Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

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Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

Lionel Messi
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Milltown Row2

#450
December 17, 2022, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 17, 2022, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: laoislad on December 16, 2022, 05:40:18 PM
Quote from: rrhf on December 16, 2022, 05:22:17 PM
No conversation without mentioning Peter Canavan is valid. Dont care what the sport is.
Henry Shefflin was a better hurler than Canavan was a footballer.

Would disagree. Shefflin was a machine, a robotic hurler. Dj had more natural ability, flair and pace.
Canavan was a brilliant footballer. Intelligent, had serious pace, wicked when he needed to be. A serious operator.

Depends what you are looking for, general stats Shefflin is right up there, as is Canning, flare skill DJ was something else,

Same goes for these who's best?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

From the Bunker

#451
December 17, 2022, 08:16:00 PM
Is being the best in Hurling less than being the best in Football? More play football.

Who is the best league of Ireland Soccer player ever? Is there a greatest ever to argue about?

Who is the best Australian Rules Football Player? I don't have a clue.

Do we really care?

i'd say there are a plethora of countries who don't even know Katie Taylor exists (never mind Shefflin/Canavan).

In the Gaelic Intercounty world we are exposed to four or five games a season with the top players with Top counties. One or two games for the top players with weaker counties. Three or four good games a year and you win an All-Star and are considered great.

With Messi, Ronaldo et al we are exposed to maybe up to 20+ at least. They are known all over the world in a game played, watched and analysed all over the world.

Someone said to me once there were 17k professional footballers from Brazil playing the game at home and around the world.

Milltown Row2

#452
December 17, 2022, 11:44:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 17, 2022, 08:16:00 PM
Is being the best in Hurling less than being the best in Football? More play football.

Who is the best league of Ireland Soccer player ever? Is there a greatest ever to argue about?

Who is the best Australian Rules Football Player? I don't have a clue.

Do we really care?

i'd say there are a plethora of countries who don't even know Katie Taylor exists (never mind Shefflin/Canavan).

In the Gaelic Intercounty world we are exposed to four or five games a season with the top players with Top counties. One or two games for the top players with weaker counties. Three or four good games a year and you win an All-Star and are considered great.

With Messi, Ronaldo et al we are exposed to maybe up to 20+ at least. They are known all over the world in a game played, watched and analysed all over the world.

Someone said to me once there were 17k professional footballers from Brazil playing the game at home and around the world.

Because football is easy to play, more skill involved in hurling
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

thewobbler

#453
December 18, 2022, 04:00:06 PM
Watching a couple of middle aged, semi reasonable sports fans having a meltdown on Twitter today whilst Messi is clarifying his position above their hero Ronaldo.... It's kind of surreal.

Same bucks would probably wonder how the Catholic Church were able to manipulate minds.

seafoid

#454
December 18, 2022, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2022, 11:44:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 17, 2022, 08:16:00 PM
Is being the best in Hurling less than being the best in Football? More play football.

Who is the best league of Ireland Soccer player ever? Is there a greatest ever to argue about?

Who is the best Australian Rules Football Player? I don't have a clue.

Do we really care?

i'd say there are a plethora of countries who don't even know Katie Taylor exists (never mind Shefflin/Canavan).

In the Gaelic Intercounty world we are exposed to four or five games a season with the top players with Top counties. One or two games for the top players with weaker counties. Three or four good games a year and you win an All-Star and are considered great.

With Messi, Ronaldo et al we are exposed to maybe up to 20+ at least. They are known all over the world in a game played, watched and analysed all over the world.

Someone said to me once there were 17k professional footballers from Brazil playing the game at home and around the world.

Because football is easy to play, more skill involved in hurling
Good man Milltown.

laoislad

#455
December 18, 2022, 05:58:42 PM
Close the Thread.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

screenexile

#456
December 18, 2022, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 18, 2022, 04:00:06 PM
Watching a couple of middle aged, semi reasonable sports fans having a meltdown on Twitter today whilst Messi is clarifying his position above their hero Ronaldo.... It's kind of surreal.

Same bucks would probably wonder how the Catholic Church were able to manipulate minds.

Man Ure fans took a bit of comfort in the Ronaldo goat conversation and the fact "Ronnie's a red".

Finally the debate has been settled. Will be funny to see Piers Morgan try and spout his Ronaldo nonsense with a straight face now.

nrico2006

#460
December 18, 2022, 09:17:29 PM
It's like someone above wanted to really draw a line under this debate. Messi was always seen as the beat, but then over the past 6 or 7 years it was Ronaldo who turned into the super clutch player of the two when it came to CL knockout stages and international football. Even at the end of last season, Ronaldo scoring in the PL and Messi barely able to buy a goal in an easier league. How things have completely changed in a few months, with Ronaldo being dropped at United, unable to score and then the big exit. It seemed like he would answer his critics at the World Cup, it definitely seemed impossible that he would have such a bad world cup and be dropped, given his status both globally and in Portugal. But his nightmare continues, the worst run/period in his career has happened to coincide with Messi winning the thing that differentiates careers. Couldn't make it up.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Armagh18

#461
December 18, 2022, 09:57:28 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2022, 09:17:29 PM
It's like someone above wanted to really draw a line under this debate. Messi was always seen as the beat, but then over the past 6 or 7 years it was Ronaldo who turned into the super clutch player of the two when it came to CL knockout stages and international football. Even at the end of last season, Ronaldo scoring in the PL and Messi barely able to buy a goal in an easier league. How things have completely changed in a few months, with Ronaldo being dropped at United, unable to score and then the big exit. It seemed like he would answer his critics at the World Cup, it definitely seemed impossible that he would have such a bad world cup and be dropped, given his status both globally and in Portugal. But his nightmare continues, the worst run/period in his career has happened to coincide with Messi winning the thing that differentiates  careers. Couldn't make it up.
Whatever side you come down on I don't think what Ronaldos at at 37 should matter. 2 unbelievable players head and shoulders above the others career wise.

imtommygunn

#462
December 18, 2022, 10:02:03 PM
Did he not lose a child this year too? Bound to have a huge impact on him.

Captain Obvious

#463
December 18, 2022, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2022, 09:17:29 PM
It's like someone above wanted to really draw a line under this debate. Messi was always seen as the beat, but then over the past 6 or 7 years it was Ronaldo who turned into the super clutch player of the two when it came to CL knockout stages and international football. Even at the end of last season, Ronaldo scoring in the PL and Messi barely able to buy a goal in an easier league. How things have completely changed in a few months, with Ronaldo being dropped at United, unable to score and then the big exit. It seemed like he would answer his critics at the World Cup, it definitely seemed impossible that he would have such a bad world cup and be dropped, given his status both globally and in Portugal. But his nightmare continues, the worst run/period in his career has happened to coincide with Messi winning the thing that differentiates careers. Couldn't make it up.
That's probably on the then PSG manager Pochettino. Should be a league Messi scores for fun in and only managed six Ligue 1 goals last season.

mrdeeds

#464
December 18, 2022, 10:17:58 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 18, 2022, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2022, 09:17:29 PM
It's like someone above wanted to really draw a line under this debate. Messi was always seen as the beat, but then over the past 6 or 7 years it was Ronaldo who turned into the super clutch player of the two when it came to CL knockout stages and international football. Even at the end of last season, Ronaldo scoring in the PL and Messi barely able to buy a goal in an easier league. How things have completely changed in a few months, with Ronaldo being dropped at United, unable to score and then the big exit. It seemed like he would answer his critics at the World Cup, it definitely seemed impossible that he would have such a bad world cup and be dropped, given his status both globally and in Portugal. But his nightmare continues, the worst run/period in his career has happened to coincide with Messi winning the thing that differentiates careers. Couldn't make it up.
That's probably on the then PSG manager Pochettino. Should be a league Messi scores for fun in and only managed six Ligue 1 goals last season.

Messi has changed his game too though. A great creator now also.
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