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whos the dark horses for the championship and top 4 league finish this season?

always find these predictions interesting. ill start it off with Dungannon being a top 4 side this season

and ill start by ringing you a taxi

haha very good, we'll see come the end of the year

whos the dark horses for the championship and top 4 league finish this season?

always find these predictions interesting. ill start it off with Dungannon being a top 4 side this season

Is Lee Brennan suddenly not rated?

Breenan is an excellent dead ball kicker, probably the best around but i think mcaliskey and bradley are much more effective in open play than him... at county level anyway. Canavan also as inroundthesquare mentioned

If Conor McKenna comes home and is straight into the Tyrone panel, it will be some addition and will massively boost Tyrones chances of an AI title win. 

Imagine a forward line consisting of McCurry, Sludden, Harte, Matty D, McShane, Conor McKenna

Now thats fire power.

I've said it once, I'll say it again, Mickey Harte is the man.  Incredible manager and best man for the job.  Gets McShane to stay and gets Conor McKenna home.  Anyone who wants MH out of the setup would need to have their heads checked.

Imagine that forward line with Lee Brennan in the mix too.

Who is he again??

i would be more interested in mcaliskey or bradley being put into that forward line

Clan na Gael in division 1, fair play to them

How many divisions will there be when they change it

Four divisions from 2021 - first three divisions containing 12 teams each & fourth division containing all other teams, which should be 12 provided no other clubs disband or Errigal Ciaran fold their thirds team by then.

From what I believe there possibly may be a couple new junior teams.

fianna thirds? or what teams do you reckon?

Fianna and Omagh looking to enter teams in Div 3. But think they were both looking to enter Reserve teams only which probably wasn't possible.

Put 1 of them in to play the same fixtures as the Errigals 3rds. That way Errigals opposition do not miss out on a reserve game each week.
Any other team not fielding reserves can carry the other one.

i thought the errigal thirds have a reserve team?

Has anyone got a copy of the Abbey team because I believe they draw players from the biggest clubs in South Down and South Armagh?
Am I right to say they have not reached a final since 2006?

5 Burren
3 Ballyholland
2 Killeavey
1 Silverbridge
1 Mayobridge
1 Warrenpoint
1 Belleek ans 1 I don't know

Not sure about 2006 but sounds about right. Think the Abbey have only ever won it 6 or 7 times in total

Coming from Tyrone, we would always associate St.Colemans as the big footballing school in Newry and the Abbey were always a team that struggled (almost like a second choice school in football terms), they always has 2 or 3 really good players but then the rest of the teams were mediocre players.

How many divisions will there be when they change it

Four divisions from 2021 - first three divisions containing 12 teams each & fourth division containing all other teams, which should be 12 provided no other clubs disband or Errigal Ciaran fold their thirds team by then.

From what I believe there possibly may be a couple new junior teams.

fianna thirds? or what teams do you reckon?

a large number of tyrone clubs entered into the ulster league this year, not sure if there has ever been so many

Have Carmen ever considered a thirds team? Surely they'd easily have the numbers for this. It would be interesting to see how the reserves for biggest teams in the county get on in junior football.

They had one a few years ago.

Yeah, thought they would walk the Junior league IIRC.  Turns out reserve teams are reserve teams for a reason.

speaking of thirds teams, any truth that the fianna are considering thirds team? would certainly have the numbers

Martin Sludden to be commended on his efforts.

if the reserves are on the friday/saturday and not the monday, there's a good chance of being successful

[Briefly Proposal 1...U14/16/18 will all begin end Feb/beginning of March. Fixtures will run U14/18 one week and U16 the next and finish in September. Plenty of matches for underage footballers.]

Proposal is for senior football to start on March 29th with Reserves to move to a stand alone fixture on a Monday night on a Regional basis.
I can see the positives of moving Reserve football to a stand alone fixture but not sure if Monday is the best option for it to work. Maybe a Friday instead as it would better suit students and men working away a lot better.

The proposal on youth football is U14 and U18 to start on February 22nd with U16 starting a week later. I can't see this working at all, especially for smaller clubs who have U14's playing U16 and U16 playing U18.

Was there not similar proposal put forward and defeated last year?

I would think the lads would rather be playing twice a week than training. However it does not leave much room for coaching sessions.
At the moment the gap between ending u-14s (June) and starting u16's (the following August) is too large and that 14 month gap could lead to a lot of drop out of players who are not able to play a grade above themselves.

Something has to be done about the delay of u16 until August because of minors which is in turn delayed by County u-17's and u-20's.

Someone mentioned earlier about a meeting to take place last night. Any update

Yes, meeting took place. Proposals were put forward to clubs, they are to go back to clubs to discuss and meeting will reconvene next Tuesday.

Briefly Proposal 1...U14/16/18 will all begin end Feb/beginning of March. Fixtures will run U14/18 one week and U16 the next and finish in September. Plenty of matches for underage footballers.

Proposal 2...Reserve football will decouple with senior football. There will be 2 regions (east/west) which will be split into 3 divisions. Start end of March and will run weekly and uninterrupted until end of June. Championship then starts finishing at beginning of August. These matches are proposed to be held on Monday evenings throughout the summer.

Proposal 3...Adult football will go to 4 divisions in 2021. (1A, 1B, 2, 3) 12 in each division, play home and away (22 matches). Matches with county players playing worth 4 points for a win, without county players worth 2 points for a win. The reasoning behind the third proposal is to do with upcoming changes at national level. We are looking at county football only from 2021 during May, June, July, August. This plan allows club football to continue during these months without county players. Championship football will remain as is with 16 teams in senior, intermediate and junior.

IMO these are positive changes from CCC, far from perfect but I don't think perfect exists. Last night proved that not everyone will be happy, we had people asking about were handball fits into the system, how reserve players that fly back to play matches will fit in etc. Reserve football is dying a death, the vast majority were happy with the new prosposed system, just not on a Monday night (but what night/day suits?). Proposal 3 is another must or we end up playing a cluster of matches in April and then virtually nothing until August, basically how we are now, if that continues we may as well kiss the club game goodbye.

Don't see the youth proposal working out at all. Take a 15/16 yr old who is on a county panel, if they are good enough to make a county panel then their club will probably also depend on them to play minor club football as well as their u16 club football.
Are they expected to train and play with the county whilst also training and playing with their clubs u16 and u18 teams.

A few years ago the main concern was player burnout, now the main concern is fixtures and they're forgetting about player burnout.

Time to do away with the development squads.  They offer nothing to the clubs.

been saying this for years, telling a lad who's 13/14 y/o that he inst good enough to make a team at that age isn't right. They should just stick to the u16 (possibly) and minor county squads for underage.

[The proposal on youth football is U14 and U18 to start on February 22nd with U16 starting a week later. I can't see this working at all, especially for smaller clubs who have U14's playing U16 and U16 playing U18.]

Proposal is for senior football to start on March 29th with Reserves to move to a stand alone fixture on a Monday night on a Regional basis.
I can see the positives of moving Reserve football to a stand alone fixture but not sure if Monday is the best option for it to work. Maybe a Friday instead as it would better suit students and men working away a lot better.

The proposal on youth football is U14 and U18 to start on February 22nd with U16 starting a week later. I can't see this working at all, especially for smaller clubs who have U14's playing U16 and U16 playing U18.

Was there not similar proposal put forward and defeated last year?

I would think the lads would rather be playing twice a week than training. However it does not leave much room for coaching sessions.
At the moment the gap between ending u-14s (June) and starting u16's (the following August) is too large and that 14 month gap could lead to a lot of drop out of players who are not able to play a grade above themselves.

Something has to be done about the delay of u16 until August because of minors which is in turn delayed by County u-17's and u-20's.

Someone mentioned earlier about a meeting to take place last night. Any update

Yes, meeting took place. Proposals were put forward to clubs, they are to go back to clubs to discuss and meeting will reconvene next Tuesday.

Briefly Proposal 1...U14/16/18 will all begin end Feb/beginning of March. Fixtures will run U14/18 one week and U16 the next and finish in September. Plenty of matches for underage footballers.

Proposal 2...Reserve football will decouple with senior football. There will be 2 regions (east/west) which will be split into 3 divisions. Start end of March and will run weekly and uninterrupted until end of June. Championship then starts finishing at beginning of August. These matches are proposed to be held on Monday evenings throughout the summer.

Proposal 3...Adult football will go to 4 divisions in 2021. (1A, 1B, 2, 3) 12 in each division, play home and away (22 matches). Matches with county players playing worth 4 points for a win, without county players worth 2 points for a win. The reasoning behind the third proposal is to do with upcoming changes at national level. We are looking at county football only from 2021 during May, June, July, August. This plan allows club football to continue during these months without county players. Championship football will remain as is with 16 teams in senior, intermediate and junior.

IMO these are positive changes from CCC, far from perfect but I don't think perfect exists. Last night proved that not everyone will be happy, we had people asking about were handball fits into the system, how reserve players that fly back to play matches will fit in etc. Reserve football is dying a death, the vast majority were happy with the new prosposed system, just not on a Monday night (but what night/day suits?). Proposal 3 is another must or we end up playing a cluster of matches in April and then virtually nothing until August, basically how we are now, if that continues we may as well kiss the club game goodbye.

surely a saturday or friday night is the most logical time to have the reserve games, majority of players away at uni or working away would be home by then and would still have most of their weekend to enjoy.

McDonnell and grugan actually bossed midfield area in first half last night against two Armagh starters. McDonnell showed great pace bursting forward though was wasteful. Wouldn't shock me if like others before he went on to become a decent county player at some point despite online criticism from boys who don't even go to games.

He may become a good county player but would he get this opportunity to become a good county player if he wasn't from Errigal?  There was plenty of players down through the years with great ability that won't afforded this luxury of getting time to prove their worth.

Colm Cavanagh and Cathal McShane are two non Errigal players given the opportunity over a number of years when many had it in for them saying they shouldn't be near the team. Many people have had issues with the chances given to Conall McCann for example. There are numerous other non Errigal players who's inclusion have been questioned at times.

Using Errigal to beat these young lads with is very unfair.

Conall McCann is the worst county footballer Tyrone has ever had.. Id give some of the errigal thirds a run before him

FFS lads use a bit of cop on. There's no need for bitchy comments like this. Fair criticism is fine but no need to try and really put the boot into players who despite what you think of their ability give a lot to Tyrone football. This site has went to f**k lately.

agree with this statement fully, not a forum to destroy players who train nearly every day of the week. Some of the lads on the county team mightn't be playing much or be as good as other players on it but they're still out there every night training and pushing the other lads on, making them better players.

Experience tells me nothing good will come of this transfer.

do you have any examples of club transfers that worked out poorly? not being cheeky, im genuinely interested, always found club transfers to be a strange occurrence