope in Rome a few weeks ago was sickening.
Watching them curtsey in front of him, and then proceed to kiss his ring like he was some form of royalty was revolting.
Watching this, i'm sure the victims felt like they had support at the highest level.
I'm sure the meeting went into much detail about how they could cover up some more. Share a few idea's and secrets on the art of cover up.

I have a very good friend who was abused by a priest, and knowing about the cover up involved in their case is one very very sad affair. The church is rotten to the core from the top down. Until there are changes from the top down, then the church will continue in free fall.

If any of the loyal supporters of the church on here knew a victim personally, then you would soon change your tune. By supoporting the church and clergy in it's current form, you are on the side of the abusers.
#2169
General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
March 25, 2010, 09:11:25 PM
Excellent song and video about Clerical and Instutional abuse by Mickey Coleman.
Well worth a view folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yeIOGSbSjM
#2170
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8587082.stm

Pope Benedict faces child abuse cover-up queries 

Benedict once led the Vatican office charged with investigating abuse 
Questions are being raised about whether Pope Benedict was personally involved in covering up a case of child sex abuse by a Roman Catholic priest.

Documents seen by the New York Times newspaper allege that in the 1990s, long before he became Pope, he failed to respond to letters about a US case.

Fr Lawrence Murphy, of Wisconsin, was accused of abusing up to 200 deaf boys.

Defending itself, the Vatican said US civil authorities had investigated and dropped the case.

For more than 20 years before he was made Pope, Joseph Ratzinger led the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith - the Vatican office with responsibility, among other issues, for the Church's response to child abuse cases.

Allegations that the Church sought to cover up child abuse by Catholic priests in Europe have haunted the Vatican for months.

'So friendly'

The documents seen by the New York Times suggest that in 1996, the then Cardinal Ratzinger twice failed to respond to letters sent to him personally.


  Instead of removing [Fr Murphy] from the priesthood, they just gave him a free pass

Jeff Anderson
US lawyer
They concerned the Rev Lawrence Murphy, who worked at a Wisconsin school for deaf children from the 1950s.

Three archbishops of Wisconsin were told Fr Murphy was sexually abusing boys but those allegations were not reported to civil authorities at the time.

Alleged victims quoted by the New York Times gave accounts of the priest pulling down their trousers and touching them in his office, his car, his mother's country house, on class excursions and fund-raising trips, and in their dormitory beds at night.

"If he was a real mean guy, I would have stayed away," said Arthur Budzinski, 61, a former pupil of at St John's School for the Deaf, in St Francis, in the Diocese of Milwaukee.

"But he was so friendly, and so nice and understanding. I knew he was wrong, but I couldn't really believe it."

According to the New York Times, Fr Murphy was quietly moved to the Diocese of Superior in northern Wisconsin in 1974, where he spent his last 24 years working freely with children in parishes and schools. He died in 1998, still a priest.

Two lawyers have filed lawsuits on behalf of five men alleging the Archdiocese of Milwaukee did not take sufficient action against the priest.

One of the lawyers, Jeff Anderson, told the Associated Press news agency that the documents they had obtained on Fr Murphy, and shown to the New York Times, showed the Vatican was more concerned about possible publicity than about the abuse allegations.

"Instead of removing him from the priesthood, they just gave him a free pass," he said.

'Tragic case'

The Pope's official spokesman, Federico Lombardi, called it a "tragic case" but pointed out that the Vatican had become involved only in 1996, after US civil authorities had dropped the case.

"During the mid-1970s, some of Fr Murphy's victims reported his abuse to civil authorities," the Rev Lombardi said in a statement.

"The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith was not informed of the matter until some 20 years later."

The Milwaukee diocese was asked to take action by "restricting Father Murphy's public ministry and requiring that Father Murphy accept full responsibility for the gravity of his acts", the Rev Lombardi added.

He also said that Fr Murphy's poor health and a lack of more recent allegations had been factors in the decision not to defrock him.

But the Vatican's decision not to carry out its own investigation is the question that brings the now Pope's own involvement centre stage, says BBC religious affairs correspondent Christopher Landau.

Victims of sexual abuse by priests have long argued that the Church has been more interested in protecting its reputation and helping its priests than seeking justice for victims, our correspondent adds.

Fr Murphy died in 1998, with - in the Church's view - no official blemish on his priestly record.

But questions about why Cardinal Ratzinger failed to respond to concerns being raised by American archbishops still demand answers, our correspondent says.

And such questions mean that this sexual abuse crisis continues to have an impact at the very highest level in the Roman Catholic church, he adds.

#2171
General discussion / Re: Mossad Killing in Dubai
March 25, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
Watch this video, recorded in Galway yesterday.
Irish passports handed out on the streets by Mossad.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlvpdzPKBc
#2172
Barry Mc Elduff is an expert on the townlands around Carrickmore, and no doubt he will claim that it is indeed in the Carrickmore parish. I tend to agree with him.

I wonder if Fred is any relation to Kurt?

#2173
The line up for this years Electric Picnic has been announced today.

For more information, check out their web site
www.electricpicnic.ie

ELECTRIC PICNIC
Stradbally Hall, Co. Laois, Ireland
3rd, 4th, and 5th September 2010

Electric Picnic extends another warm invitation to all lovers of music, art, culture and general frivolity to our annual little get-together in Stradbally, Co Laois on 3rd, 4th & 5th September. A tantalizing world to entice and enthrall you, tickle and tease you. Now in our seventh year our ship's sails are fully hoisted and the journey we annually embark on is becoming more of a home-coming than a new exploration, although taking unknown and adventurous paths along the way is compulsory. How else would we discover the treasures and riches we will be offering to stimulate the senses. All six.

Music is just one of such offerings and it is here that we shall begin.....

Driven by the refined and effortless cool of Bryan Ferry, ROXY MUSIC will make their ever Irish festival appearance with a set that will cover all of their classic hits, such as 'Love is the Drug', 'Jealous Guy' 'Let's Stick Together' and 'Avalon'. One of the most influential acts of all time, the punks, new romantics, electro-poppers and more that have followed in their wake all owe a huge sonic and sartorial debt to ROXY MUSIC.

It was announced earlier this year that after a decade of hibernation, LEFTFIELD will be touring in summer 2010, bringing their epic live show to handful of select festivals and Electric Picnic 2010 is their chosen destination in Ireland. A quintessential Electric Picnic act; LEFTFIELD's unique fusion of electronica, house, dub reggae and rock saw them release two classic albums in the late '90s in 'Leftism' and 'Phat Planet' that will need no introduction.

Fresh from the stunning success of their long-awaited new album Heligoland, Bristol trip hop legends MASSIVE ATTACK make a very welcome return to Stradbally having played a storming set there in 2006. Forever innovating and pushing the boundaries, MASSIVE ATTACK's new audiovisual live show has to be experienced to be believed, and will also feature an array of guest vocalists.

LCD SOUNDSYSTEM's unique and dynamic blend of punk, funk and disco elements has seen them build up a massive cult following over the last five years and Electric Picnic is particularly honoured to welcome the 3-time Grammy-nominated New Yorkers back to Stradbally where they will treat us to tracks to their eagerly-awaited third album as well as established classics such as 'North American Scum', 'All My Friends' and 'Daft Punk is Playing at my House' . Their South London peers, close pals and DFA labelmates HOT CHIP also make a welcome return to Stradbally on the back of their new album 'One Life Stand'.

THE FRAMES celebrate their 20th birthday this year with their first show in Ireland in some 3 years. With a 20th anniversary 'Best Of' compilation due for release later in the year, Oscar-winner Glen Hansard and band re-group for Electric Picnic, airing some of their finest work, with the likes of 'Revelate', 'Lay Me Down', 'Pavement Tune, 'Monument', and 'Falling Slowly' sure to bring the house down. Rising Dublin superstar IMELDA MAY has been perhaps the biggest success story of the last 12 months, her triple platinum-selling album 'Love Tattoo' introducing rockabilly to a new generation. 2010 looks like being just as busy a year – having already performed at the Grammy Awards in Los Angeles in January with Jeff Beck, thereby becoming just the second Irish act to play the famous ceremony, she will play a number of festivals around the world this summer and releases a brand new album on the weekend of Electric Picnic.

The recently-reformed PUBLIC IMAGE LIMITED (PiL), led by ex-Sex Pistol John Lydon are bringing their raucous show to Ireland for the first time ever – some 32 years after they formed. Their distinct and dynamic brand of experimental post-punk rock and dub has had a massive influence on some of today's musical zeitgeist; with acts such as Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, The Rapture and indeed LCD Soundsystem citing them a major influence on their work, most notably with the seminal 1979 'Metal Box' album. Reports from their comeback shows in London in December 2009 suggest this long-awaited appearance will be anything but a let-down.

With Brooklyn's THE NATIONAL and Washingtons' MODEST MOUSE, Electric Picnic welcomes two of America's biggest and well-loved indie rock acts of the last decade, both of whom release new albums in 2010 and whose stunning live shows need no introduction to music fans in Ireland. London indie-folksters MUMFORD & SONS continue their meteoric rise on the back of their excellent top 10 album 'Sigh No More' with their first trip to Electric Picnic; while 'the world's greatest living bluesman' Steve Cobold aka SEASICK STEVE's set at Electric Picnic 2009 went down so well, he had to be invited back to play the main stage in 2010.

In poet, author and soul/jazz/blues musician GIL SCOTT-HERON, Electric Picnic welcomes another iconic and massively influential veteran who has been described as 'the founding father of rap music'. Bringing a seven piece band with him to Stradbally, Gil Scott-Heron's show will mix old classics such as 'The Revolution Will Not Be Televised' and 'Free Will' and 'The Bottle' with his stunning new album "I'm New Here" which was released by XL recordings last month and is already being tipped as a contender for 'best album of 2010'. The New Zealand seven-headed soul/reggae monster that is FAT FREDDY'S DROP bring their blistering live show to Electric Picnic – expect much good vibes at this show, and also at those by Los Angeles' 10 piece funk orchestra BREAKESTRA and the first ever live show in Ireland by veteran Guyana/Jamaican funk and soul combo CYMANDE.

THE WATERBOYS uplifting folk rock and 'big music' sound always produces a great live show, while AFRO CELT SOUNDSYTEM are to play their first show since reforming with their original line-up and anyone who has seen their signature blend of traditional celtic and African music with modern dance rhythms knows that this is a unmissable show. Singersongwriter PAUL BRADY will dig into his deep well of classic folk hits, while the originator of the Galway Girl and the veritable saviour of country music, STEVE EARLE, will air his Grammy award winning album Townes.

Sigur Ros frontman JONSI is getting great critical acclaim for his first solo album 'Go', released this month, and Picnickers will get a chance to see if his live show can reach the awe-inspiring heights achieved by his band when they headlined Electric Picnic 2008. Having featured in many critics top 10 albums of 2009; Sweden's FEVER RAY will play one of just three shows they play worldwide this year; while we have yet more Irish debut at EP for BAD LIEUTENANT – the new project of Joy Division/New Order 's Bernard Sumner and Phil Cunningham – and cult post-punk New Yorkers' LIQUID LIQUID.

For the fan of more contemporary classic acoustic guitar-based indie; look no further that another who released one of the critics favourite albums of 2009, THE LOW ANTHEM; plus an act who many are tipping to do the same in 2010 with their recent album BEACH HOUSE from Baltimore; venerable Canadian power-pop group THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS; Dubllin's guitar-wielding bard and recent Domino signee THE VILLAGERS, and recent Choice award champ ADRIAN CROWLEY.

Germany's finest electro house duo, BOOKA SHADE, with music from fourth studio album, More!; keeping it unreal MR SCRUFF; BLOODY BEETROOTS with their DEATH CREW 77 full 6 piece band fusing punk, rock & electronica; The uncompromising, intensive electro pop sound of Toronto duo CRYSTAL CASTLES; Award-winning electronic drone rockers THE BIG PINK, Mancunian veteran electronic act 808 STATE; Canadian psych traveller CARIBOU; Irish hip hoppers MESSIAH J & THE EXPERT; Black clad London quintet THE HORRORS; Welsh '80s hitmakers THE ALARM, Brooklyn electronic folkers HERE WE GO MAGIC; the debauched rock'n' roll antics of Israel's MONOTONIX; instrumental rock princes REDNECK MANIFESTO; Moniker-crazed one-man-band Dayve Hawk with his psychedelic pop MEMORY TAPES; the gentle electronic folk of former Beta Band frontman STEVE MASON; brothers and co-frontmen Peter and David Brewis'band FIELD MUSIC; eccentric and hilarious rapper EDAN, And no Sunday morning at EP would be complete without the Sunday morning wake-up call from THE DUBLIN GOSPEL CHOIR.
#2174
I suggest we keep a list of priests who are calling on Brady to resign.
Has anyone got a spare postage stamp to write these names down on?

PS Fr. Burns will probably be labelled as a "Self Hating Priest"
#2175
Could you imagine him singing "The Mountains Of Pomeroy" before the All Ireland in Croker.......