Brexit.

[HiMucker]

This looks like it's going to be a slap in the face for the DUP. Currently reactions seem to show that just the North stays in the common market. SNP jealous, Arlene raging. The North has now been effectively split from the UK.
The writing is on the wall, how can any future UK government justify the block grant for a non constituent UK country?
The will of the UK voter to retain any interest in any part of the island of Ireland will surely be tested and questions will soon be asked by Labour as to why they pay 10 billion quid annually to keep the place afloat...

Every possible outcome is now in play. From this deal, to No Deal, to remaining in the EU, to a second referendum. There doesn't appear to be the numbers in Parliament for any outcome to be voted through. 

IF May can pull this deal off, and IF we can get our politicians to implement it correctly the North might just become one of the most prosperous regions in the UK.

Last bit, I thought the same. Try telling that to a deluded lot in the DUP though.

If it happened, after decades of Britain's policies helping to fcuk the north up in many ways, resulting in it becoming a basket case, now brexit could reverse that.

A lot of football to be played yet though.

Can someone explain or post a link about how this makes the North some kind of golden egg? I'm no economics whizz so I need help.

There is a lot that remains to be seen and explained Donald, but the theory would be that if the North is more aligned with the EU than the rest of UK, then it is reasonable to assume that it would be more advantageous for UK based businesses to have some form of operations in the North. Likewise the other way round. The north may give the EU, UK and global businesses a chance to have a foot in both camps. Like I said, in theory. There is a lot to happen yet, and uncertainty is definitely not good for business.

[Hardy]

The surreal gibberish idea that Brexit always was is pointed up by two outcomes of this deal.

1.   Scottish nationalists, not surprisingly, are saying that if NI can get a sweetheart deal with the EU, they bloody well want the same deal. Meanwhile, the DUP rejects out of hand this deal that could have provided an economic miracle for the "province".

2.   Brexiteers are complaining that the deal gives away sovereignty. These are the people who said they wanted Brexit because they had no sovereignty to give away.

[trailer]

This looks like it's going to be a slap in the face for the DUP. Currently reactions seem to show that just the North stays in the common market. SNP jealous, Arlene raging. The North has now been effectively split from the UK.
The writing is on the wall, how can any future UK government justify the block grant for a non constituent UK country?
The will of the UK voter to retain any interest in any part of the island of Ireland will surely be tested and questions will soon be asked by Labour as to why they pay 10 billion quid annually to keep the place afloat...

Every possible outcome is now in play. From this deal, to No Deal, to remaining in the EU, to a second referendum. There doesn't appear to be the numbers in Parliament for any outcome to be voted through. 

IF May can pull this deal off, and IF we can get our politicians to implement it correctly the North might just become one of the most prosperous regions in the UK.

Would you shtop

NI is nowhere near SE England and never will be

https://www.espon.eu/export/sites/default/Images/Publications/MapsOfTheMonth/Map_Sept_2011/mom_sept_2011-large_legend-final_pict.jpg

Never said it was. Don't get your point. But keep up geography hobby.

[seafoid]

This looks like it's going to be a slap in the face for the DUP. Currently reactions seem to show that just the North stays in the common market. SNP jealous, Arlene raging. The North has now been effectively split from the UK.
The writing is on the wall, how can any future UK government justify the block grant for a non constituent UK country?
The will of the UK voter to retain any interest in any part of the island of Ireland will surely be tested and questions will soon be asked by Labour as to why they pay 10 billion quid annually to keep the place afloat...

Every possible outcome is now in play. From this deal, to No Deal, to remaining in the EU, to a second referendum. There doesn't appear to be the numbers in Parliament for any outcome to be voted through. 

IF May can pull this deal off, and IF we can get our politicians to implement it correctly the North might just become one of the most prosperous regions in the UK.

Last bit, I thought the same. Try telling that to a deluded lot in the DUP though.

If it happened, after decades of Britain's policies helping to fcuk the north up in many ways, resulting in it becoming a basket case, now brexit could reverse that.

A lot of football to be played yet though.

Can someone explain or post a link about how this makes the North some kind of golden egg? I'm no economics whizz so I need help.

NI would be in the single mkt/customs union and Scotland etc would not
But NI had people like Séamie Bryson so effects would cancel each other out.

Otherwise the Ulster Fry could become a crypto currency.

[Main Street]

The surreal gibberish idea that Brexit always was is pointed up by two outcomes of this deal.

1.   Scottish nationalists, not surprisingly, are saying that if NI can get a sweetheart deal with the EU, they bloody well want the same deal. Meanwhile, the DUP rejects out of hand this deal that could have provided an economic miracle for the "province".

2.   Brexiteers are complaining that the deal gives away sovereignty. These are the people who said they wanted Brexit because they had no sovereignty to give away.

It's the dream/illusion of sovereignty post-Brexit, which is being whittled away.
Britain has not the sovereignty to exit "any backstop arrangement that would be in place to prevent a hard Irish border, a key demand of many Tory Brexiters"   

[Rossfan]

Brit Cabinet agree to draft deal!

[OgraAnDun]

Sammy Wilson on Channel 4 News looks like he's staring down the barrel of a cannon. Talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights.

[Dougal Maguire]

Arlene saying she wants to see the text!! It's 580 pages ffs. When she couldn't be arsed reading 3 and 4 pagers on RHI when she was Economy Minister, can't see her spending much time leafing through this.

[yellowcard]

Sammy Wilson spitting feathers on tv and letting the cat out of the bag by using the old 'no deal is better than a bad deal' phrase. Which is really what they yearn for despite their public utterances to the contrary.

Ignoring the fact that economically it's not a bad deal at all for the north given the 'foot in both camp' scenario. Nicola Sturgeon even complained about preferential treatment for the north but Sammy see's it completely differently. Even managing to bring the IRA into the conversation.

[Rossfan]

Sammy Wilson on Channel 4 News looks like he's staring down the barrel of a cannon. Talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights.

Sure who'd have thought the EU and Brits would put the interests of 499,857,000 people ahead of the 143,000 DUPUDA voters😆😅

[weareros]

Tough Parliament vote ahead now. To paraphrase George Hamilton, A nation holds its Brexit.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

Sammy Wilson spitting feathers on tv and letting the cat out of the bag by using the old 'no deal is better than a bad deal' phrase. Which is really what they yearn for despite their public utterances to the contrary.

Ignoring the fact that economically it's not a bad deal at all for the north given the 'foot in both camp' scenario. Nicola Sturgeon even complained about preferential treatment for the north but Sammy see's it completely differently. Even managing to bring the IRA into the conversation.

There is a delicious irony that after years of saving Ulster from sodomy, the DUP have taken a massive one up the hole.  They propped May up long enough to do a deal.  Now she will play the spectre of no deal to get some new allies and as cabinet says "make tough decisions about Northern Ireland".

"The Precious Union" indeed.

/Jim.

[screenexile]

Long way to go with this but fair play to our Teresa she's resilient if nothing else many would have folded long before now they'll have to drag her out of No. 10!

Would love to be a fly on the wall for this meeting with Arlene!!

All being said there's no way this is going through Parliament... interesting few days ahead!

[Smokin Joe]

Here are the NI specifics: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/756375/14_November_Technical_Explanatory_Note_Arts_6-8_Northern_Ireland_Protocol.pdf

It does look like we are in a great position.  We get the best of both worlds.
It could do wonders for our economy, yet the DUP are spitting feathers.  I guess it shows their true colours!

[pbat]

Seamie Bryson's twitter melt down the last 24 hour is priceless.

There will be a lot of anger at the Donaghadee army council meeting tonight. No Surrender.