Brexit.

[screenexile]

So we're basically down to 2 choices ... EU membership in all but name or no deal.

Interesting few days ahead!

[seafoid]

Black Wednesday was 1992 . Sterling was forced out of the ERM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday

The Tories lost their economic mojo and didn't get back in until 2011.
Brexit is going to be even worse for them. Imagine British Airways not knowing if they are going to be able to fly or not.
This is even more complex than senior hurling.

#Jaysus!

[BennyCake]

If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

SF's voters do not want them to swear allegiance to the Queen or take seats in a British Parliament.

Is Stormont not a British parliament?

[Wildweasel74]

All too handy take the money though! Sinn Fein voters vote for them cause its sinn fein; sinn fein could change policy on the morning; and they vote the same regardless!

[seafoid]

If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

SF's voters do not want them to swear allegiance to the Queen or take seats in a British Parliament.

If it is it's not very convincingly British

Is Stormont not a British parliament?

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/13/northern-irish-farmers-brexit-enniskillen

Maguire, who owns and rents farmland and does not want to return to the old days when there was "nothing but trouble" on the border, said: "To be quite honest, nobody knows what's going on."

He fears that if tariffs are put on sheep, his sales market is dead. "The first thing that will go are the sheep. Seventy percent of them go south to be killed. If there's barriers there, the market goes," Maguire said.

For him, the approach of the DUP is unfathomable. The party does not represent border communities and is threatening the livelihoods of farmers on the border, he said. "The DUP are backing themselves into a corner. They are not going to agree unless it's their way or no way. They are holding the government to ransom," Maguire said.

[Chicago Hurling]

Agreement reached?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1113/1010667-brexit-deal/

[Applesisapples]

If SF were in any way concerned about the impact of brexit, why didn't they take their seats in Westminster?

Issues regarding anti-Irish/catholic attacks and Irish language had to be brought up by the Scottish parliament and that Welsh party recently. SF are the only ones able to speak out about the DUP/Tory deal and it's impact on brexit, so why the f**k aren't they doing it?!

SF's voters do not want them to swear allegiance to the Queen or take seats in a British Parliament.

Is Stormont not a British parliament?

No Oath

[Rossfan]

And the last time I checked the map Stormont was in Ireland not Britain.

[seafoid]

And the last time I checked the map Stormont was in Ireland not Britain.

If Irish is thesis Unionist is antithesis
And it goes all the way to the colour of the benches in Stormont

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Buildings_(Northern_Ireland)
"Two separate chambers were provided in the finished parliamentary complex, the blue-benched rectangular House of Commons of Northern Ireland (green benches as at Westminster being considered inappropriate) and the red-benched smaller rectangular Senate of Northern Ireland"

They are pathetic

[BennyCake]

And the last time I checked the map Stormont was in Ireland not Britain.

Yes but it's a British government setup in Ireland. It recognises NI, a NI which is a part of the UK. Therefore, recognising partition. And since SF were actively involved in setting up The assembly at Stormont and running it, they too are recognising the British partition of Ireland.

Would taking their seats at Westminster be much worse than all that?

[seafoid]

And the last time I checked the map Stormont was in Ireland not Britain.

Yes but it's a British government setup in Ireland. It recognises NI, a NI which is a part of the UK. Therefore, recognising partition. And since SF were actively involved in setting up The assembly at Stormont and running it, they too are recognising the British partition of Ireland.

Would taking their seats at Westminster be much worse than all that?

I think SF operate a form of constructive ambiguity regarding Stormont. If they took their seats in Hades it would all fall apart.

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/13/cabinet-members-called-in-to-sign-off-mays-brexit-deal

[Rossfan]

And the last time I checked the map Stormont was in Ireland not Britain.

Yes but it's a British government setup in Ireland. It recognises NI, a NI which is a part of the UK. Therefore, recognising partition. And since SF were actively involved in setting up The assembly at Stormont and running it, they too are recognising the British partition of Ireland.

As a majority of us voted for in 1998.
It's the Oath of Allegiance to the Monarch in Westminister that's their problem.
Anyway the excreta should be hitting the DUPUDA extractor if news reports on the text re avoiding a hard border are accurate.

[seafoid]

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