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#1
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 17, 2016, 04:16:13 PM
Gentlemen, gentlemen , Gentlemen. You will never learn.

I will come back here when somebody gets the books opened from each of the 32 county boards over the last 30 years so we can analyse them.

Also, just want to highlight PortLaois lost for the first time in 10 years in the Laois Senior football championship. They had more population and money Id imagine than the rest of the teams in Laois but being the major town in Laois they always had the resources.

Enjoy the winter. Mine will be short and enjoyable watching reruns of the All Ireland run.  ;)

#2
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 17, 2016, 02:06:31 PM
Again nobody had a problem with it when Dublin weren't winning, it seems success brings out the worst in opposition fans, Tyrone and Kerry go it in the noughties too.

Anyway, All Ireland champions again, Nothing will ever take away from the enjoyment of all Irelands in 6 years, nothing.


Quote from: mup on October 17, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 17, 2016, 09:26:01 AM
Your right Indiana, no point debating with ignorance and 31 county bias. Best to just ignore.

I wonder how many of this board have done something to assist their own county rather than spouting on boards with BS.

You are not too bad at spouting the old bs yourself.

Still waiting for figures on what McGeeney was paid in Kildare. Its ok to be wrong ya know.

How bout you prove im wrong.
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 17, 2016, 09:26:01 AM
Your right Indiana, no point debating with ignorance and 31 county bias. Best to just ignore.

I wonder how many of this board have done something to assist their own county rather than spouting on boards with BS.



#4
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 16, 2016, 04:40:07 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-the-counties-whining-about-dublins-advantages-are-missing-the-point-entirely-35132361.html

Let's get something straight here though. This Dublin team is a special group and that's not down to money or the number of coaches in the city. Think about when Stephen Cluxton quits or Cian O'Sullivan quits or Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn or Michael Darragh Macauley.....we're talking once-off players here.

Do you honestly believe that there'll just be some seamless kind of hand-over to men of a similar standard? If you do, can I ask you what's the weather like in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
October 12, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
Just so I have this right between this thread and the all Ireland final thread.

Dublin peno was never a peno.
Dublin should have received 6 black cards.
Dublin should have received 5 yellows.
Dublin should have received 2 reds.
Dublin should have conceded 12 more frees than they should have.
Dublin should not be back to back all Ireland champions.
Some of you are comparing our game to rugby.
Accusations of a head butt that one person he alleged he saw but 82,000 spectators and millions watching around the world missed.
Dublin were lucky.
Poor Mayo
Poor Aiden O Shea.
Poor Cillian O Connor, poor thing.

Just wondering how Dublin won it in the end and led nearly the whole 160 minutes of play except for a couple of bloopers in the first half of the replay.

Again gentlemen, enjoy the winter, and winter well because by the sound of it, some of you are going to find it quite difficult to get through knowing that Sam is resting at home in Dublin.






#6
There was one so called Journo asking questions about it, have a guess, yes that's right, Spewan McKenna.

I'm going to take some time of work and watching every game in the league and championship in slow motion and come on here and write about and throw wild accusations around. Unmoderated!!


#7
Did Mayo do anything wrong in the final? All the over analysis seems to be of Dublin incidents but perhaps that's one of the reasons they are All Ireland champions again, ruthlessness.
#8
Quote from: blast05 on October 10, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/tommy-conlon-record-books-dont-factor-in-mayos-luckless-run-in-the-refereeing-lottery-35114617.html

The very last sentence it captures it perfectly re Mayo fans
The only place i have seen anger and frustration from Mayo fans is on this forum .... in response to arrogant, ungracious and ignorant Dublin posts

Dublin fans aren't the ones targeting their own players online. They need to look at themselves for a change and stop blaming other external factors.
#9
Lots of whinging being done, Brolly's article should have been about the fans. Time to move on I think.
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 06, 2016, 12:47:08 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 06, 2016, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 06, 2016, 12:34:37 PM
A picture of Ireland with some numbers on it, wow, show me signed off audited accounts and expenses and wages for all councils and county boards, then we can have a discussion.
Read the top of the graph. More than numbers there.

I did, what official signed off accounts did this come from. There is no letterhead or logo at the top. And its just a basic graph that shows Dublin got more, of course Dublin gets the most funding, there is a thing called a capital city and within this city usually contains a large population, schools, clubs, etc.

Lets discuss the mismanagement of finances of county boards over the last 20 years? Might start a new thread on it and include why no plan or vision put forward ever by some county boards.!!
#11
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 06, 2016, 12:34:37 PM
A picture of Ireland with some numbers on it, wow, show me signed off audited accounts and expenses and wages for all councils and county boards, then we can have a discussion.
#12
Quote from: sid waddell on October 06, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
For all the talk about the forwards and ability to score, here's a few stats.

In Mayo's four All-Ireland finals since 2012 inclusive, they've got a total of 58 scores to their opponents' combined 54.

In their six championship matches against Dublin since 2012 inclusive, Mayo have got 95 scores to Dublin's 89.

The clear difference is goals.

Dublin have got 10 goals over the course of those 6 games, Mayo have got 4, and never more than 1 in any single game.

Of those 10 Dublin goals:
2 were own goals
2 were penalties (one wrongly awarded - the one in the 2015 drawn game as the foul was outside the penalty area, the other a result of a catastrophic goalkeeping error)
2 clear goalkeeping errors (Brogan 2013, McMahon 2015 replay)
4 others

The difference is Dublin don't do errors that lead to goals in big games and don't leak too many goals. They have made errors though in lesser games.

Mayo lost by a point over 160 minutes of football, could have gone either way, fair play to them and guaranteed to get back to the final next year.
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 06, 2016, 08:46:37 AM
Quote from: mup on October 06, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 06, 2016, 08:23:14 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on October 05, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 05, 2016, 08:48:01 AM
There has been 42 other threads on this, no need for a new one. Those figures don't show truth in my opinion.

If someone has the stats of how many 7 to 18 years old play in Dublin compared to the rest of the counties please?

Anyway greatest thing Dublin have done, its great to give the resources to the children of the city to promote our national game. Well done Dublin county board.

With 42 other threads on this, would the stats of how many 7 to 18 years old play in Dublin not be in at least one of them, your Grace?

Unfortunately all the other threads are full of incorrect stats, ignorant posters, people who don't live in Dublin or surrounding areas, not members of Dublin clubs or have children in Dublin clubs and also their hate for Dublin blinds them to the truth and are blind to the true reality on the ground in Dublin. My mate is a GDO, I asked him what he did, il transfer to this later today but gives a good insight to what he does and it mainly focuses around primary schools. Its really a great initiative to get children interested in our national games in the countries biggest cosmopolitan areas of the capital.

Best to ignore spoofers and liars like Spewan McKenna. All he cares about is posting on twitter and slating Dublin, not just on finances but all targets individual players, look at his tweets during the match itself. Never heard him write about McGeeney's extraordinary wages when st Kildare when players had to fund raise to fund their own Gym and in some cases help build it.

Any gentlemen enjoy the winter. Time to focus on the real GAA which is club championship.

Ok I'm going to ask you this once more. I'm a Kildare man and I'm not aware of how much McGeeneys extraordinary wages when he was in Kildare.

Can you provide a link and proof of how much he was supposedly on?

Did no one ask him at the Croke Park legends tour ?  ;)

If you want to know ask Kildare County board to open the books but doubt that will happen as they would be terrified of what people would see.
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 06, 2016, 08:23:14 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on October 05, 2016, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 05, 2016, 08:48:01 AM
There has been 42 other threads on this, no need for a new one. Those figures don't show truth in my opinion.

If someone has the stats of how many 7 to 18 years old play in Dublin compared to the rest of the counties please?

Anyway greatest thing Dublin have done, its great to give the resources to the children of the city to promote our national game. Well done Dublin county board.

With 42 other threads on this, would the stats of how many 7 to 18 years old play in Dublin not be in at least one of them, your Grace?

Unfortunately all the other threads are full of incorrect stats, ignorant posters, people who don't live in Dublin or surrounding areas, not members of Dublin clubs or have children in Dublin clubs and also their hate for Dublin blinds them to the truth and are blind to the true reality on the ground in Dublin. My mate is a GDO, I asked him what he did, il transfer to this later today but gives a good insight to what he does and it mainly focuses around primary schools. Its really a great initiative to get children interested in our national games in the countries biggest cosmopolitan areas of the capital.

Best to ignore spoofers and liars like Spewan McKenna. All he cares about is posting on twitter and slating Dublin, not just on finances but all targets individual players, look at his tweets during the match itself. Never heard him write about McGeeney's extraordinary wages when st Kildare when players had to fund raise to fund their own Gym and in some cases help build it.

Any gentlemen enjoy the winter. Time to focus on the real GAA which is club championship.
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
October 05, 2016, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on October 05, 2016, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on October 05, 2016, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on October 05, 2016, 10:39:40 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on October 05, 2016, 09:45:35 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 05, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on October 05, 2016, 12:18:27 AM
The 3 lowest teams there are 3 of the biggest underachievers in recent years in terms of population in Cork, Galway and Kildare. Kerry are doing ok but they have massive revenue from sponsorship and donations. Meath's and Down are two other teams who should be getting better looked after. Tyrone and Donegal are doing very well with limited support but they have good income streams.

how much did the Garvaghey Cebtre cost?

Its an absolute disgrace and its been going on for years. Even the NFL the most professional organisation going have a system in place to try and level the playing field. The GAA will sit and do nothing until its too late.

I don't know what garvaghey to do with it. We have a good system in place for raising funds from supporters and have loans which are being paid back? Whats your point about Garvaghey. Dublin have just build a fracility that dwarfs it

You can replace the word 'build' with 'been given', I think.

Lies. Please call up that centre whatever its called and ask for a full list of teams, ages, gender that have used the pitches and facilities since it opened, let me know how you get on.

And Jinxy its a great facility for Meath teams to use at inter and club level so don't know why you would not be happy with location.

Did Dublin build it?

Were Dublin  given it?