All Ireland Quarter Final;Roscommon v Mayo Sunday July 30th

Started by maigheo, July 23, 2017, 01:51:01 PM

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Syferus

Quote from: joemamas on July 25, 2017, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 25, 2017, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on July 25, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Massive crowds



https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?

I think it may be outside Hyde Park, nice parking btw  ::)

It's out the Oran road in the town, the CB offices are there and not at the Hyde.

I suppose it wouldn't look like much to people who have Prenty's millions on tap, but we are an amateur county after all.

rosnarun

Quote from: Syferus on July 25, 2017, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 25, 2017, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on July 25, 2017, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on July 25, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Massive crowds



https://www.facebook.com/mary.cox.1213986/posts/854017948107946
Is that the Ballroom of Romance?

I think it may be outside Hyde Park, nice parking btw  ::)

It's out the Oran road in the town, the CB offices are there and not at the Hyde.

I suppose it wouldn't look like much to people who have Prunty's millions on tap, but we are an amateur county after all.

that some crowd for a non sheep related event in Roscommon.
thank god for the season tickets
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Maroon Manc

On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.


manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?

Blowitupref

Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.

Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.


Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Crete Boom

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 25, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?

Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.

seafoid

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.

Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.


Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Blowitupref

Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.

Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.


Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
Playing to the right system to get the best out of your players has been Galways problems over the years. You are doing something seriously wrong if you only get 2 or 3 seniors out of 4 provincial winning U21 teams.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

seafoid

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.

Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.


Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
Playing to the right system to get the best out of your players has been Galways problems over the years. You are doing something seriously wrong if you only get 2 or 3 seniors out of 4 provincial winning U21 teams.
Not necessarily. The ideal situation is where you have a core of experienced players in the team so that the young ones can learn from them. Galway had very few of those at the time.

Limerick hurlers would be a good example. They won 3 under 21s in a row 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Crete Boom on July 25, 2017, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 25, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?

Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2017, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
I think it's more like Donegal and Cavan don't have the players or the system at the moment. Neither did much in the league. Monaghan are a bit off their peak of a year or 2 ago.

Ros targeted Galway's weak point which was the kickout. They scored 1-3 from it.
that gave them the momentum to win the match.
Cavan won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014, don't have the players? this year was their first year back in Div one for a long time, they were still in with a chance of staying up in round 7 having beaten Mayo in MacHale park,drew with Monaghan and Kerry. Donegal finished 3rd in Div one this year only missed out on the final on scoring difference. Jury is out on Monaghan if they have peaked or not they have a mixture of youth and experience on their team now and another All Ireland quarter final appearance for them has to be considered another good years work.


Generally to win any match you must play to your strengths and attack the weak points of the oppsotion as best you can.
Galway won 3x u21 all Irelands recently and don't have all the players they need
4x u21 provincial might get you 2 or 3 seniors
Playing to the right system to get the best out of your players has been Galways problems over the years. You are doing something seriously wrong if you only get 2 or 3 seniors out of 4 provincial winning U21 teams.

From the 2011 & 2103 AI wining u21 teams only Flynn, Walsh, Comer & Burke started  with Cummins coming off the bench. FOC was injured on Saturday. I'd say thats a fairly disappointing return from those 2 teams. Daithi Burke would more than likely be on the panel if he wasn't such an outstanding hurler. Yet there was 5 players from the 2015 u21 team who didn't win Connacht playing against Donegal last Saturday in Comer, Kerin, Brannigan, Heaney & Silke.


manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 25, 2017, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 25, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?

Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship


Crete Boom

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 25, 2017, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 25, 2017, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 25, 2017, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 25, 2017, 05:23:35 PM
On a positive note Mayo's point taking was fantastic on Saturday with very wides but the alternative view is that despite Mayo's impressive display in front of the post they were taken to extra time by an average div 2 side.
true
Cork were admiring the shooting most of the game too
whats Mayo's average score in normal time in this year's championship?

Mayo's average score for our 5 championship games in normal time is 18 points per game.
The Mayo average score this time last year going into the Quarter final was 20 points per game and all that was needed to win the quarter final was 13 points against a wasteful Tyrone.
interesting
so it has reduced by 2 per game?
and teams usually tighten up and score less as they progress in the championship

Well factor in we did play London who were very weak last year so this probably skewed our average a bit.