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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:36:37 PM »

Rois, would your sisterís school get many pupils from Irish medium primary schools? English doesnít seem to cause problems the same way maths does, certainly not initially. Pupils tend to find the terminology for maths difficult to learn, having never heard the word isosceles etc before.

Can understand that re: maths.  Not sure of the numbers these days and perhaps the growth and bedding in of the meanscoil in Belfast over the last couple of decades has meant fewer now attend, but she has certainly had a stream of such pupils over the years (she has been in OLSPK for 20 yrs now, give or take a maternity leave or 3).  We have had a number of discussions on this at different times (and not just about Irish speakers, but other bilingual students).
Getting off topic here, but would it be a case that the bilingual students pick up other languages easier at school?

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:14:21 PM »
I don't understand how someone who has been charged with a crime and is being prosecuted for it cant be called by the prosecution. Can someone try and explain it?
I think one of the legal eagles on here explained it.  Our whole justice system is based on innocent until proven guilty.  The burden of proof  is on the prosecution to determine you are guilty.  Not you to prove that you are innocent. 

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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 15, 2018, 01:08:32 PM »
Stew - it's obvious. I can't believe it has to be explained to you. Nothing is being done to stop the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of US citizens facilitated by the NRA. However, when some Islamist nut commits an atrocity the whole religion is demonised and people from certain countries banned from entering the US. It's a joke except for the seriousness of it.

Did a Muslim commit this atrocity? No! Then how about we focus on the scum that did and more importantly, the victims of the atrocity, how about that.

Or focus on the politicians who continue to let this happen with their refusal to implement any sort of sensible gun reform.
Nows not the time for that..... ::)

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 15, 2018, 10:21:32 AM »
Apologies if this has been said already, but is it the case that the defendants don't have to take the stand.

If the prosecution calls them, can they refuse?
I believe they don't have to.  It is their right to not incriminate themselves.  I stand to be corrected though.

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 14, 2018, 10:27:55 PM »
Adams was right.  They just can't cope with equality.  Power sharing in the North is finished.  Time for Nats/Repubs to focus on Joint Authority and let the Unionists say No to that, and then no to the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing...

A majority of people want power sharing to work. The politicians are failing to make it work.

Where is the majority for joint authority?

Time to get back to government and quit running
Not so sure.  I think the majority of nationalists couldnt give a toss about stormont at this stage.

On your last point, how do you propose that?  Sitting down and agreeing a compromise........? 

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General discussion / Re: Arlene's bigotry shines through
« on: February 14, 2018, 06:05:24 PM »
Jesus what a bunch of w**kers up here.

Why don't both give the other what they want, and in turn they win themselves in the long run.

SF agree to DUP requests - shows unionists that theyd be accommodated in a UI
DUP agree to SF requests - shows nationalists theyre better off in UK, and SF would have nothing to complain about. Support for a UI would diminish.

SF are pushing the ILA so far unionists will despise anything Irish even more (if thats possible) than they do already. And vice versa.

I honestly think Stormont is all about the few in both parties, lining their own pockets, feeding their egos. They don't give a flying fcuk for anyone in this hellhole. But all this shite filters down from Stormont into the general population making it an intolerable cesspit for the ordinary joe.

ffs. Where have you been living your lifetime? at what point does it stop? Nationalists were supposed to have equality - do they? There not being open state-sponsored discrimination is a long way from equality, and its the least that's deserved. The ILA is the vehicle that demonstrates the DUP have no interest in equality - thats how it has gained such prominence. Wake up and look around before falling into the claptrap being repeated by unionists claiming to talk sense. This isn't supposed to be their NI any more, its supposed to belong to all of us. I can see why they find it hard to give up power they've held for decades, i fail to see how you are ignorant enough not to recognise what is really going on here.
100 % agree with this.  That's it in a nutshell.  I get that a lot of nationalists on here don't give a toss about Irish road signs etc. but enough is enough.  How they cant see that I don't know.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 07, 2018, 12:01:48 PM »
He wasnt shot down the first time, but the second time according to her he was

Her allegation is that she willingly kissed Jackson the first time in his room but he tried to take her pants off and she said no.

And thats just what it is, an allegation surely? There are a lot of facts in this case, and there are a lot of allegations, finding the truth isnt easy...
In England pants mean underwear. In the South  pants mean trousers.
What does pants mean in NI ?
It generally means crap.  As in "Some of Seafoids posts are interesting, others are complete pants"

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 06, 2018, 08:31:58 AM »
I'll repost this as I would be interested to hear what those who have already decided that Jackson is guilty think......

From what I've read it sounds like nothing was said when the girl came back to Jackson's room until the 3rd fella came in and she got up and said "how many times does a girl have to say no?". The girl said she went numb and was apparently frozen with fear which is understandable if her version is true but is it possible that Jackson could have interpreted it as consensual if he began kissing her and she didn't try to stop him or seem to him to be objecting in any way?


The evidence of the girl who walked into the room should be vital if she's a reliable witness, in determining whether the girl seemed to be a willing participant or not?

Every question you ask is victim blaming to some but I think it's logical and reasonable to ask why she could say no when there were 3 men there but was too scared to say no when it was just Jackson. She said no the first time she was in the room but not the second(unless she did and it wasn't reported). Why did she feel too scared to do so - was he physically aggressive to her at that stage? These are questions I'd like to hear answered before Id make up my mind if I was a juror. Maybe they were answered but not reported.
I thought I read that she said something like "no not him as well" when Olding walked in??  Open to correction though.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:50:35 PM »
I think the bigger issue here is why did the Judge tell the jury anything.  As far as the law is concerned it's a public court room and would be perfectly entitled to attend the trial without comment from the bench.  I wonder did the jury ask specifically about his attendance.

Because the jury will have read all of the hysteria in social media and in the MSM and will have drawn their own conclusions like we have seen in this thread.

"virtue signaller", "mainstream media"

You guys do realise that you may as well tatoo I-am-totally-biased-against-the-woman on your foreheads when you use alt-right buzz words like that? Anyone who knows the history of the terms knows very well the sort of mindset that is attached to those who use them.
You are thick

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 04, 2018, 04:58:53 PM »
Just on the point a lot of people are making that why would she make it up?  There is plenty of cases that a person can believe they have been raped when they haven't.  Also conversely there is plenty of instances that a person can be raped and the accused believe that it wasn't rape.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 03, 2018, 11:45:11 AM »
Itís a very obvious tactic by the defence lawyers, trying to blacken the victims modus operandi. The rugby players are guilty but I just wish she had been a little more cautious in her night out. It would have a lot of trouble all round.

I dont know if they are guilty or not and hopefully the trial and jury get that right. What I do know is that a series of rotten txts were exchanged afterwards and that in itself is unbecoming of a professional sport person. The fact that a current irish captain then sees fit to support the authors of same txts from the gallery is just baffling. Its not too late to drop Best but i fear they won't. its a clear message from the IRFU to the alleged victim "we don't believe you". Not good enough

I think the text between herself and her pal will damage her. It's the defence barristers job to test her evidence and that's why she's getting a roasting in the witness box
what was the text been herself and the pal that could cause problems?

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 09:00:13 PM »
Heís happier when attacking posters than dealing with the facts

From the lad who claims to have read the report and immediately goes and contradicts it thatís a bit rich. You opened yourself to attack by trying to shovel baseless dirt on the victim.

The fact some people try to hide their disbelief of the victim behind legalise or petty insults highlights that some part of their lizard brain tells them theyíre in hot water on this issue. It goes without saying that victim-blaming is abhorant and many of those who support its continuation donít even realise thatís what theyíre doing.
She's not a victim yet. She could have been a willing participant.

Explain why it's a court case, then. What does the woman get out of this added ordeal, one she was very reticent to even do at the time of the incident because of exactly your sort of reactions to it?
Syferus to be honest I would agree with a lot of the conclusions and points you have made regarding this.  From the evidence that I have read I think they are guilty as sin in my opinion.  But that is all it is, an opinion.  The jurors will have far more evidence, and for you to condemn other posters on here for having a different opinion, one that is fairly moderate in that the outcome could be very different, or that they want to wait until the conclusion of the  trial before making judgement, is sanctimonious in the extreme.  I made a comment that I found another posters statement embarrassing, however it would be one that I'm sure my own mother would come out with, and I would be embarrassed if she said it in public, but she is neither rancid, disgusting or any of the plethora of other hyperbolic adjectives your throwing around here at others.  You see everything in black and white, and right and wrong. The real world is much different.  You would do well to listen to other people's opinions and even if you dont agree, atleast try to understand where they might be coming from.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 12:55:32 PM »
Whatever happens, it is the end of the career of two or three rugby players. In fact, I have no idea where they will get work, and will probably have to emigrate.

Add a stupid girl to stupid drunk rugby players and the result is that everyone looses except the lawyers. Very sad.

Why is she 'stupid'?

She didn't connect going into the rugby player's bedroom with danger.

Jesus f**king wept.

Explain.
Its embarrassing lad.  Going back to the house, and going in to anyones room shouldn't spell danger.  This sort of thing happens every bloody night of the week the world over.  99.9% of the time it doesn't end up with some girl in hysterics.  Its called life.  Im sure they didn't have rapist tattooed on their heads.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 11:42:54 AM »
In my view, they were perfectly entitled to attend if they want but, at best, it was highly ill advised, particularly ahead of the match on Saturday.

The IRFU and Schmidt have whiffed badly on it.

Don't be ridiculous

Of course he could comment on it but, if he criticised either of them for doing so, the defence/prosecution could use his status as Irish head coach to paint any criticism as implying something else.

If people want this case to stick and not collapse Schmidt did the right thing.

Stupid question to asking him to comment on a live trial. Journalists can be stupid.

This is obviously too close to home for you Dinny as there's nothing ridiculous about it. As for the whole "could prejudice the case" spiel, we're perfectly entitled to discuss it and debate the merits of the case

He was not asked about a live trial, he was asked about the decision of his captain and another player to attend said trial. It was a perfectly valid question from a journalism perspective and, as I said, one he completely whiffed on.

No Schmidt is a senior figure in the organisation that employs Henderson, Best and both the accused in a "Live" Trial. Anything he says can be misconstrued by either the defence or the prosecution, so when he says it's a legal matter he is right. If people want justice then asking Schmidt stupid questions that could lead to a collapse is not helpful and pretty stupid.

Henderson and Best were there in a private capacity which is quite frankly their business, what makes the public think they have an entitled to question people supporting their friends when their friends have not been found guilty of anything. This isn't the same as Kimmage, Cusack and Walsh supporting the pedophile Humphries after he was found guilty.
I actually think yous are both right.  The journalist was perfectly entitled to ask the question, such is the public interest, and Schmidt was perfectly entitled to say it was legal matter and he is not discussing it.  I think that was the right way to handle it.

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General discussion / Re: Laptops
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:25:06 AM »
Check out techradar reviews for laptops.  They are very good.  I'm also in the hunt for one.  There is a few Lenovo ones that are getting great reviews. 

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