The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: dec on June 04, 2020, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 04, 2020, 10:29:41 PM
That story was not on The front page of The NY Times Website

Multiple stories per day disparaging law enforcement were

There are multiple stories per day about the violence as well. Just because there is one particular story that you couldn't find does not mean that the New York Times is covering anything up.

Here is today's front page of the print edition https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/04/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf

This story is on the front page https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/nyregion/george-floyd-bronx-protests-looting.html

You're wasting your time. He's obsessed.

He can add the story of the cops getting injured to the Joe Biden sexual assault and the Bernie Sanders articles he will wheel out every few weeks between now and the election to convince us all that the New York Times and liberals are evil and conservatism is, somehow, therefore the way.

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J70

The NY Times is so intent on pissing all over the police that they have, to date... wait for it... ZERO articles about Officer Murashea Bovell, a whistleblower who kept records of all kinds of terrible misconduct over the past few years in the Mount Vernon police. Mount Vernon literally borders the Bronx to the north and is closer to Manhattan than many parts of Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island. The Gothamist, an NPR-afilitated local news website carried the story yesterday, but the Times has yet to bite. Didn't even make it to the bottom of the Metro section yet.

https://gothamist.com/news/mount-vernon-police-tapes-innocent-people-were-framed

J70

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 05, 2020, 01:00:51 AM
Not likely of course, but here's an interesting article on a city that did just that (and then started a smaller less aggressive police force).  https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/

Wow!

Camden used to be notorious, a basic no-go area 15 years ago. If what the article says is true, it does offer promise.

I see a reference in there to DeBlasio and the ending of stop-and-frisk. Come to think of it, there hasn't been much word of that lately at all, after all the doomsday predictions up until a year or two ago. It was resurrected for a few weeks last Christmas after a young female student was killed by young black teenagers outside Columbia University in a robbery gone wrong, but little since.

omaghjoe

Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2020, 11:44:17 PM
What "mob"?
White polismen who kill black suspects?

https://www.latimes.com/visuals/graphics/la-me-g-lapd-race-20150319-htmlstory.html

Sometimes I truly get the impression that Irish (and most other european nationalities tbf) people are truly out of touch with reality in America despite having very strong opinions on how America should do things. I do understand this I was that person

sid waddell

Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 01:42:08 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 05, 2020, 12:54:41 AM
Quote from: Gmac on June 04, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
The mayor of Los Angeles says he will cut 100-150 m of budget to police , not a very rational step after what we have seen in last 2 weeks . Appeasing the mob .
A much more rational step would be to disband the mob that is the LAPD rather than appease them.

https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/1268673244715859968

ABC7 Eyewitness News
@ABC7
SHOCKING VIDEO: LAPD officers seen striking protesters with batons in Fairfax district confrontation
if you lived in la and someone was breaking into your house who would you call ?
If I was a black person in LA in such a situation I'd sooner call Ghostbusters than I'd call the LAPD.


sid waddell

Quote from: omaghjoe on June 05, 2020, 02:25:58 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2020, 11:44:17 PM
What "mob"?
White polismen who kill black suspects?

https://www.latimes.com/visuals/graphics/la-me-g-lapd-race-20150319-htmlstory.html

Sometimes I truly get the impression that Irish (and most other european nationalities tbf) people are truly out of touch with reality in America despite having very strong opinions on how America should do things. I do understand this I was that person
Perhaps you should consider it may be yourself who is truly out of touch with reality.

sid waddell

Reality:

https://twitter.com/WBFO/status/1268712530358292484

WBFO
@WBFO
Just about an hour ago, police officers shove man in Niagara Square to the ground (WARNING: Graphic). Video from:
@MikeDesmondWBFO

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 02:02:02 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 05, 2020, 01:00:51 AM
Not likely of course, but here's an interesting article on a city that did just that (and then started a smaller less aggressive police force).  https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/

Wow!

Camden used to be notorious, a basic no-go area 15 years ago. If what the article says is true, it does offer promise.

I see a reference in there to DeBlasio and the ending of stop-and-frisk. Come to think of it, there hasn't been much word of that lately at all, after all the doomsday predictions up until a year or two ago. It was resurrected for a few weeks last Christmas after a young female student was killed by young black teenagers outside Columbia University in a robbery gone wrong, but little since.

Yeah, between that and the budget cuts to LAPD, there might be hope of rethinking policing.

Gmac

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 05, 2020, 03:12:13 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 02:02:02 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 05, 2020, 01:00:51 AM
Not likely of course, but here's an interesting article on a city that did just that (and then started a smaller less aggressive police force).  https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/

Wow!

Camden used to be notorious, a basic no-go area 15 years ago. If what the article says is true, it does offer promise.

I see a reference in there to DeBlasio and the ending of stop-and-frisk. Come to think of it, there hasn't been much word of that lately at all, after all the doomsday predictions up until a year or two ago. It was resurrected for a few weeks last Christmas after a young female student was killed by young black teenagers outside Columbia University in a robbery gone wrong, but little since.

Yeah, between that and the budget cuts to LAPD, there might be hope of rethinking policing.
sounds like Minneapolis are breaking up there pd to set up a different  type of entity

Jell 0 Biafra

Might work too if they just get rid of the racist murderers and their enablers.

omaghjoe

Quote from: sid waddell on June 05, 2020, 02:33:18 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 05, 2020, 02:25:58 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2020, 11:44:17 PM
What "mob"?
White polismen who kill black suspects?

https://www.latimes.com/visuals/graphics/la-me-g-lapd-race-20150319-htmlstory.html

Sometimes I truly get the impression that Irish (and most other european nationalities tbf) people are truly out of touch with reality in America despite having very strong opinions on how America should do things. I do understand this I was that person
Perhaps you should consider it may be yourself who is truly out of touch with reality.

I have considered that... but then I also consider the homogeneous simplistic way that I used to view the states vs the recognition of the complex diverse 50 states that I am actually living in and you can see which version I'd prob trust more.

Taylor

Quote from: omaghjoe on June 05, 2020, 05:05:36 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on June 05, 2020, 02:33:18 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 05, 2020, 02:25:58 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2020, 11:44:17 PM
What "mob"?
White polismen who kill black suspects?

https://www.latimes.com/visuals/graphics/la-me-g-lapd-race-20150319-htmlstory.html

Sometimes I truly get the impression that Irish (and most other european nationalities tbf) people are truly out of touch with reality in America despite having very strong opinions on how America should do things. I do understand this I was that person
Perhaps you should consider it may be yourself who is truly out of touch with reality.

I have considered that... but then I also consider the homogeneous simplistic way that I used to view the states vs the recognition of the complex diverse 50 states that I am actually living in and you can see which version I'd prob trust more.

You're wasting your time Joe, he's obsessed

whitey

Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 01:55:14 AM
The NY Times is so intent on pissing all over the police that they have, to date... wait for it... ZERO articles about Officer Murashea Bovell, a whistleblower who kept records of all kinds of terrible misconduct over the past few years in the Mount Vernon police. Mount Vernon literally borders the Bronx to the north and is closer to Manhattan than many parts of Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island. The Gothamist, an NPR-afilitated local news website carried the story yesterday, but the Times has yet to bite. Didn't even make it to the bottom of the Metro section yet.

https://gothamist.com/news/mount-vernon-police-tapes-innocent-people-were-framed

J70....did you see what happened with Tom Cottons op ed?  Makes the NT Times look seriously stupid

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/501249-nyt-says-tom-cotton-editorial-did-not-meet-our-standards%3famp

glens73


J70

Quote from: whitey on June 05, 2020, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 01:55:14 AM
The NY Times is so intent on pissing all over the police that they have, to date... wait for it... ZERO articles about Officer Murashea Bovell, a whistleblower who kept records of all kinds of terrible misconduct over the past few years in the Mount Vernon police. Mount Vernon literally borders the Bronx to the north and is closer to Manhattan than many parts of Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island. The Gothamist, an NPR-afilitated local news website carried the story yesterday, but the Times has yet to bite. Didn't even make it to the bottom of the Metro section yet.

https://gothamist.com/news/mount-vernon-police-tapes-innocent-people-were-framed

J70....did you see what happened with Tom Cottons op ed?  Makes the NT Times look seriously stupid

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/501249-nyt-says-tom-cotton-editorial-did-not-meet-our-standards%3famp

Yes, it does. The world wasn't waiting to hear from Tom Cotton so urgently that they couldn't have demanded some changes first, instead of rushing it to print without proper review.

And if he refused, I'm sure there were plenty of other papers who'd take a piece from a prominent US Senator.