A revenge mission if ever there was one.
Despite the big win Sunday improvements are needed.
Hopefully those improvements will happen which should get us through to the CF v London/ Rhus/ Galway.
Before the comedians start I'll get it in - venue is the Hyde till further notice, then Carrick.
Wouldnt say revenge Sligo deserved it last year
2010 was much sweeter anyway
The Ros forwards took a while to get going. Sligo should be a step up from Leitrim and if they can hold their own in midfield they might be able to give Ros a rattle.
Rossfan, after lecturing a different poster on how to spell Laois, just remember it's Sligo, not Shligo you're playing ;)
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2016, 01:37:27 PM
Rossfan, after lecturing a different poster on how to spell Laois, just remember it's Sligo, not Shligo you're playing ;)
It's the way we say it ;D
Wait till we get to Meeyoweshtros!
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
No way we would have been humiliated like Sligo were. Mayo were a one trick pony who saw how much ball a badly injured Senan Kilbride won on McDonnell in the semi and decided to lump everything on top of AOS.
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
No way we would have been humiliated like Sligo were. Mayo were a one trick pony who saw how much ball a badly injured Senan Kilbride won on McDonnell in the semi and decided to lump everything on top of AOS.
A one-trick pony! FFS, you've completely disappeared up your own hole and it still only May!
Quote from: Tubberman on May 24, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
FFS, you've completely disappeared up your own hole and it still only May!
;D
Poor Syfín does leave himself open to abuse at tines.
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Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
No way we would have been humiliated like Sligo were. Mayo were a one trick pony who saw how much ball a badly injured Senan Kilbride won on McDonnell in the semi and decided to lump everything on top of AOS.
A one-trick pony! FFS, you've completely disappeared up your own hole and it still only May!
Exactly what other tricks did ye show against Dublin?
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
In 2014 Roscommon only lost by one point to Mayo. Last years Connacht final was a freak result, it was as much about a woeful defensive display by Sligo on the day that anything else IMO. Sligo are much better than that and they showed it with their competitive performance in the 2012 Connacht final.
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 24, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
No way we would have been humiliated like Sligo were. Mayo were a one trick pony who saw how much ball a badly injured Senan Kilbride won on McDonnell in the semi and decided to lump everything on top of AOS.
A one-trick pony! FFS, you've completely disappeared up your own hole and it still only May!
Exactly what other tricks did ye show against Dublin?
It take a lot more than one trick to win 5 Connacht titles in a row ladeen, and more tricks again to win 5 All-Ireland quarter finals in a row.
It also takes quite a bit to win a Connacht final by 26 points, or bring the current Dublin team to a replay in an AISF.
All feats you're never likely to enjoy other than when Ros are beaten and you jump on the Mayo bandwagon again.
Quote from: Tubberman on May 24, 2016, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 24, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
::) we saved ye from an unmerciful hammering, you should be thanking us, ye got lucky again
Who knows whoever loses this game could be far better off, neither have a hope in the final unless Galway pull off major shock imo
No way we would have been humiliated like Sligo were. Mayo were a one trick pony who saw how much ball a badly injured Senan Kilbride won on McDonnell in the semi and decided to lump everything on top of AOS.
A one-trick pony! FFS, you've completely disappeared up your own hole and it still only May!
Exactly what other tricks did ye show against Dublin?
It take a lot more than one trick to win 5 Connacht titles in a row ladeen, and more tricks again to win 5 All-Ireland quarter finals in a row.
It also takes quite a bit to win a Connacht final by 26 points, or bring the current Dublin team to a replay in an AISF.
All feats you're never likely to enjoy other than when Ros are beaten and you jump on the Mayo bandwagon again.
I was commenting on Mayo in the Connacht final last year, buckaroo. It was you that decided I meant the last five years.
Roscommon will beat Sligo with ease, they will then convince themselves they are all Ireland contenders and Mayo will beat the shite out of them in the final.
Quote from: Itchy on May 24, 2016, 06:12:18 PM
Roscommon will beat Sligo with ease, they will then convince themselves they are all Ireland contenders and Mayo will beat the shite out of them in the final.
Don't forget the part where we give Cavan an almighty hammering in the Quailifers.
Could we please discuss the match in question not feckin Rhabarbia or bloody Cavan.
Thanks.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 06:32:44 PM
Could we please discuss the match in question not feckin Rhabarbia or bloody Cavan.
Thanks.
No
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 06:32:44 PM
Could we please discuss the match in question not feckin Rhabarbia or bloody Cavan.
Thanks.
I was, but Syphillis cannot help himself.
It is one of the more interesting games in this Championship, both teams have improved somewhat since last year. The winning of the game for Sligo last year was the failure of Roscommon to push up on the Sligo kick outs which were excellent that day. That was madness considering Sligo had no midfield outlet. This year you would not expect the same mistake but Sligo now have a long option in McIntyre who has looked like a top class midfielder, the second best I've seen all year in division 3 after Gary Brennan.
Sligo are also very mobile which might not suit Roscommon. Where Sligo are weak though is their wastefulness which means that they would need to dominate to win where Roscommon have a far more potent and accurate attack.
It should be a fascinating contest that Roscommon probably should win but Sligo are a big price at 7/2 and are sure to be backing themselves to win like last year.
Huh? Why would mobile teams not suit us? We've a very undersized team. Mobility is not a problem at all.
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 09:34:18 PM
Huh? Why would mobile teams not suit us? We've a very undersized team. Mobility is not a problem at all.
Because your side are slow as cows stuck in mud.
Stick to Ulster muck. Ya obviously never saw oul' Seànie Mac and as usual don't know what you're talking about
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Stick to Ulster muck. Ya obviously never saw oul' Seànie Mac and as usual don't know what you're talking about
I've seen Roscommon a lot on TV over the past 2 years and whenever anyone ups the tempo against them and plays at a high intensity - they simply cannot cope. That's why ye seem to do reasonably well in the league with the soft slow pitches but as soon as the ground hardens up it suits the teams with the runners and the speed and who can play the game at a high tempo, your championship failure backs that up.
As much as you may like to think you are, Roscommon are not a serious team.
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 09:34:18 PM
Huh? Why would mobile teams not suit us? We've a very undersized team. Mobility is not a problem at all.
Basing it on the Kerry game a couple of your defenders struggled to get close to the Kerry forwards at all, which can happen easily enough. Both Donal and Cathal Shine struggled big time around the middle too. There is very good pace in your forward line and Mullooly looked quick at half back. I didn't think ye were undersized though, a couple of younger players could do with another year of S & C but you'd probably know better.
Sligo won't move the ball as quick as Kerry but out of all the division 3 team I seen this year they impressed me the most with their running game. If they weren't as wasteful in front of goals they'd be a rather good team. I'm still expecting a contest.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 24, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Stick to Ulster muck. Ya obviously never saw oul' Seànie Mac and as usual don't know what you're talking about
I've seen Roscommon a lot on TV over the past 2 years and whenever anyone ups the tempo against them and plays at a high intensity - they simply cannot cope. That's why ye seem to do reasonably well in the league with the soft slow pitches but as soon as the ground hardens up it suits the teams with the runners and the speed and who can play the game at a high tempo, your championship failure backs that up.
As much as you may like to think you are, Roscommon are not a serious team.
right
coming from a Tyrone man, who have three senior all irelands. one more than Roscommon
sure ye never even did the two in a row!
you are probably right.
It doesn't help when the likes of Tyrone and Dublin have multiple modern sand based pitches to train and play on all winter and through the summer.
Roscommon don't even have a pitch at their main ground to use as its not fit to put sheep on and the centre of excellence is still a green field.
Having proper facilities to use has a huge bearing on a teams preparation
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 24, 2016, 10:31:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2016, 09:34:18 PM
Huh? Why would mobile teams not suit us? We've a very undersized team. Mobility is not a problem at all.
Basing it on the Kerry game a couple of your defenders struggled to get close to the Kerry forwards at all, which can happen easily enough. Both Donal and Cathal Shine struggled big time around the middle too. There is very good pace in your forward line and Mullooly looked quick at half back. I didn't think ye were undersized though, a couple of younger players could do with another year of S & C but you'd probably know better.
Sligo won't move the ball as quick as Kerry but out of all the division 3 team I seen this year they impressed me the most with their running game. If they weren't as wasteful in front of goals they'd be a rather good team. I'm still expecting a contest.
Collins and Seanie galloping up the field wasn't a problem with mobility at all, but defensive discipline. No one could accuse them of being slow players. Our lack of defensive cop on has rarely had much to do with mobility.
The two Shines were barely a wet day back from injury the day you mentioned. Both were far sharper on Sunday.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 24, 2016, 10:36:28 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 24, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Stick to Ulster muck. Ya obviously never saw oul' Seànie Mac and as usual don't know what you're talking about
I've seen Roscommon a lot on TV over the past 2 years and whenever anyone ups the tempo against them and plays at a high intensity - they simply cannot cope. That's why ye seem to do reasonably well in the league with the soft slow pitches but as soon as the ground hardens up it suits the teams with the runners and the speed and who can play the game at a high tempo, your championship failure backs that up.
As much as you may like to think you are, Roscommon are not a serious team.
right
coming from a Tyrone man, who have three senior all irelands. one more than Roscommon
sure ye never even did the two in a row!
you are probably right.
It doesn't help when the likes of Tyrone and Dublin have multiple modern sand based pitches to train and play on all winter and through the summer.
Roscommon don't even have a pitch at their main ground to use as its not fit to put sheep on and the centre of excellence is still a green field.
Having proper facilities to use has a huge bearing on a teams preparation
Well boo hoo.
No training facilities but you can afford a big f**k off bus and squandering 700k on your team a year.
The last time Roscommon won an All Ireland, Tyrone didn't even have an Ulster title to their name, never mind an All Ireland - that's the problem with living in the past. I've actually been there and seen that when the big trophies have come Tyrone's way, you've just read the history books and heard the old men in the pub recalling the "great old days".
ya have the chest out again there desperate dan or whatever you call yourself, f off back to the puke football thread and mind your own house.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 24, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Stick to Ulster muck. Ya obviously never saw oul' Seànie Mac and as usual don't know what you're talking about
I've seen Roscommon a lot on TV over the past 2 years and whenever anyone ups the tempo against them and plays at a high intensity - they simply cannot cope. That's why ye seem to do reasonably well in the league with the soft slow pitches but as soon as the ground hardens up it suits the teams with the runners and the speed and who can play the game at a high tempo, your championship failure backs that up.
As much as you may like to think you are, Roscommon are not a serious team.
Your repetitive bickering at little old Roscommon will mean you won't be taken as a serious poster on here.
Tymoan's 3 AIs are now exactly where Ros' 2 are - in the past.
Our Bus is in effect free and an awful lot of the money spent on county teams goes on hiring facilities and club pitches to train on, plus being a rural County most of our lads are based in Dublin/Galway etc and have bigger travelling expense claims than most.
What has Ros done to the Diesro buck anyway - he seems totally obsessed with bad mouthing us.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 11:20:16 PM
Tymoan's 3 AIs are now exactly where Ros' 2 are - in the past.
Our Bus is in effect free and an awful lot of the money spent on county teams goes on hiring facilities and club pitches to train on, plus being a rural County most of our lads are based in Dublin/Galway etc and have bigger travelling expense claims than most.
What has Ros done to the Diesro buck anyway - he seems totally obsessed with bad mouthing us.
What have Ros done to me?
Misplaced arrogance, sour grapes in defeat, delusion, social climbing, inability to come down off your high horses, double standards.
Take your pick, you bunch are out on your own here when it comes to those matters.
Get a life you silly child.
Ah lads can we all not just get along ;D
Sligo and Ross people are peas in a pod but the pod twill be well smashed next month.
Things starting to go belly up on us :(
The J1 trail has apparently begun......
It's over. Best start preparing for February.
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2016, 06:37:58 PM
It's over. Best start preparing for February.
being a Rossie must be an emotional roller coaster
It's awful carry on if true- fair enough if bucks said at the end of the NFL "I want to head to the US for the Summer so leave me off the Championship panel".
But 2 weeks out from the Connacht Semi final!!!! Sticking 2 fingers to management and team mates.
Doesn't say much for interest, commitment or ambition.
If true but reliable enough source... :(
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2016, 09:54:08 PM
It's awful carry on if true- fair enough if bucks said at the end of the NFL "I want to head to the US for the Summer so leave me off the Championship panel".
But 2 weeks out from the Connacht Semi final!!!! Sticking 2 fingers to management and team mates.
Doesn't say much for interest, commitment or ambition.
If true but reliable enough source... :(
No problem with the way Conor Daly did it. But these guys 2 weeks before a big championship game.Regardless of talent should not be allowed back on panel next year. You can't build cohesive team unity with lads heading off to the states on a whim.
Quote from: Rudi on May 28, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2016, 09:54:08 PM
It's awful carry on if true- fair enough if bucks said at the end of the NFL "I want to head to the US for the Summer so leave me off the Championship panel".
But 2 weeks out from the Connacht Semi final!!!! Sticking 2 fingers to management and team mates.
Doesn't say much for interest, commitment or ambition.
If true but reliable enough source... :(
No problem with the way Conor Daly did it. But these guys 2 weeks before a big championship game.Regardless of talent should not be allowed back on panel next year. You can't build cohesive team unity with lads heading off to the states on a whim.
An error of judgement after eight months of training away for the betterment of one's county isn't worth exiling players. That's one out of the Evans playbook that had the likes of Dev sitting on his Arse for two seasons. If the reaction locally is anything like it is in the snugs in the county the players will be well aware of where they went wrong anyways.
Correct Rudi.
McGuinness dumped Cassidy and Horan dumped Mortimer.I suspect these bucks may be left cooling theirheels for 2017.
It's very disappointing and is a real F off to manager, coaches, team mates, club Rossie, ordinary supporters who spent a load of money going to Killarney, Cork Donegal Dublin and paying club Rossie membership.
We thought we were all in it together......
.
Quote from: Rudi on May 28, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2016, 09:54:08 PM
It's awful carry on if true- fair enough if bucks said at the end of the NFL "I want to head to the US for the Summer so leave me off the Championship panel".
But 2 weeks out from the Connacht Semi final!!!! Sticking 2 fingers to management and team mates.
Doesn't say much for interest, commitment or ambition.
If true but reliable enough source... :(
No problem with the way Conor Daly did it. But these guys 2 weeks before a big championship game.Regardless of talent should not be allowed back on panel next year. You can't build cohesive team unity with lads heading off to the states on a whim.
In my experience players leaving on a J1 visa for the summer is normally planned weeks or months in advance. I think the unrest these players have left with news of their departure probably contributed to the scare in New York.
Now Roscommon will be left with some unwanted national media attention before the Sligo game when surely the whole situation could have been dealt with better.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: Rudi on May 28, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2016, 09:54:08 PM
It's awful carry on if true- fair enough if bucks said at the end of the NFL "I want to head to the US for the Summer so leave me off the Championship panel".
But 2 weeks out from the Connacht Semi final!!!! Sticking 2 fingers to management and team mates.
Doesn't say much for interest, commitment or ambition.
If true but reliable enough source... :(
No problem with the way Conor Daly did it. But these guys 2 weeks before a big championship game.Regardless of talent should not be allowed back on panel next year. You can't build cohesive team unity with lads heading off to the states on a whim.
In my experience players leaving on a J1 visa for the summer is normally planned weeks or months in advance. I think the unrest these players have left with news of their departure probably contributed to the scare in New York.
Now Roscommon will be left with some unwanted national media attention before the Sligo game when surely the whole situation could have been dealt with better.
What? If management knew they were leaving they wouldn't have been on the panel for the NY game so whatever way you cut it you're wrong on that one.
Media don't give a fùck either way.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2016, 10:23:52 PM
Correct Rudi.
McGuinness dumped Cassidy and Horan dumped Mortimer.I suspect these bucks may be left cooling theirheels for 2017.
It's very disappointing and is a real F off to manager, coaches, team mates, club Rossie, ordinary supporters who spent a load of money going to Killarney, Cork Donegal Dublin and paying club Rossie membership.
We thought we were all in it together......
.
Easy for the lad on a forum to say. How many months training have those lads put in this year alone?
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
What? If management knew they were leaving they wouldn't have been on the panel for the NY game so whatever way you cut it you're wrong on that one.
Media don't give a fùck either way.
You aren't that naive surely.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2016, 10:53:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
What? If management knew they were leaving they wouldn't have been on the panel for the NY game so whatever way you cut it you're wrong on that one.
Media don't give a fùck either way.
You aren't that naive surely.
It will barely generate a box-out or a two line mention in any national media, nor has any of the local papers ever showed an iota of interest in muckraking these topics. So you either don't know how it works or I really dunno.
Anyone care to tell me what's going on? Which players have decided to go to the States?
Cant believe the news, such a sucker punch, no way this can be repaired under this management.
Wont be expecting much from here on, feel sorry for the rest of the panel.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 28, 2016, 11:07:56 PM
Anyone care to tell me what's going on? Which players have decided to go to the States?
No.
"They" are talking about 2 bucks who played against Laythrum.
A "***** on Stolen sheep saying it's all O'Donnell's fault.
We can do without this.
I agree rossfan, I pulled on that particular blx after the Mayo nfl match and his comments on st sheep and other forums about named players, some things never change.
Quote from: giveballaghback on May 28, 2016, 11:35:39 PM
I agree rossfan, I pulled on that particular blx after the Mayo nfl match and his comments on st sheep and other forums about named players, some things never change.
But why are ye getting so upset about what some bolx on Stolensheep has to say? Is there any reason to believe him? You will get this type of sh1te on every county forum.
There is reason as he's close to a certain club which has a no of Co panellists.
He's been right about some tales but has an obsession with blaming Fergal for everything.
I suspect he was dropped off a minor panel once....... Or else was prosecuted for law breaking by Garda O'Donnell.
His mouth works faster than his brain, he is dangerous.
A bollix of a Rossie who talks sh*te?? It literally could be any one of ye ;D
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 29, 2016, 12:24:32 AM
A bollix of a Rossie who talks sh*te?? It literally could be any one of ye ;D
No ticket for London I take it :D
We might talk it but yer man stirs sh*te.
If true a huge loss for Ros.Always gave Mayo a lot of trouble .
Have just been told that one player may be going but the main player is definitely not going anywhere.
That's better Ballagh.
I'd have been so disappointed...
As for the other club.... At least there's one lion hearted man among them.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 01:13:49 AM
That's better Ballagh.
I'd have been so disappointed...
As for the other club.... At least there's one lion hearted man among them.
Cake?
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 01:15:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 01:13:49 AM
That's better Ballagh.
I'd have been so disappointed...
As for the other club.... At least there's one lion hearted man among them.
Cake?
Cake me....
You know the ladeen I'm talking about.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 01:15:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 01:13:49 AM
That's better Ballagh.
I'd have been so disappointed...
As for the other club.... At least there's one lion hearted man among them.
Cake?
Cake me....
You know the ladeen I'm talking about.
Niall has went though a hell of a lot to represent his county the last ten years lad.
He was 15 ten years ago.
Not many have the heart of the small buckeen. Even you have come round to admiring him.
No danger he'll walk away .
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 01:15:25 AM
Cake?
Gone to Laois as a goalkeeping coach I hear.
Bit late in the year to be coaching your goalie :o
Must be expecting a busy evening next Saturday.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 01:40:32 AM
He was 15 ten years ago.
Not many have the heart of the small buckeen. Even you have come round to admiring him.
No danger he'll walk away .
Davy is a real man.
Quote from: Rudi on May 29, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 01:40:32 AM
He was 15 ten years ago.
Not many have the heart of the small buckeen. Even you have come round to admiring him.
No danger he'll walk away .
Davy is a real man.
They all are.
If it is Diarmuid Murtagh that is going it will be a massive blow to Roscommon, he'd make any team in the country. The 7/2 available on Sligo would look a bit more generous too.
It's down to one buck from a soft southern club.
The Diarmuid story is said to be a "dùirt bean liom...." tale thankfully.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
It's down to one buck from a soft southern club.
The Diarmuid story is said to be a "dùirt bean liom...." tale thankfully.
Quit your nonsense attacks on young lads.
Tipp are most hit with Player departures this year, with a full pick they probably would have gained promotion to div 2 and how are they expected to make any impact in this years championship without so many top players?
This Declan Browne quote in the Irish examiner could also be used for any young Roscommon player that has just decided to jet off.
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I have no problem with players kicking ball in the States for the summer but why sign up to a county squad in the first place if this was on their agenda at the start of the year? Or why would management play them if they knew? This doesn't happen with the Dublins and Kerrys, probably because they are almost guaranteed to be playing in August. These guys have played throughout the league and would probably be on the championship team so now the management have to replace these players
I think wee Declan is overestimating the preparedness of the average 21 year old lad.
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
It's down to one buck from a soft southern club.
The Diarmuid story is said to be a "dùirt bean liom...." tale thankfully.
Quit your nonsense attacks on young lads.
A young lad who leaves a panel without prior notice half way through a Championship campaign.
Management pretty peeved with the action.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
It's down to one buck from a soft southern club.
The Diarmuid story is said to be a "dùirt bean liom...." tale thankfully.
Quit your nonsense attacks on young lads.
A young lad who leaves a panel without prior notice half way through a Championship campaign.
Management pretty peeved with the action.
And they're right to be. But what you're doing amounts to character assassination. He's never let us down once on the field of play. The idea he should be blacklisted for an error in timing is ridiculous in my opinion.
Are you sure you're not mixing me up with the lad on stolen sheep?
I said he took off in mid Championship. He did.
Now sod off ya lùlà. >:(
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Are you sure you're not mixing me up with the lad on stolen sheep?
I said he took off in mid Championship. He did.
Now sod off ya lùlà. >:(
It's a sentiment that is far too widespread for comfort.
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Are you sure you're not mixing me up with the lad on stolen sheep?
I said he took off in mid Championship. He did.
Now sod off ya lùlà. >:(
It's a sentiment that is far too widespread for comfort.
??
People telling you to sod off?
Lads leaving the panel?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 08:03:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 29, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Are you sure you're not mixing me up with the lad on stolen sheep?
I said he took off in mid Championship. He did.
Now sod off ya lùlà. >:(
It's a sentiment that is far too widespread for comfort.
??
People telling you to sod off?
Lads leaving the panel?
What you were responding to. You're easily confused lad.
Has syf gone away? I hope so ;D, mignt be safe to post an opinion if he has. So 2 of the Daly brothers have left the panel, yes they are good footballers but as the saying goes "the king is dead, long live the King". Its not the end of the world and we have several players ready to come back from injury and will be fresh and mad for road.
Sligo will travel with a certainty that they can repeat last years result and rightly so but I think Ros can win this one with a few points to spare. Really looking forward to the game.
I thought there was a major blow to the Rossies when these posts started appearing about players walking away.
Never good to have lads opt out, but with the Smith's and Compton on the way back that will be more of a boost that the Daly's leaving is a blow.
There were rumours of others leaving but seems it was one disaffected clown trying to foment things.
The Smiths, Compton, Corcoran, Higgins and Carty reported to be there or thereabouts now so we might have almost a full deck for the first time this year.
Match fitness will be an issue though.
Anyway it's Sligo first and if we play to our potential we should get to our first CF in 5 years.
Kev Higgins has a lot of rust to get off. Maybe if we're good enough to have this done heading into the last quarter he could come on but getting him, Comp and Cathal Shine back to 100% is going to have a lot to do with us having a decent summer. Our three best ball-winning midfielders. Saying that, Niall Daly is a class footballer and he's more likely to be moved back to wing-back in the result of the above returning. I think James McDermott showed he was a proper workhorse player (the kind a manager loves) against Leitrim and it would be harsh to drop him after doing little wrong the last day.
Back to the bollx, I hope he's not the capped fella from Strokestown.
Roscommon will win this one. I think they probably have their eyes firmly set on a Connacht title. Don't think they'll get it this year, but perhaps in the next couple of years.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 01, 2016, 07:21:57 PM
Back to the bollx, I hope he's not the capped fella from Strokestown.
Oh God not at all. ;D
Any news from the Sligo camp on this lads.
It's been very quiet on our front - any updates on possible starting team, challenge matches, lads leaving for America etc....
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 03, 2016, 01:42:07 PM
Any news from the Sligo camp on this lads.
It's been very quiet on our front - any updates on possible starting team, challenge matches, lads leaving for America etc....
Cracking week in Enniscrone, Sligo looking mighty!
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Quote from: sligoman2 on June 03, 2016, 01:42:07 PM
Any news from the Sligo camp on this lads.
It's been very quiet on our front - any updates on possible starting team, challenge matches, lads leaving for America etc....
Cracking week in Enniscrone, Sligo looking mighty!
Training camp in the 747 was it?
Is this the 2pm or 4pm game on the telly?
4 I believe.
So might gout for porther Saturday night 8)
Hi all, I was looking to buy tickets for the game online on the GAA website. It said firstly that the covered stand was unreserved but when i went to buy the tickets, it gave me a section and seat number. Anyone know if the covered stand is actually reserved or unreserved?
Also, I heard from a friend that if you go to the covered stand and have kids with you (pay 5 euro), that they have to sit in a different section of the stand cause they only paid 5 euro for their ticket. Is this true?
Quote from: Sligoman2015 on June 04, 2016, 11:12:55 AM
Hi all, I was looking to buy tickets for the game online on the GAA website. It said firstly that the covered stand was unreserved but when i went to buy the tickets, it gave me a section and seat number. Anyone know if the covered stand is actually reserved or unreserved?
Also, I heard from a friend that if you go to the covered stand and have kids with you (pay 5 euro), that they have to sit in a different section of the stand cause they only paid 5 euro for their ticket. Is this true?
There's probably a family section in the stand and you would need to be buying your tickets with the kid tickets to be together. Wouldn't know the ins and outs of it but what your friend said is a bit misleading regardless.
The covered stand isn't unreserved for championship matches usually but the uncovered stand in front and the terraces are.
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
No that's not right, we've a clubman on the panel who played with our club last week in the senior league.
Quote from: Sligoman2015 on June 04, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
No that's not right, we've a clubman on the panel who played with our club last week in the senior league.
I think the kids these days call that being 'rekt', Itchy.
Quote from: Sligoman2015 on June 04, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
No that's not right, we've a clubman on the panel who played with our club last week in the senior league.
I've a mate on panel who told me they were forbidden to play last weekend and were on a training camp instead! Somebody is wrong obviously.
Looking like we will have most of our injured players available to play some part next Sunday, a few still to return but we will have no excuse if we dont do the business next Sunday, I expect a comfortable win with a bit to spare, anything less and we are going nowhere, will be important to get some game time into our returning players.
Ros by 7 is my forecast.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 06, 2016, 12:40:08 PM
Looking like we will have most of our injured players available to play some part next Sunday, a few still to return but we will have no excuse if we dont do the business next Sunday, I expect a comfortable win with a bit to spare, anything less and we are going nowhere, will be important to get some game time into our returning players.
Ros by 7 is my forecast.
Little over a month ago Roscommon only beat New York by one point. You might be expecting too much for a 11 point swing in this fixture in just 1 year. If you are right it will probably say more about where Sligo are right now than Roscommon.
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Quote from: giveballaghback on June 06, 2016, 12:40:08 PM
Looking like we will have most of our injured players available to play some part next Sunday, a few still to return but we will have no excuse if we dont do the business next Sunday, I expect a comfortable win with a bit to spare, anything less and we are going nowhere, will be important to get some game time into our returning players.
Ros by 7 is my forecast.
Little over a month ago Roscommon only beat New York by one point. You might be expecting too much for a 11 point swing in this fixture in just 1 year. If you are right it will probably say more about where Sligo are right now than Roscommon.
All I'll say is Sligo are a limited side. They were flattered by our ineptitude last year.
Let's hope ye flatter us again on Sunday.
I think Roscommon are a limited side as well to be honest as are most sides.
Don't know what to expect from our lads an no one from Sligo seems to be posting much on the game so I'm in the dark. I do know that we will have to win some possession at midfield which has been our Achillies heel for many years, we have some tasty forwards if we can get the ball into them quickly and accurately.
I see Roscommon are 5 point favourites but I don't think I would gamble on this one as anything could happen....
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 06, 2016, 02:36:17 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 06, 2016, 12:40:08 PM
Looking like we will have most of our injured players available to play some part next Sunday, a few still to return but we will have no excuse if we dont do the business next Sunday, I expect a comfortable win with a bit to spare, anything less and we are going nowhere, will be important to get some game time into our returning players.
Ros by 7 is my forecast.
Little over a month ago Roscommon only beat New York by one point. You might be expecting too much for a 11 point swing in this fixture in just 1 year. If you are right it will probably say more about where Sligo are right now than Roscommon.
All I'll say is Sligo are a limited side. They were flattered by our ineptitude last year.
Sligos limited team is only matched by Roscommons incredible arrogance. Ros should win with a bit to spare but then I read some of you boys and I remember how easily your players start believing the hype and nonsense coming from their supporters. At least Sligo don't have to deal with thad
How many Ros players do you know?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
How many Ros players do you know?
Don't have know any, it oozes from them. This year against New York and last year against Sligo are two recent examples.
Another lùlà confusing his daft opinion with facts.
Hope this thundery weather doesn't last the week or we'll be for Pàirc Sheàin again :-\
Rossfan - here are the facts
a) Ye thought ye would hammer Sligo last year and ye got well beaten
b) Ye thought playing NY would be a joke and ye almost got beaten
c) Ye thought ye were better than ye actually were earlier this year because of superior fitness to other teams - but got a serious reality check in the later rounds of the league and the playoffs
So ye definitely do tend to think that ye are better than ye might actually be - It might not be a bad thing ............ but it definitely exists.
I'm not sure who the "ye" are.
Bandwagon hoppers maybe go on like that but most real people knew different in 2016.
I'll give you (a) alright but our management and players fecked up rightly that night.
Hope next Sunday will get that awful night out of our system and send ye bucks back across the Corr Shliabh sadder and wiser ;D
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 06, 2016, 09:21:22 PM
Rossfan - here are the facts
a) Ye thought ye would hammer Sligo last year and ye got well beaten
b) Ye thought playing NY would be a joke and ye almost got beaten
c) Ye thought ye were better than ye actually were earlier this year because of superior fitness to other teams - but got a serious reality check in the later rounds of the league and the playoffs
So ye definitely do tend to think that ye are better than ye might actually be - It might not be a bad thing ............ but it definitely exists.
Good luck with the fishing.
The fish are jumping but not biting yet.....
I might have to find a bigger worm...
1989 was the last time we beat Sligo in the Hyde, in championship football. In between a couple of draws and a defeat. These fixtures tend to be close affairs with the exception of that 1989 game where we hammered them. We are a mentally weak team and would fear for us if the game is any way close. Can't see us slipping up in consecutive years against Sligo, however I thought they played some mighty good ball against us last year and in truth should have beaten us by a lot more than they did.
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sligoman2015 on June 04, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
No that's not right, we've a clubman on the panel who played with our club last week in the senior league.
I've a mate on panel who told me they were forbidden to play last weekend and were on a training camp instead! Somebody is wrong obviously.
We have a lad on the panel who won't be near the team for Sunday. We've hardly seen him all year. I don't blame him, just part of the culture now at county level. Carew just doing the same as the rest of them
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Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sligoman2015 on June 04, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
No that's not right, we've a clubman on the panel who played with our club last week in the senior league.
I've a mate on panel who told me they were forbidden to play last weekend and were on a training camp instead! Somebody is wrong obviously.
We have a lad on the panel who won't be near the team for Sunday. We've hardly seen him all year. I don't blame him, just part of the culture now at county level. Carew just doing the same as the rest of them
Not all counties. Cavan players all played league with their clubs this weekend. I know Monaghan are the same. I think only backward setups are preventing lads playing.
Quote from: Itchy on June 06, 2016, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: ck on June 06, 2016, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sligoman2015 on June 04, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 04, 2016, 01:53:27 PM
I hear Carew wouldn't let any seniors play for their clubs for 5 weeks before the match, which is against a Croke park law. But seeing as he is a McGeeney Disciple I'm sure he will get away with it. As for the game, I expect an easy Roscommon victory.
No that's not right, we've a clubman on the panel who played with our club last week in the senior league.
I've a mate on panel who told me they were forbidden to play last weekend and were on a training camp instead! Somebody is wrong obviously.
We have a lad on the panel who won't be near the team for Sunday. We've hardly seen him all year. I don't blame him, just part of the culture now at county level. Carew just doing the same as the rest of them
Not all counties. Cavan players all played league with their clubs this weekend. I know Monaghan are the same. I think only backward setups are preventing lads playing.
Agree with that but Cavan and Monaghan are exceptions. Most county boards are facilitating county managers ruling the roost. I like Carew but he's dictating a lot at the minute. I don't know what the answer is but until clubs stand up for themselves (cos no-one in Croke park will do anything) then we will still be talking about clubs not being treated properly in 5 years time.
If we beat Ross on Sunday I'll change my opinion of course. ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
I'm not sure who the "ye" are.
Bandwagon hoppers maybe go on like that but most real people knew different in 2016.
I'll give you (a) alright but our management and players fecked up rightly that night.
Hope next Sunday will get that awful night out of our system and send ye bucks back across the Corr Shliabh sadder and wiser ;D
You said the following after the NY manager had the gall to suggest they could beat Roscommon:
Quote from: Rossfan on April 28, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
These lads don't be long turning into Yanks :o blowing bullshit.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
I'm not sure who the "ye" are.
Bandwagon hoppers maybe go on like that but most real people knew different in 2016.
I'll give you (a) alright but our management and players fecked up rightly that night.
Hope next Sunday will get that awful night out of our system and send ye bucks back across the Corr Shliabh sadder and wiser ;D
You said the following after the NY manager had the gall to suggest they could beat Roscommon:
Quote from: Rossfan on April 28, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
These lads don't be long turning into Yanks :o blowing bullshit.
Did you think any differently? New York shouldn't be beating anyone.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
I'm not sure who the "ye" are.
Bandwagon hoppers maybe go on like that but most real people knew different in 2016.
I'll give you (a) alright but our management and players fecked up rightly that night.
Hope next Sunday will get that awful night out of our system and send ye bucks back across the Corr Shliabh sadder and wiser ;D
You said the following after the NY manager had the gall to suggest they could beat Roscommon:
Quote from: Rossfan on April 28, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
These lads don't be long turning into Yanks :o blowing bullshit.
How much did NY win by????? ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on June 07, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
I'm not sure who the "ye" are.
Bandwagon hoppers maybe go on like that but most real people knew different in 2016.
I'll give you (a) alright but our management and players fecked up rightly that night.
Hope next Sunday will get that awful night out of our system and send ye bucks back across the Corr Shliabh sadder and wiser ;D
You said the following after the NY manager had the gall to suggest they could beat Roscommon:
Quote from: Rossfan on April 28, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
These lads don't be long turning into Yanks :o blowing bullshit.
How much did NY win by????? ;)
NY lost by exactly a quarter of what ye lost to us by last year.
Seriously though, I would expect Roscommon to win this game, but Sligo are always dangerous as underdogs. As I said earlier, I have no information on how training is going, challenge matches, internal struggles etc so I'm just hoping for the best...
Ah sure now lookit, when calling a game, you can adopt three different stances.
1) Seek the comfort of being underdog - "sure should we even bother showing up after the NY performance."
2) Sit on the fence - "Sligo/Ros games are always hard to call. Hard to know how it will go."
3) Call it as you see it - "Ros to win by 4."
#3 will always raise the antenna of the GAA man in the offended or neighboring county, unlocking the puritanical strain that lurks deep in the psyche of the GAA fraternity and they will love nothing better than to say "now what about that ye cocky bastards" and the supporter who stuck their neck out and got it wrong will be expected to self-flagellate themselves on the floor to the following day's Indo headline and the tanned one's twitter taunts.
Anyway despite the horror of the NY performance and the fact that Ros/Sligo games are hard to call, Ros to win by 4.
If the lads can't muster something after last year's double c**k up and NY they're never going to do it. Hoping Cathal Shine starts and word is he's going well in training and is finally looking fully fit. I wonder what the chances of Enda Smith, Carty, Comp featuring off the bench are now they're fit again? Carty is some battler not to have thrown the towel in.
Sligos manager Niall Carew is confident ahead of Sundays encounter.
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We can't wait for it. This is the game we're been looking forward to all year. Our preparations have always been about Roscommon. Bring it on at this stage.
We're in a better place than we were this time last year. We're a better team and we're better balanced. I'm very fortunate to have a very good panel of players. You'd go to war with theses lads and I'm looking forward to going to war again this Sunday.
We have a better championship record than Roscommon over the last few years we have the experience of reaching 3 Connacht finals in the last 6 years, this Roscommon team has yet to prove itself in the championship. We have proven ourselves. I'd be very disappointing if we don't win on Sunday.
Maybe we'd better give a walkover :)
You'd never hear McFOD giving it gusto like that. Usually don't wish Sligo any ill but this year I hope to God we can hockey them.
What would you expect Carew to say - That we expect to get hammered?
If the manager shows no confidence in the team, then the team are done for.
I hope we are able to hang with ye for at least the first 15 minutes... :D :D :D :D :D
Feeling pretty confident about this one, think the two teams are at a similar level despite what the Rossie think. It's hard to know whether we're a better team than last year. Ross Donovan and Kelly are huge losses but great to have McIntyre back and good to have Charlie fit again.
The achilles heel of midfield still remains, ideally we'd like to free McDonnell up here to partner McIntyre but then we have a big gap at full back.
Pat Hughes is the key for us, if we can get good ball in for him then I don't think Roscommon have a back physically capable of stopping him. I also think we have an edge in mobility around the middle of the pitch, if we can hold our own on kickouts then I think we will shade it.
Quote from: sligoman on June 07, 2016, 06:44:58 PM
Feeling pretty confident about this one, think the two teams are at a similar level despite what the Rossie think. It's hard to know whether we're a better team than last year. Ross Donovan and Kelly are huge losses but great to have McIntyre back and good to have Charlie fit again.
The achilles heel of midfield still remains, ideally we'd like to free McDonnell up here to partner McIntyre but then we have a big gap at full back.
Pat Hughes is the key for us, if we can get good ball in for him then I don't think Roscommon have a back physically capable of stopping him. I also think we have an edge in mobility around the middle of the pitch, if we can hold our own on kickouts then I think we will shade it.
Collins is well able for Mr. Hughes. Sligo have a bit of ludraman for a manager and that's part of the reason I've every hope we'll out-fight Sligo on the field and out-think them off it. Has no clue how to adjust when plan A fails imho.
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 07, 2016, 06:44:58 PM
Feeling pretty confident about this one, think the two teams are at a similar level despite what the Rossie think. It's hard to know whether we're a better team than last year. Ross Donovan and Kelly are huge losses but great to have McIntyre back and good to have Charlie fit again.
The achilles heel of midfield still remains, ideally we'd like to free McDonnell up here to partner McIntyre but then we have a big gap at full back.
Pat Hughes is the key for us, if we can get good ball in for him then I don't think Roscommon have a back physically capable of stopping him. I also think we have an edge in mobility around the middle of the pitch, if we can hold our own on kickouts then I think we will shade it.
Collins is well able for Mr. Hughes. Sligo have a bit of ludraman for a manager and that's part of the reason I've every hope we'll out-fight Sligo on the field and out-think them off it. Has no clue how to adjust when plan A fails imho.
Hughes is big but the few times I saw him he kicked everything wide.
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 07, 2016, 06:44:58 PM
Feeling pretty confident about this one, think the two teams are at a similar level despite what the Rossie think. It's hard to know whether we're a better team than last year. Ross Donovan and Kelly are huge losses but great to have McIntyre back and good to have Charlie fit again.
The achilles heel of midfield still remains, ideally we'd like to free McDonnell up here to partner McIntyre but then we have a big gap at full back.
Pat Hughes is the key for us, if we can get good ball in for him then I don't think Roscommon have a back physically capable of stopping him. I also think we have an edge in mobility around the middle of the pitch, if we can hold our own on kickouts then I think we will shade it.
Collins is well able for Mr. Hughes. Sligo have a bit of ludraman for a manager and that's part of the reason I've every hope we'll out-fight Sligo on the field and out-think them off it. Has no clue how to adjust when plan A fails imho.
We'll see, he certainly has the height on Collins.
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 05:12:32 PM
You'd never hear McFOD giving it gusto like that. Usually don't wish Sligo any ill but this year I hope to God we can hockey them.
Carew isn't talking about winning All-Ireland's is he? Unlike your previous manager who you defended to the hilt.
He's only talking about beating Roscommon, which they did last year. Hardly getting above his station.
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Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 05:12:32 PM
You'd never hear McFOD giving it gusto like that. Usually don't wish Sligo any ill but this year I hope to God we can hockey them.
Carew isn't talking about winning All-Ireland's is he? Unlike your previous manager who you defended to the hilt.
He's only talking about beating Roscommon, which they did last year. Hardly getting above his station.
We'll see how far above his station he is on Sunday.
Carew has his flaws but he is tactically very astute and is a good coach. Roscommon have the more talented individuals by a reasonable margin but it is a well organised and well oiled Sligo team that has been preparing for this match all year. It is tough to call.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 07, 2016, 10:38:44 PM
Carew has his flaws but he is tactically very astute and is a good coach. Roscommon have the more talented individuals by a reasonable margin but it is a well organised and well oiled Sligo team that has been preparing for this match all year. It is tough to call.
His main flaw being the best players in Sligo have no intentions of playing for him.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 07, 2016, 10:38:44 PM
Carew has his flaws but he is tactically very astute and is a good coach. Roscommon have the more talented individuals by a reasonable margin but it is a well organised and well oiled Sligo team that has been preparing for this match all year. It is tough to call.
Are you having a laugh. His tactic of leaving Aidan O Shea one on one in the penalty box in last years Connacht final against a young lad half his size had to be the worst set up I ever saw in a provincial final. I'd say he's another bluffer like mcgeeney.
Quote from: Itchy on June 07, 2016, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 07, 2016, 10:38:44 PM
Carew has his flaws but he is tactically very astute and is a good coach. Roscommon have the more talented individuals by a reasonable margin but it is a well organised and well oiled Sligo team that has been preparing for this match all year. It is tough to call.
Are you having a laugh. His tactic of leaving Aidan O Shea one on one in the penalty box in last years Connacht final against a young lad half his size had to be the worst set up I ever saw in a provincial final. I'd say he's another bluffer like mcgeeney.
I'm with itchy on this one!
Apart from beating an extremely tactically naive roscommon last year (not to mention overconfident and half injured) What has Carew achieved as manager of Sligo?
A hammering from Mayo, a 7 point defeat to Tyrone, and 2 mid-table division 3 league finishes!
He'll have to achieve more than that to convince me that he's "tactically very astute".
He may well prove me wrong on Sunday, but I can't really see anything other than a win for us. Having said that, I said the same last year!! :o :o :o
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:31:05 PM
Sligos manager Niall Carew is confident ahead of Sundays encounter.
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We can't wait for it. This is the game we're been looking forward to all year. Our preparations have always been about Roscommon. Bring it on at this stage.
We're in a better place than we were this time last year. We're a better team and we're better balanced. I'm very fortunate to have a very good panel of players. You'd go to war with theses lads and I'm looking forward to going to war again this Sunday.
We have a better championship record than Roscommon over the last few years we have the experience of reaching 3 Connacht finals in the last 6 years, this Roscommon team has yet to prove itself in the championship. We have proven ourselves. I'd be very disappointing if we don't win on Sunday.
lol fighting talk but imo talk is cheap,
there is no interest in Sligo for this match, read into that what you will but in my lifetime we only had close games with Roscommon and I expect Sunday to be close, I cant say I overly enthused about anything Sligo gaa at the minute tbh but I am coming home for this, Best of luck lads, Sligeach abu
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 07, 2016, 10:38:44 PM
Carew has his flaws but he is tactically very astute and is a good coach. Roscommon have the more talented individuals by a reasonable margin but it is a well organised and well oiled Sligo team that has been preparing for this match all year. It is tough to call.
Tactically astute - have a look at the setup of the team against Mayo. Then in the only change for the Tyrone game he drops the young full-back who he matched up against A O'Shea without any defensive blanket to offer some kind of protection.
Carew and Sligo got lucky last year in my opinion. Evans had Roscommon built up as All-Ireland contenders whereas in reality (due mainly to injuries) there had some very ordinary players lining out. Add to that Kilbride and D Murtagh carried injuries into the game. Roscommon also didn't push up on Sligo kickouts. As Mayo showed a few weeks later this was the key to winning the game. Sligo will be better at midfield this year due to McIntyre's return but the fullback line which was already vulnerable has been considerably weakened by Donovans retirement. Kelly is a loss but he hasn't been as good on recent years as he needs space for his small size and the modern day blanket defence doesn't suit his game.
Roscommon have a far better team (management and players) than last year, have home advantage, have already played 2 championship games, have players returning from injury and will not be as confident and arrogant as last year. Hopefully Sligo can put up a good performance and can get good ball into the forwards. Roscommon will probably win this with a few points to spare though unfortunately.
I wouldn't be so harsh on Carew, certainly he was found out against Mayo last year but he has done a decent rebuilding job on a team he inherited that was over the hill and has introduced a lot of new player who have equipped themselves fairly well.
Anyone care to have a crack at our lineup for Sunday. Don't think there are too many changes to what played the majority of the league. Presuming everyone is fit.....
1. Devaney
2. Harrison
3. McDonnell
4. Maye
5. Cawley
6. Egan
7. O'Kelly Lynch
8. McIntyre
9. Murphy
10. Ewing
11. Mark Breheny
12. Can Breheny
13. Kyle Cawley
14. Hughes
15. Marren
The big call is really whether Carew starts with Brian Egan or Kyle Cawley.
Claff
Seànie Collins McI
Daly Percy/ Keenan Davy M
JMcD C Shine
Fintan C Murtagh Devaney
D Murtagh D Shine C Cregg
1. Aidan Devaney Calry/St.Joseph's
2 Daniel Maye Tubbercurry
3 Kevin McDonnell Castleconnor
4 Eoin Flanagan St. John's
5 Keelan Cawley Coolera/Standhill
6 Adrian McIntyre Tourlestrane
7 Brendan Egan St. Vincent's
8 Niall Murphy Coolera/Standhill
9 Cian Breheny St. Marys
10 Neil Ewing Drumcliffe/Rosses Point
11 Mark Breheny St. Marys (Captain)
12 Charlie Harrison St. Johns
13 Adrian Marren Curry
14 Pat Hughes Geevagh
15 Brian Egan Tourlestrane
Would expect McIntyre in midfield and Charlie dropping back into defence. Not many surprises there, Egan the only debutant.
Carew going for the park the bus tactic I see. Good luck with that.
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Carew going for the park the bus tactic I see. Good luck with that.
You guys going to keep the big blue bus ticking over for a quick get-away again?
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1. Aidan Devaney Calry/St.Joseph's
2 Daniel Maye Tubbercurry
3 Kevin McDonnell Castleconnor
4 Eoin Flanagan St. John's
5 Keelan Cawley Coolera/Standhill
6 Adrian McIntyre Tourlestrane
7 Brendan Egan St. Vincent's
8 Niall Murphy Coolera/Standhill
9 Cian Breheny St. Marys
10 Neil Ewing Drumcliffe/Rosses Point
11 Mark Breheny St. Marys (Captain)
12 Charlie Harrison St. Johns
13 Adrian Marren Curry
14 Pat Hughes Geevagh
15 Brian Egan Tourlestrane
Would expect McIntyre in midfield and Charlie dropping back into defence. Not many surprises there, Egan the only debutant.
Not really. Harrison and Ewing are natural defenders named in attack but at the same time Murphy and Breheny are forwards named in midfield. Team won't line up with the shape in accordance with the numbers. Plenty of mobility in that middle 8 though, we're not really able to spring any surprises as we're picking from a shallow pool. Won't be too many options on the bench to change things for us so it's imperative we start strongly.
Announced team
Claff
Seànie Collins McI
McManus Purcell Daveen M
Daly J McDermott
Fintan C Murtagh Conor D
Senan K D Shine Cregger.
Said by those allegedly in the know not to be the team that will start.
2 Smiths, Compton, Corcoran, C Shine among the subs.
Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 09, 2016, 09:46:48 PM
Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
Only 6 of last years starting team start on Sunday for Roscommon, Seanie Mac is the only player to line out in the same position as last year, some turnover, is it good or not so good?
Just asking opinions so dont shoot me Syf ;D
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
Going by the championship so far, Roscommon will win handy.
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Going by the championship so far, Roscommon will win handy.
Maybe but not so sure. That Sligo selection suggests that they will be a lot cuter than last year where they were very exposed at the back. Roscommon could not take advantage but they were a train wreck waiting to happen. Harrison is not going to play in the forwards, that's for sure. I expect them to set up defensively and isolate Marren and Hughes inside maybe. But I know nothing about this new Egan lad and what his role could be?
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Going by the championship so far, Roscommon will win handy.
Roscommon didn't win handy against New York in this years championship and as Niall Carew said Sligo are a much better team than New York.
With injuries and lads going to America Roscommon are apparently without up to 10 players on Sunday. I think this game points to another close competitive Roscommon v Sligo contest with no more than a few points separating the sides at the end.
Quote from: moysider on June 09, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
In fairness not that extraordinary at all as it happens in almost every county where key players are forced to play usually on a high dosage of painkillers. Management is about taking risks however its silly risks like that costs them their jobs.
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Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
In fairness not that extraordinary at all as it happens in almost every county where key players are forced to play usually on a high dosage of painkillers. Management is about taking risks however its silly risks like that costs them their jobs.
I know, but why did Evan's play unfit players if - as Sy. suggests he had others good enough to do the job?
I believe he didn't think the reserve were good enough and went with the injured players believing they were still the best option for a championship game. It's all very well saying in hindsight we would have won without playing injured players and that is why we lost. All teams play players that have some niggle or other all the time. Even teams at the top end go with injured players - recently Cian O Sullivan was played hamstrung and Cillian O Connor's shoulder was held together by sticky tape one year and played with a gammy knee last year when he could hardly train.
All athletes and footballers are seldom 100%. There is nearly always an issue of some sort. Using injured players as an excuse for last years loss is disrespectful to Sligo. No doubt they had their own issues as well with injuries.
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Going by the championship so far, Roscommon will win handy.
Going by the championship last year, Roscommon were supposed to win handy too.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2016, 11:53:50 PM
Going by the championship so far, Roscommon will win handy.
Going by the championship last year, Roscommon were supposed to win handy too.
Exactly. I went down and wasn't a bit surprised by what happened. Roscommon should win this, you would expect, but they will have to be really firing to do it handy. Sligo will turn up for this.
We are missing Kyle Cawley because he is sitting the leaving cert. Only a young lad, but had a great league campaign and played well for Summerhill also.
A natural goal scorer and someone we may miss on Sunday. Hopefully Brian Egan produces the goods on Sunday, when he's hot he's good but when he's cold the play seems to pass him by.
Hoping for another upset...
Quote from: moysider on June 09, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
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Quote from: moysider on June 09, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
In 2010 Connacht final Sligo started with 2 injured players-Tony Taylor and Mark Breheny. Both didn't finish the game, Taylor lasted 25 minutes.We weren't moaning it cost us the game. Get over it ye were beaten by a better team last year.
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Quote from: moysider on June 09, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
Just to clear something up, On last year Kilbride and Murtagh both passed fitness test provided by medical team last year before been selected to play, It went against team but it happens in every team sport in the world where players will have late fitness tests.
On the lad that started corner forward for most the league this year, He had only started one game for Roscommon previous to Sligo game so when your medical team tell you Murtagh and Kilbride are fit you are going to start them ahead of a lad with no senior experience.
On the two players you said we at the match in the stands. One was asked in loads of times and declined for what ever reason I know two lads who declined this year. He obviously couldn't commit. And the other guy was let go from panel for disciplinary reasons.
Anyway best of luck to Management and players sunday. I am expecting two changes to team named.
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Quote from: moysider on June 09, 2016, 11:49:50 PM
Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
Just to clear something up, On last year Kilbride and Murtagh both passed fitness test provided by medical team last year before been selected to play, It went against team but it happens in every team sport in the world where players will have late fitness tests.
On the lad that started corner forward for most the league this year, He had only started one game for Roscommon previous to Sligo game so when your medical team tell you Murtagh and Kilbride are fit you are going to start them ahead of a lad with no senior experience.
On the two players you said we at the match in the stands. One was asked in loads of times and declined for what ever reason I know two lads who declined this year. He obviously couldn't commit. And the other guy was let go from panel for disciplinary reasons.
Anyway best of luck to Management and players sunday. I am expecting two changes to team named.
John Evans has managed enough games to know when a player looks frigged in the warm-up. I'm sure both were dosed to the gills with painkillers, just as Senan was in 2011 to play the Connacht final.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.
Yawn. If you want someone to play the gombeen and tell you how tough and brave Sligo are there's plenty out there to oblige. The fact is Sligo barely survived D3 last year and got ran out the gates in both games after the Ros one.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.
Yawn. If you want someone to play the gombeen and tell you how tough and brave Sligo are there's plenty out there to oblige. The fact is Sligo barely survived D3 last year and got ran out the gates in both games after the Ros one.
Yes. Sligo barely survived D3 but put you lot on your arses in Connacht.
Roscommon are all hot air. Sligo football is not in a great place at the minute but we're still not too far away from Roscommon when it comes to business time which tells you a lot about the levels of delusion with you bucks.
As a matter of interest how long do Roscommon have to back for a Championship win over Galway or Mayo or any decent Championship team for that matter?
Prove yourselves first before running your gob.
Is Harney injured?
D Murtagh appears to be very injury prone as do a few others.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.
Yawn. If you want someone to play the gombeen and tell you how tough and brave Sligo are there's plenty out there to oblige. The fact is Sligo barely survived D3 last year and got ran out the gates in both games after the Ros one.
Yes. Sligo barely survived D3 but put you lot on your arses in Connacht.
Roscommon are all hot air. Sligo football is not in a great place at the minute but we're still not too far away from Roscommon when it comes to business time which tells you a lot about the levels of delusion with you bucks.
As a matter of interest how long do Roscommon have to back for a Championship win over Galway or Mayo or any decent Championship team for that matter?
Prove yourselves first before running your gob.
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Last year Evans started his" Connacht Final team" against Sligo.
We saw how that worked out ::)
While Kilbride and Murtagh might have been medically fit to play - they hadn't trained since the London game and shouldn't have been started.
Not to mention other events that day some of which are urban myths.
Anyway it's now June 2016 and it's time to bury all that sh1te and hopefully drive the black and white back across the Curlieus as the McDermott clan did down through history. With 2 of them in our team let's keep our heritage alive.
A noble race from a land where kings once trod.
Ros by 5.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.
Yawn. If you want someone to play the gombeen and tell you how tough and brave Sligo are there's plenty out there to oblige. The fact is Sligo barely survived D3 last year and got ran out the gates in both games after the Ros one.
Yes. Sligo barely survived D3 but put you lot on your arses in Connacht.
Roscommon are all hot air. Sligo football is not in a great place at the minute but we're still not too far away from Roscommon when it comes to business time which tells you a lot about the levels of delusion with you bucks.
As a matter of interest how long do Roscommon have to back for a Championship win over Galway or Mayo or any decent Championship team for that matter?
Prove yourselves first before running your gob.
+1
+6
..on Sunday.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 10, 2016, 09:53:59 AM
Is Harney injured?
D Murtagh appears to be very injury prone as do a few others.
Both are very injury prone. Murtagh has now pulled his hamstring 3 times in 12 Months. Harney has pulled his 3 times since December but is due to start full training in the next week.
2 lads who've been year round footballers for 5 or more teams for 4 or 5 successive years.........
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Is Harney injured?
D Murtagh appears to be very injury prone as do a few others.
Both are very injury prone. Murtagh has now pulled his hamstring 3 times in 12 Months. Harney has pulled his 3 times since December but is due to start full training in the next week.
Didn't realise it was the same injury they kept suffering from, unfortunately its hard to imagine these 2 keeping fit for the summer. Its a shame as both are two of the best young players I've seen in recent years.
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Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
Now, now Syf, a touch of realism is needed here. If ye were missing opportunity after opportunity it was yeer own fault and saying ye'd have won if only the bloody forwards knew where the goalposts were is straight out of the "If only me auntie...." school of logic.
II bet you didn't find a single Mayo fan, on here or anywhere else, who was boasting and bragging about what we'd do to Sligo in the final. They deserve to be treated with respect as they will fight to the end.
I recall one Rossie supporter on here, (and I won't mention any name but you can look in the mirror) dismissing Sligo and Fermanagh earlier in the year. Maybe they are "hardly football titans" but they were still good enough to bate yiz last year unless ye smarten up Sligo could well sicken ye again.
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Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
Now, now Syf, a touch of realism is needed here. If ye were missing opportunity after opportunity it was yeer own fault and saying ye'd have won if only the bloody forwards knew where the goalposts were is straight out of the "If only me auntie...." school of logic.
II bet you didn't find a single Mayo fan, on here or anywhere else, who was boasting and bragging about what we'd do to Sligo in the final. They deserve to be treated with respect as they will fight to the end.
I recall one Rossie supporter on here, (and I won't mention any name but you can look in the mirror) dismissing Sligo and Fermanagh earlier in the year. Maybe they are "hardly football titans" but they were still good enough to bate yiz last year unless ye smarten up Sligo could well sicken ye again.
And it would be hard not to have smile and think "good enough for him".
You have some serious memory problems if you think I was dismissing Sligo last year. If anything I was far more worried about that game than this one.
I expect a response to the failures of last year on Sunday and if there isn't there's no point in us even bothering with the Quailifers.
Fermanagh are a better team with a far better manager than Sligo. The trajectory of both teams prove that.
Your post reeks of the usual brand of self-serving cute hoorism that has infected this forum Lar. You're not running for election so you'd be better served cutting the political correct shite.
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Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
Now, now Syf, a touch of realism is needed here. If ye were missing opportunity after opportunity it was yeer own fault and saying ye'd have won if only the bloody forwards knew where the goalposts were is straight out of the "If only me auntie...." school of logic.
II bet you didn't find a single Mayo fan, on here or anywhere else, who was boasting and bragging about what we'd do to Sligo in the final. They deserve to be treated with respect as they will fight to the end.
I recall one Rossie supporter on here, (and I won't mention any name but you can look in the mirror) dismissing Sligo and Fermanagh earlier in the year. Maybe they are "hardly football titans" but they were still good enough to bate yiz last year unless ye smarten up Sligo could well sicken ye again.
Roscommon will walk this.
What's the weather promised like for this. I prefer it be dry from our point of view.
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What's the weather promised like for this. I prefer it be dry from our point of view.
Could be a few showers forecast but we will also be hoping for a dry day.
Murtagh needs to stop playing across multiple grades - county U21 & senior, club, third level
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2016, 02:11:53 PM
Murtagh needs to stop playing across multiple grades - county U21 & senior, club, third level
He's overage.
I think Sligo are actually an improved outfit on last year and it will take a monster effort to beat them.
The two things i think will get us over the line is the tactical battle between both management teams and which side will have the more hunger for the battle.
In both instances last year we were beat hands down but i believe we will turn the tables this year.
Last year Carew had very simple but effective tactics which exposed our weakness's in defence. He is no tactical genius but at times its the simple tweaks that can be made to a game plan which can see you over the line.Sometimes managements can be too over analytical (just ask the Clare hurlers!!).
I think this year our management set up will be less naive and will have certain areas protected and counter plans in place to nullify any threat from short kick outs and high balls into our full back line.
I also think that there is definitely a different approach and attitude going into this game than last year from all involved which will keep heads firmly on one thing only and that's a result in this game.
I would be genuinely worried about our half back line if its the one named to start specifically the number 6.I just think he isn't up to this level and will struggle against much better sides and may well even struggle on Sunday.
While i thought John mc was our best performer in the first half against leitrim this is another step up again and I'm afraid will the pressure be too much hopefully time will prove me wrong.
Midfield is still unproven (if its the one named starts) but i don't think Sligo are world beaters in that area either so maybe that will be an area we can break even.
Our half forward line is our best line on the pitch and with plenty of ball and mobility will cause most teams problems.
In the full forward line we need a better showing from Cathal than the last day and hopefully Donie can put in more sustained performance and build on the promise against Leitrim.
If Kilbride starts he really needs to perform I'm afraid too many false dawns with the lad because if we manage to win on Sunday and his performance is poor id be struggling to see why he should be considered for a starting berth in a Connacht final
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Really? I find it extraordinary that any manager at any level would start injured players if he had the resources besides that he believed could get the job done. It's all very well in hindsight saying any fit squad players would have been good enough.
Anyway got my tickets today for this and looking forward to it. There's been some very enjoyable Sligo/Ros. games down the years. Hoping for another good one.
He had our starting corner forward throughout the league this year sitting on his arse for most of the game last year. Our two best forwards this year were in the stands that day, nevermind on the bench. The idea the players went in cocky is total media and outsider proselytizing too. Playing a match with no fit inside forward starting usually is a good way to lose a match. Missing good opportunity after good opportunity drained the confidence of the team and allowed an honestly very workmanlike Sligo side to grow into the game.
Now, now Syf, a touch of realism is needed here. If ye were missing opportunity after opportunity it was yeer own fault and saying ye'd have won if only the bloody forwards knew where the goalposts were is straight out of the "If only me auntie...." school of logic.
II bet you didn't find a single Mayo fan, on here or anywhere else, who was boasting and bragging about what we'd do to Sligo in the final. They deserve to be treated with respect as they will fight to the end.
I recall one Rossie supporter on here, (and I won't mention any name but you can look in the mirror) dismissing Sligo and Fermanagh earlier in the year. Maybe they are "hardly football titans" but they were still good enough to bate yiz last year unless ye smarten up Sligo could well sicken ye again.
Roscommon will walk this.
I expect them to win by a few points alright but then most people expected that last year and look what happened.
So bus assuming the named team- goalie, FB line adequate, HF line excellent.
2 dodgy HBs, question marks over midfield, and 3 FFs with reputations but not the performances to go with them.
Not an unfair review IMO.
The actual starting 15 and the subs will be very interesting and will in all probability give us a stronger team for our next game - Hopefully a CF on 10th July.
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Diarmuid Murtagh not on squad for Sunday, injured in training on tuesday night.
Big blow that. Last year Roscommon had to endure late injury setbacks before the Sligo game, looks like history is repeating itself one year on.
The injuries weren't the issue. It was playing the injured players that was the bother.
If I recall right Donie Shine was to play last year only for a late injury.
He was concussed. If we named 15 fit players to start last year we would have won even playing as we did.
The arrogance of ye bucks knows no bounds.
Only one buck! No complaints here ye were the better team on the day last year. Hopefully twill be a good entertaining game on Sunday and win or lose best a luck to Sligo in their following game. Ros abu!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
So bus assuming the named team- goalie, FB line adequate, HF line excellent.
2 dodgy HBs, question marks over midfield, and 3 FFs with reputations but not the performances to go with them.
Not an unfair review IMO.
The actual starting 15 and the subs will be very interesting and will in all probability give us a stronger team for our next game - Hopefully a CF on 10th July.
Cregg has always been very consistent. Donie has regularly validated his reputation when his body has been willing to co-operate. If anything he's a gamer who has performed best in the most critical matches.
Bit daft to single out Purcy, the reason he's there is because we've had a black hole at the heart of our HB line for years now and it's better to have a seasoned performer in that position than other options we have.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
So bus assuming the named team- goalie, FB line adequate, HF line excellent.
2 dodgy HBs, question marks over midfield, and 3 FFs with reputations but not the performances to go with them.
Not an unfair review IMO.
The actual starting 15 and the subs will be very interesting and will in all probability give us a stronger team for our next game - Hopefully a CF on 10th July.
I think that's our hidden strength Rossfan and that is this year we have a good in depth panel.
One could nearly be bold and say that the team starting on Sunday if that is the case is almost a B team.
We have players in my honest opinion through injury and otherwise are not starting who would improve that side.D murtgah,U Harney,E Smith,C Shine (when fit & on Song) T Corcoaran (could be anything but IMHO is a very good prospect),D keenan (not everyones cup of tea but is a player who rarely lets us down),k Higgins,Connolly,S Mullooly (again an excellent prospect IMHO).
However Sunday is the litmus test for me at the moment.
We need a result but i also think we need a good performance too go along with it so this group can grow another notch or two in the mentality department.
I would worry that we are too fragile and we need to start being more streetwise in terms of the physical stakes as well our group mentality which is fragile and yet too develop in terms of an inner belief.
All the good teams have it.its the F**k you attitude which the likes of Tyrone,Donegal (under mcguiness) mayo and dublin possess and exhume even before a ball is thrown in.
we need to start developing that its not arrogance its about being mentally tough enough as a group together.
Not much excitement around about this game and haven't seen our county lads in ages so maybe it's out of sight, out of mind. I'm not expecting a win. Don't think we're much better than last year (McIntyre is a big addition granted but still carrying a few passengers). I think Roscommon will prove to be better than last year and win by 4/5.
I'm not a fan of Carew at all. I think he's a bluffer,writing shite in the Champion to tell us how great we are. Playing McDonnell at full back is a terrible waste. I hope there is some workable strategy for our kickouts as everyone will target them now.
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
So bus assuming the named team- goalie, FB line adequate, HF line excellent.
2 dodgy HBs, question marks over midfield, and 3 FFs with reputations but not the performances to go with them.
Not an unfair review IMO.
The actual starting 15 and the subs will be very interesting and will in all probability give us a stronger team for our next game - Hopefully a CF on 10th July.
Cregg has always been very consistent. Donie has regularly validated his reputation when his body has been willing to co-operate. If anything he's a gamer who has performed best in the most critical matches.
Bit daft to single out Purcy, the reason he's there is because we've had a black hole at the heart of our HB line for years now and it's better to have a seasoned performer in that position than other options we have.
Creggs consistency has been very good (our best player last year i thought) however he did perform poorly against Leitrim and I'm just hoping that was a blip remember he wouldn't be the first good player to go through a loss of form. Granted full forward line isn't his best position anyway.
Donie has had one good game for Roscommon since Castlebar 2010.That was against Mayo in 2014.So to say he has regularly put in good performances is absolute bull. Yes he hasn't had much luck with injuries but the lad has under performed more times relative to his ability. Loss of form can be attributed to prolonged injuries but its not always to blame.
So your answer to the problem at 6 is to stick a lad in there because he has experience.We saw how that went in the league semi.
A great servant but not at the level of a top 8 side which we should be aspiring too.
Its one of the most important positions on the pitch and unfortunately is our weakest at the moment until someone or some system is found to counter act that weakness.
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So bus assuming the named team- goalie, FB line adequate, HF line excellent.
2 dodgy HBs, question marks over midfield, and 3 FFs with reputations but not the performances to go with them.
Not an unfair review IMO.
The actual starting 15 and the subs will be very interesting and will in all probability give us a stronger team for our next game - Hopefully a CF on 10th July.
Cregg has always been very consistent. Donie has regularly validated his reputation when his body has been willing to co-operate. If anything he's a gamer who has performed best in the most critical matches.
Bit daft to single out Purcy, the reason he's there is because we've had a black hole at the heart of our HB line for years now and it's better to have a seasoned performer in that position than other options we have.
Creggs consistency has been very good (our best player last year i thought) however he did perform poorly against Leitrim and I'm just hoping that was a blip remember he wouldn't be the first good player to go through a loss of form. Granted full forward line isn't his best position anyway.
Donie has had one good game for Roscommon since Castlebar 2010.That was against Mayo in 2014.So to say he has regularly put in good performances is absolute bull. Yes he hasn't had much luck with injuries but the lad has under performed more times relative to his ability. Loss of form can be attributed to prolonged injuries but its not always to blame.
So your answer to the problem at 6 is to stick a lad in there because he has experience.We saw how that went in the league semi.
A great servant but not at the level of a top 8 side which we should be aspiring too.
Its one of the most important positions on the pitch and unfortunately is our weakest at the moment until someone or some system is found to counter act that weakness.
Donie was excelent in both the first half v Cavan and most of the Fermanagh game. He was subbed out only because the injuries meant he wasn't near full fitness. He was our best forward v Leitrim the last day too. Fitan got MotM based on the second half but it was Donie that got the killer blows in the first half. A big boy who is as good a footballer as Shine is a pretty rare commodity. If he can get a run of fitness he's as important to us in 2016 as he was in 2010 or 2011. Performed for Clann when it mattered in the club championship too.
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So bus assuming the named team- goalie, FB line adequate, HF line excellent.
2 dodgy HBs, question marks over midfield, and 3 FFs with reputations but not the performances to go with them.
Not an unfair review IMO.
The actual starting 15 and the subs will be very interesting and will in all probability give us a stronger team for our next game - Hopefully a CF on 10th July.
Cregg has always been very consistent. Donie has regularly validated his reputation when his body has been willing to co-operate. If anything he's a gamer who has performed best in the most critical matches.
Bit daft to single out Purcy, the reason he's there is because we've had a black hole at the heart of our HB line for years now and it's better to have a seasoned performer in that position than other options we have.
Creggs consistency has been very good (our best player last year i thought) however he did perform poorly against Leitrim and I'm just hoping that was a blip remember he wouldn't be the first good player to go through a loss of form. Granted full forward line isn't his best position anyway.
Donie has had one good game for Roscommon since Castlebar 2010.That was against Mayo in 2014.So to say he has regularly put in good performances is absolute bull. Yes he hasn't had much luck with injuries but the lad has under performed more times relative to his ability. Loss of form can be attributed to prolonged injuries but its not always to blame.
So your answer to the problem at 6 is to stick a lad in there because he has experience.We saw how that went in the league semi.
A great servant but not at the level of a top 8 side which we should be aspiring too.
Its one of the most important positions on the pitch and unfortunately is our weakest at the moment until someone or some system is found to counter act that weakness.
Donie was excelent in both the first half v Cavan and most of the Fermanagh game. He was subbed out only because the injuries meant he wasn't near full fitness. He was our best forward v Leitrim the last day too. Fitan got MotM based on the second half but it was Donie that got the killer blows in the first half. A big boy who is as good a footballer as Shine is a pretty rare commodity. If he can get a run of fitness he's as important to us in 2016 as he was in 2010 or 2011. Performed for Clann when it mattered in the club championship too.
I was at both games and unfortunately Shines performance both days were not excellent.Id hate to see your barometer in terms of exceptional.
Yes a very good first half against Leitrim but was non existent in the second half.
How could his points in the first half be classed as killer blows?? There was no killer blows after ten mins they just gave up. Granted they were a poor side but by the time he scored his last point in the first half there was still a good 40 mins of football left. MOTM awards are rarely given out on good 1st half performances.
He was very good in the club championship last year (which i believe has given him a new hunger ) but off the back of two poor years prior.
I dont want to be hard on the lad with the effort he his obviously putting in but the last few years his overall performances have only been average relative to his overall raw ability.
Now whether that's down to injuries,falling out of love for the game which can happen anyone or down to mediocre management at both club and county its anyone's guess.
I seen a glimpse of what we all know he can do against leitrim in the first half and if that type of performance can be sustained for the majority of a championship game then i think we have the old donie back.
The named FF line is Syfín's wet dream.
They don't have to actually do anything to be exceptional for him.
They all need to be stepping up their performances from here on.
Management have to start making hard calls ( and some would say look beyond Lisnamult).
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The named FF line is Syfín's wet dream.
They don't have to actually do anything to be exceptional for him.
They all need to be stepping up their performances from here on.
Management have to start making hard calls ( and some would say look beyond Lisnamult).
In which direction? I hope you mean south
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2016, 06:15:41 PM
The named FF line is Syfín's wet dream.
They don't have to actually do anything to be exceptional for him.
They all need to be stepping up their performances from here on.
Management have to start making hard calls ( and some would say look beyond Lisnamult).
Don't see any favouritism. James Mac merited his place the last day. John Mac did too and is getting chances because of the position he plays and his physicality, not because of his club.
Would like to see Ross Timothy committing to the county panel next year. A smart player that could play a few positions in the HB/Sweeper area.
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2016, 06:15:41 PM
The named FF line is Syfín's wet dream.
They don't have to actually do anything to be exceptional for him.
They all need to be stepping up their performances from here on.
Management have to start making hard calls ( and some would say look beyond Lisnamult).
Don't see any favouritism. James Mac merited his place the last day. John Mac did too and is getting chances because of the position he plays and his physicality, not because of his club.
Would like to see Ross Timothy committing to the county panel next year. A smart player that could play a few positions in the HB/Sweeper area.
You are paddling some amount of garbage even for you, you are going into overdrive at this stage talking about the galacticos, it's probably because you won't have much opportunity to talk about them anymore before they tamely exist the championship but worry not Mayo might still be left and you can be infatuated with them like you always are and especially Andy.
Things gone quiet.
Nerves or feckin soccer?
Time to advance and prove we can do something after May day.
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2016, 06:15:41 PM
The named FF line is Syfín's wet dream.
They don't have to actually do anything to be exceptional for him.
They all need to be stepping up their performances from here on.
Management have to start making hard calls ( and some would say look beyond Lisnamult).
Don't see any favouritism. James Mac merited his place the last day. John Mac did too and is getting chances because of the position he plays and his physicality, not because of his club.
What clubs he Syf?
Would like to see Ross Timothy committing to the county panel next year. A smart player that could play a few positions in the HB/Sweeper area.
Best of luck to Ros team and management today, looking forward to the game and hoping for a Rossie victory, I think we will win with a bit to spare.
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Best of luck to Ros team and management today, looking forward to the game and hoping for a Rossie victory, I think we will win .
+1.
Fair amount of rain over past 48 hours, will the Hyde be fit for its swan song?
Quote from: Tubberman on June 12, 2016, 11:35:32 AM
Fair amount of rain over past 48 hours, will the Hyde be fit for its swan song?
Hardly any rain has fell in the town area the last few days.
Wonder would Pat Hughes like a house on Straffan :D A really good full-forward.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 04:18:35 PM
Wonder would Pat Hughes like a house on Straffan :D A really good full-forward.
Mul is dominating him.
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Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 04:18:35 PM
Wonder would Pat Hughes like a house on Straffan :D A really good full-forward.
Mul is dominating him.
LOL
Get canning "a stricken Mayoman" and it wasn't even a Rossie he was referring to 😁
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Wonder would Pat Hughes like a house on Straffan :D A really good full-forward.
Mul is dominating him.
Deluded
What a pissy free/point from mcquillan
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What a pissy free/point from mcquillan
Yes, especially since he didn't throw the ball in straight!
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Get canning "a stricken Mayoman" and it wasn't even a Rossie he was referring to 😁
"Mayo" again from Canning 😳
Pat Hughes not getting an inch ;D ;D
Marren off on a black, big loss for sligo.
Roscommon are useless infront of goal and giving Sligo way too much room at the back.
Unless Marren did something else that wasn't caught on camera, that was a disgraceful decision to black card him.
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Wonder would Pat Hughes like a house on Straffan :D A really good full-forward.
Mul is dominating him.
misquote?
Pat Hughes is Straffan bound lol, Did someone say he been well marked
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Pat Hughes not getting an inch ;D ;D
Marren off on a black, big loss for sligo.
;D
Cregg outstanding too.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 12, 2016, 04:35:58 PM
Unless Marren did something else that wasn't caught on camera, that was a disgraceful decision to black card him.
Pretty sure that happened a couple minutes before the black card.
Anyway, who's the division 1 team and who's division 3
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 12, 2016, 04:35:58 PM
Unless Marren did something else that wasn't caught on camera, that was a disgraceful decision to black card him.
The replay showed something which happened about 2 mins before the black card so I doubt that was if.
look on the bright side we dont have to go to castlebar ;D
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 12, 2016, 04:35:58 PM
Unless Marren did something else that wasn't caught on camera, that was a disgraceful decision to black card him.
The replay showed something which happened about 2 mins before the black card so I doubt that was if.
The black was for a body check, according to the player himself on the wireless.
It's only halftime.
Seems to be a pretty strong breeze which Ros will have in 2ind half.Ros not out of it yet.
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 04:19:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 04:18:35 PM
Wonder would Pat Hughes like a house on Straffan :D A really good full-forward.
Mul is dominating him.
Let's get more of this top class analysis, how is cregg and senan going today?
Would love to be next to syphillis right about now
Mind you without Marren Sligo will struggle big time. Also Breheny sub that came on looked to have aggravated injured his knee
In fairness Mulloly won the first 3 balls but has been cleaned since
You have to admire Roscommon not going out with a sweeper the breeze.
Admire the stupidity
Gaa go has completely missed the half time analysis
Quote from: joemamas on June 12, 2016, 04:53:18 PM
Gaa go has completely missed the half time analysis
There was none, an Nuacht was on instead.
Roscommon are very poor but i think they still win, they opened us up too easy and that worries me when they get a run on us this wind is huge, if that was mayo we were playing we would be out the gate like last yr
Keeper what are you at seriously??
Senan connell getting plenty of mentions from ger canning. Commentating as good as the Sligo keeper under a high ball
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Keeper what are you at seriously??
His kicks outs are crap too
Roscommon should win handy now. Wind is a factor and Marren too big a loss. No great depth on bench either. Still it would have been gas!!
Sligo taking all the wrong options too
Again Keeper seriously??
Mayo won't be losing too much sleep at the prospect of playing either of these teams.
Hard luck to all the mayo and Galway trolls here
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Hard luck to all the mayo and Galway trolls here
Of which there were
none on this topic!
Truth is Sligo are a very average team. Roscommon gave them an 8 point lead. Roscommon are nothing special, expect them to likely face Mayo who will beat them easily.
Excellent response from Ros in the second half.Will give the Connacht final a good rattle
Sligo in fairness tried very hard some good individual players.
Marren loss immeasurable
Tommy or Tom obviously gives Galway no chance, as he said McHale and K Mcstay are off to Castlebar.
Roscommon able to create goal chances. They must have had 10 goal chances today. That makes them dangerous opponents in final for Galway or Mayo.
Quote from: maigheo on June 12, 2016, 05:40:54 PM
Excellent response from Ros in the second half.Will give the Connacht final a good rattle
That was a very impressive second half from Roscommon surely. That will give Walsh and Rochford plenty to think about.
Quote from: moysider on June 12, 2016, 05:44:58 PM
Roscommon able to create goal chances. They must have had 10 goal chances today. That makes them dangerous opponents in final for Galway or Mayo.
But those chances due to Sligo total lack of athleticism around the middle, their full back line had no chance. Mayo will match that. Also Aidan o Shea or O Connor at Full Foward will have a field day.
FFs even Jarlath Burns dismissing Galway!! Jaybus not so long ago the Sunday Game used to be drooling over Galway.
I was wondering if our lads lacked heart at half-time. It was worse than last year in the first half when you'd have expected us to be ready to burst through walls. Got some answer in the second half. Collins was brilliant when he came on and David Keenan was everywhere even if he wasted a couple balls. To win the second half by 17 points - wow. Enda Smith's goal was a thing of beauty too. Nice to see the laughing cut short too.
I said +7 before the match and some of ye questioned how dare I make that sort of prediction. Well after the dust settles the only thing that was wrong was I was too conservative.
That first half will not be good enough in any of our remaining matches. Roll on July 10th.
syfergus keep dreaming as that ros team will be blown away by mayo imo
Defenders can be much more easily coached - see Donegal.
Natural forwards are at a premium.
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
Quote from: moysider on June 12, 2016, 05:44:58 PM
Roscommon able to create goal chances. They must have had 10 goal chances today. That makes them dangerous opponents in final for Galway or Mayo.
Agreed. They're poor around the middle though and unless they do something to remedy that, they'll struggle to make a QF
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Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
Wind got stronger maybe. A tactical genius he is not.
A 17 point swing in a half will take some explaining
Players wilted in the second half after the first goal. Losing two of our leaders in Marren and Harrison in the first half didn't help.
We've four or five really good young players in the likes of Hughes, Murphy, McDonnell, Cawley and Bregeny who we need to build the team around in the coming years and hopefully in 3 or 4 years we won't be whipping boys anymore.
I would be worried if I was a Rossie though given their aspirations. They were in real trouble there against as poor a Sligo side in 20 years and had we been smarter we could have seen it out.
We've a young side but our mental fragility is a big worry, we completely fold when things start turning against us.
Haven't seen the game back but I thought we definitely should have had a free out for the Roscommon penalty as I think Flanagan had his heels clipped as he was going for the kickout?
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
Well I think what he said was stupid. He played up Sligo. He should have been telling everyone how Roscommon were all Ireland contenders and Sligo were underdogs. Rossies would lap that up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
As Eammon O'Hara would say, what's black and white and gets hammered in Connacht every summer?
It's nice of you to be concerned about us but ye'd want to look after your own house first.
Comisterations to the rest of the Sligo lads.
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
You are raving lad, Roscommon toyed with ye in the second half and are still without a good few of their best players, worry about leitrim and new York as that is who ye are near to.
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.
Marginally above average is how I would describe them.
Quote from: Mclf on June 12, 2016, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
You are raving lad, Roscommon toyed with ye in the second half and are still without a good few of their best players, worry about leitrim and new York as that is who ye are near to.
Toyed with us and were what, 3 points up with a few minutes to go?
As I said Sligo have serious problems, as poor as we have been for 20 years, lost the nucleus of our team under Walsh and are currently in a major rebuilding phase and we probably should have seen it out had we been a bit shrewder. But Roscommon are not much better than us and the games between them in the last two years show that.
Sligo are in a poor state at the minute, Roscommon are little better if their Championship performances are anything to go by. If Roscommon are planning on being where they think they should be they shouldn't be 8 points down to us at HT and they shouldn't be only a score ahead with minutes remaining in the game. The problem that seems to be prevalent with Roscommon is that they have codded themselves into thinking they are a level above other teams, it's why they've been dumped out of the last two Championships despite starting games as favourites.
Roscommon a step further than last year. Have got to the Connacht final and last 12 at least. Also won enough games to stay in Division One against Division One teams as opposed to Winning enough games against Division Two teams last year to get into Division One.
Don't be fooled by today's Topsy turvey game. This was Sligos biggest game of the year. It was not Roscommons (if they have any ambition). The same can be said for Mayo (if they beat Galway), it will be Roscommons biggest game. That said if they lose to Mayo their last 12 game will be just as important. Quarter Finals is where it is about in the GAA Season.
The Rossies are still tweaking, but are going in the right direction.
Quote from: Itchy on June 12, 2016, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
Well I think what he said was stupid. He played up Sligo. He should have been telling everyone how Roscommon were all Ireland contenders and Sligo were underdogs. Rossies would lap that up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
Maybe he should but I don't disagree with what he said. I don't think there is much of a gap between the two sides, they might be better than us and have more depth than us but not by the levels certain people think. We beat them last year and could well have repeated that today but so be it.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2016, 07:57:45 PM
Roscommon a step further than last year. Have got to the Connacht final and last 12 at least. Also won enough games to stay in Division One against Division One teams as opposed to Winning enough games against Division Two teams last year to get into Division One.
Don't be fooled by today's Topsy turvey game. This was Sligos biggest game of the year. It was not Roscommons (if they have any ambition). The same can be said for Mayo (if they beat Galway), it will be Roscommons biggest game. That said if they lose to Mayo their last 12 game will be just as important. Quarter Finals is where it is about in the GAA Season.
The Rossies are still tweaking, but are going in the right direction.
Are they though? I don't see how you can say that after beating Div 4 and Div 3 teams.
Down got to Div 1 of the National League so I'm not sure that's the barometer it used to be.
With current squad down would go to 3 after next year thiough. I think they are an exception.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2016, 07:57:45 PM
Roscommon a step further than last year. Have got to the Connacht final and last 12 at least. Also won enough games to stay in Division One against Division One teams as opposed to Winning enough games against Division Two teams last year to get into Division One.
Don't be fooled by today's Topsy turvey game. This was Sligos biggest game of the year. It was not Roscommons (if they have any ambition). The same can be said for Mayo (if they beat Galway), it will be Roscommons biggest game. That said if they lose to Mayo their last 12 game will be just as important. Quarter Finals is where it is about in the GAA Season.
The Rossies are still tweaking, but are going in the right direction.
Are they though? I don't see how you can say that after beating Div 4 and Div 3 teams.
Down got to Div 1 of the National League so I'm not sure that's the barometer it used to be.
Yes but unlike Down they got results to stay in Div One. As McStay said before the start of the League campaign, You are not a Division One team until you stay in Division One.
I'm not saying Roscommon are world beaters, just they have moved up a level.
Reckon both Smiths could start the final. We saw what we were missing while Enda was out today, he's just one of those players that loves to drive around players and he's awful hard to deal with with the ball in hand. It was great to see Donie showing what anyone who follows Roscommon football knows he's capable of.
Another poor display from Cathal Cregg today. Despite his undoubted talent, these ineffective performances from him are becoming more frequent.
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
Not too many neutrals support poor Ros. Something about being so handsome.
The sooner Carew is run the better for Sligo but it's not like year had much luck with managers, Flanagan was only average and fled after a year and Walsh stayed about two years too long. Having seen O'Hara up close in Ballagh I wouldn't be running out to get him involved either.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.
Marginally above average is how I would describe them.
Ah now who calls us a sleeping giant. We are one of the most sparsely populated counties in Ireland. If Dublin had our pick and resources I can safely say you'd have won sweet feck all in last 150 years. At least we rise above our station every now and then and will do so again, probably sooner than you think.
A very disjointed performance today with some series flaws exposed again but going into Connacht final with dampened expectations is ideal. However I immensely enjoyed the football we played in second half and delighted to see both Smiths back and pray we'll have Diarmuid and a few others fit for Connacht final.
Hard luck to Sligo but you had us seriously sweating at half time. Best of luck in next round.
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
Not too many neutrals support poor Ros. Something about being so handsome.
I do have some Roscommon heritage which might explain it.
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.
Marginally above average is how I would describe them.
Ah now who calls us a sleeping giant. We are one of the most sparsely populated counties in Ireland. If Dublin had our pick and resources I can safely say you'd have won sweet feck all in last 150 years. At least we rise above our station every now and then and will do so again, probably sooner than you think.
A very disjointed performance today with some series flaws exposed again but going into Connacht final with dampened expectations is ideal. However I immensely enjoyed the football we played in second half and delighted to see both Smiths back and pray we'll have Diarmuid and a few others fit for Connacht final.
Hard luck to Sligo but you had us seriously sweating at half time. Best of luck in next round.
Dublin have nothing to do with it. If you were playing Cavan I think they'd beat you
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.
Marginally above average is how I would describe them.
Ah now who calls us a sleeping giant. We are one of the most sparsely populated counties in Ireland. If Dublin had our pick and resources I can safely say you'd have won sweet feck all in last 150 years. At least we rise above our station every now and then and will do so again, probably sooner than you think.
A very disjointed performance today with some series flaws exposed again but going into Connacht final with dampened expectations is ideal. However I immensely enjoyed the football we played in second half and delighted to see both Smiths back and pray we'll have Diarmuid and a few others fit for Connacht final.
Hard luck to Sligo but you had us seriously sweating at half time. Best of luck in next round.
Dublin have nothing to do with it. If you were playing Cavan I think they'd beat you
Well we met in championship for last two years after demoralising defeats and we won handy enough. No doubt they have improved and I hope they win Ulster.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 12, 2016, 07:52:14 PM
The more I see of Roscommon the more it baffles me that they are considered this sleeping giant.
Marginally above average is how I would describe them.
Roscommon has the same population as Swords
They're doing ok considering the pick they have
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
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Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: sligoman on June 12, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
Do you?
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Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
Do you?
Yep. Good luck tell if yourself you're not a good bit off us after that second half because it takes some serious mental gymnastics to achieve. We have about 5 or 6 starters out and we still ran the table in the second half.
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Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
Do you?
Yep. Good luck tell if yourself you're not a good bit off us after that second half because it takes some serious mental gymnastics to achieve. We have about 5 or 6 starters out and we still ran the table in the second half.
And what did the first half and last year's fixture tell you?
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Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
We have a good midfielder playing full back and McIntyre is usually decent but was poor enough today and didn't get round the pitch. Midfield whether you like it or not is a problem position for Ross. Shine is decent but not very mobile, Higgins has never really convinced.
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Quote from: Mano on June 12, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
We have a good midfielder playing full back and McIntyre is usually decent but was poor enough today and didn't get round the pitch. Midfield whether you like it or not is a problem position for Ross. Shine is decent but not very mobile, Higgins has never really convinced.
Higgins was PotY in his last season, sadly it was 2014. Confusing Donie with Cathal. Cathal has a great motor for a big lad, as good as either of the O'Sheas in that regard. Together they were a rock solid pairing in 2014 for us. Compton and Corcoran are young lads we'll see more of. Ian Kilbride our starting midfielder from 2015 and the league is out injured too.
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Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
If we are at such a crossroads maybe it's time to get a local man in to manage the team and save a lot of money on expenses, mileage or whatever the managers payments are called now. Last time we had a Sligo man we won Nestor. It's obvious he doesn't learn from mistakes and hasn't a clue tactically.
While Sligo had a good first half and tried to make lighting strike twice with another shock result it must be said their 8 point lead was extremely flattering today helped by Roscommon gifting about 2-4. Second half was one way traffic 4-10 to 0-5 the gap between a div one and three team was clear to see and Roscommon could easily have won by 15+ points
This Roscommon team are very much work in progress and probably had two targets at the start of this year under their new management team.
1) stay up in div one
2) reach the All Ireland quarter final via the front or back.
Only one win away from achieving those targets now.
Agree completely Mano. Carew hasn't a clue and we need a local man back at the helm. No blow in mercenaries are going to save us, especially ones that continually make the same mistakes and listen to the wrong people and it's patently clear who is in his ear. I saw plenty of comments about our keeper - our best keeper played for NY this year because of the manager. We had guys well past it and lads not ready out there. Too many passengers and even some of our better lads didn't play well.
Really we could have conceded 7 or 8 goals today. And it wasn't a top 4 team this time (don't overreact Rossies, Ye may get there but Ye are not there yet).
I'm pretty disgusted with the whole thing. We haven't seen the county lads in about 6 weeks. Apparently in Kilkenny all the hurlers played with their clubs two weeks ago, as it should be. That's the one change I'd make if I was county Chairman in the morning and we'd be much better off for it. Mollycoddling doesn't f**king work.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 12, 2016, 10:38:14 PM
While Sligo had a good first half and tried to make lighting strike twice with another shock result it must be said their 8 point lead was extremely flattering today helped by Roscommon gifting about 2-4. Second half was one way traffic 4-10 to 0-5 the gap between a div one and three team was clear to see and Roscommon could easily have won by 15+ points
This Roscommon team are very much work in progress and probably had two targets at the start of this year under their new management team.
1) stay up in div one
2) reach the All Ireland quarter final via the front or back.
They are always a work in progress . Why is that ?
Only one win away from achieving those targets now.
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 13, 2016, 12:56:54 AM
Agree completely Mano. Carew hasn't a clue and we need a local man back at the helm. No blow in mercenaries are going to save us, especially ones that continually make the same mistakes and listen to the wrong people and it's patently clear who is in his ear. I saw plenty of comments about our keeper - our best keeper played for NY this year because of the manager. We had guys well past it and lads not ready out there. Too many passengers and even some of our better lads didn't play well.
Really we could have conceded 7 or 8 goals today. And it wasn't a top 4 team this time (don't overreact Rossies, Ye may get there but Ye are not there yet).
I'm pretty disgusted with the whole thing. We haven't seen the county lads in about 6 weeks. Apparently in Kilkenny all the hurlers played with their clubs two weeks ago, as it should be. That's the one change I'd make if I was county Chairman in the morning and we'd be much better off for it. Mollycoddling doesn't f**king work.
club games should be used as a break from the county setup and to give players game time
We threw it up to Ross in first with the wind. The black card was a killer it has to be said, but Ross way the better side. We were wide open at times and could have conceded a whole lot more. Roscommon are not quite the team I thought they were but are getting there. I do think they'll challenge Mayo however.
It's also time for Carew to go. The word on him has been decent but we haven't improved over the last 12 months. He's given what he can give but that's it now. Personally I'm sick of these county managers touring the country picking up cheques. He obviously doesn't give a damn about our club game, I suppose why should he, but another year in charge we'll go back ways.
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
I don't know how we were 8 points up at half time. In my opinion, the only Sligo player that really played well was Pat Hughes who scored five points from play and tormented the Roscommon back line.
We have a very young full back line and our half backs were poor enough in the second half. Once the sweeper (Gaughan) was replaced, Roscommon had a field day.
Still, there was only 4 points in the game going into the 69th minute.
At least Carew had not been afraid to bring in young talent, most of that team yesterday are in their early 20's (Kyle Cawley is 18 it think). The second half was like a horror film.
On the bright side, we have some good minors coming up and I think we will be decent in a few years. Congrats to Roscommon, the better team won no doubt but at least we gave ye a good kick up the arse in the first half,
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
I would agree with all of that. In fairness that performance yesterday might dampen a bit of the hype and help in the days leading up to the final. I don't think you'll beat Mayo but fully expect to see you in a QF against Kerry.
Any half clued-in manager would have swarmed their defence for the first 10 minutes to protect that 8 point lead
Was ridiculous
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.
Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the basic errors we repeatedly make
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.
Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the basic errors we repeatedly make
Would agree with most of that. Think Enda needs to start the final, and Donie Smith doesn't look too far off his brother either.
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.
Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the basic errors we repeatedly make
And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward line have been excellent all year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.
Quote from: Rudi on June 13, 2016, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on June 13, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.
Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the basic errors we repeatedly make
And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward have been excellent this year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.
I'd agree with Cregg being pulled back to try pullmig a Francie with in. Use his workhorse mentality and physicality. We need a 6 more than anything else right now.
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Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on June 13, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.
Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the basic errors we repeatedly make
And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward line have been excellent all year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.
the time for trying out for this year is over. a final isnt the place anyway. we lost a yr or two development with JE IMO.
rudi i'd drop fintan. it's a tough decision and he has played well but I think he is just a little slow to release possession and prone to taking wrong options.
you could easily pick any 4 from Kilbride, smith x2; shine, cregg x2, connolly, harney, devaney and you won't be any worst or better off. murtaghs are a touch above them I think and when fit should always start.
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 13, 2016, 12:34:30 PM
I don't know how we were 8 points up at half time. In my opinion, the only Sligo player that really played well was Pat Hughes who scored five points from play and tormented the Roscommon back line.
We have a very young full back line and our half backs were poor enough in the second half. Once the sweeper (Gaughan) was replaced, Roscommon had a field day.
Still, there was only 4 points in the game going into the 69th minute.
At least Carew had not been afraid to bring in young talent, most of that team yesterday are in their early 20's (Kyle Cawley is 18 it think). The second half was like a horror film.
On the bright side, we have some good minors coming up and I think we will be decent in a few years. Congrats to Roscommon, the better team won no doubt but at least we gave ye a good kick up the arse in the first half,
Cawley is 19. He was a minor last year. Massive prospect
Ros this year remind me greatly of Mayo in 1996. Good league run that ended with a question mark. A near disaster in London was followed by a struggle in Roscommon before a good win in Connacht final. Ros now have three games played and while not overly impressive they are showing a degree of resolve. If Mayo overcome Galway on Saturday I expect a battle in the final. Expect McStay to have a plan to negate Mayo midfield.
McFOD will have loved how impossible the semifinal is to decifier. Good luck Rochford, we played like a D4 team in the first half and like Dublin in the second half, all without bothering our arses to play an actual midfielder.
There will be some look on their faces when we start John Newton and Tom Ryan in the CF :D
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2016, 10:43:17 PM
McFOD will have loved how impossible the semifinal is to decifier. Good luck Rochford, we played like a D4 team in the first half and like Dublin in the second half, all without bothering our arses to play an actual midfielder.
Played like Dublin, my God you are the most deluded person I've ever come across.
McFOD might have as much trouble deciphering the semifinal as Rochford does!
Maybe Kevin Walsh will have the job of breaking the Rosigma code yet though!
Quote from: Itchy on June 13, 2016, 11:26:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2016, 10:43:17 PM
McFOD will have loved how impossible the semifinal is to decifier. Good luck Rochford, we played like a D4 team in the first half and like Dublin in the second half, all without bothering our arses to play an actual midfielder.
Played like Dublin, my God you are the most deluded person I've ever come across.
Well we did come within 1 point if them in a competitive game and would have drawn if C Murtagh hadn't skidded with that late free.
Quote from: moysider on June 13, 2016, 11:41:07 PM
McFOD might have as much trouble deciphering the semifinal as Rochford does!
Maybe Kevin Walsh will have the job of breaking the Rosigma code yet though!
Bit less of the poor mouth would do you good Moy, never in my lifetime have Mayo and Galway been so far apart. Kevin Walsh should be looking at what he has to do to get a response in R2 of the Qualifiers.
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Quote from: Rudi on June 13, 2016, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on June 13, 2016, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2016, 12:18:28 PM
Some awful junior B stuff from us yesterday mixed with some great stuff in the 2nd half.Thatt 2nd quarter was a disgrace.
Still trying to come to terms with that turnaround. 4-10 to 0-5 !!!!
Lot of thinking for management - put in some bloody midfielders and where will we get a half back line?
Also our 3 starting full forwards ( Syfín's heroes) need to be benched and let the Smiths and hopefully Diarmuid start.
1-2 from our starting FF line over 3 quarter of the game, 1-3 from the Smiths in the last 15 minutes.
Qe are where we wanted to be but by Jaysus are we a work in progress.....
Still a lot to do and it will be next Spring before McFod ( a Syfínism) get their right starting 15 on the field.
Meanwhile anything us possible ...from disaster to an AI SF......
either Donie or Senan should play not both. Cregg should be in the half forward line.
Senan was involved in 3/6 of the first half scores. set up a goal chance for cregg. scored the goal and laid off for the 7th point also was the player who won the penalty and still didn't play well!
need to work on the basic errors we repeatedly make
And who exactly would give way to facilitate Cregg? The half forward line have been excellent all year. I think Cregg should be tried out in the half backline, other than Murray we are poor here. Would agree that Senan and Donie can't play in the same line. Senan did ok yesterday, bar a couple of good passes and a fine point the game passed Donie by. Sligo were shocking poor in the second half and were lucky not to concede 10 goals over the course of the game.
the time for trying out for this year is over. a final isnt the place anyway. we lost a yr or two development with JE IMO.
rudi i'd drop fintan. it's a tough decision and he has played well but I think he is just a little slow to release possession and prone to taking wrong options.
you could easily pick any 4 from Kilbride, smith x2; shine, cregg x2, connolly, harney, devaney and you won't be any worst or better off. murtaghs are a touch above them I think and when fit should always start.
Cathal Cregg played centre back/sweeper in at least one FBD game this year. The one in Croans for definite and did well, though it goes without saying the opposition and pace is on a different planet to this time of year. But shows management are considering this option. I was actually a bit disappointed to see him in the FF line for the league. He has a bit of ball carrying ability I was hoping to see more of in our problem CB position. We have more forwards than we've ever had. And a dearth of half backs. I assume the management have dismissed his redeployment to this area based on evidence in games/training.
Fintan Cregg I would not drop. For me our most important player this year. Looks the leader of the team to my eyes. We have no midfield and this lad does more than anyone to paper over those cracks. Always looking for ball and willing to handle it in dangerous areas, including on Sunday when he wasn't having his best game. There was one point early in the second half where we got a free in our left half back position. We are desperately needing leadership to get back in the game and put scores on the board. No show-ers, free taker thinking of popping back to the full back line as a restart. F Cregg made a burst from the HF line right up through midfield demanding ball from the free taker, in a fairly populated and dangerous area. He gathered the ball and set us motoring. These small acts of leadership are huge, especially in the context of yesterday's game and the time it happened in. We are most definitely brittle mentally. Fintan Cregg is not one of these and is first name on team sheet for me.
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Quote from: moysider on June 13, 2016, 11:41:07 PM
McFOD might have as much trouble deciphering the semifinal as Rochford does!
Maybe Kevin Walsh will have the job of breaking the Rosigma code yet though!
Bit less of the poor mouth would do you good Moy, never in my lifetime have Mayo and Galway been so far apart. Kevin Walsh should be looking at what he has to do to get a response in R2 of the Qualifiers.
Not poor mouthing at all. While I think we should beat Galway, you take nothing for granted in football or any sport for that matter, or you end up biting dust. Like Anthony Finnerty said today '' It's ingrained in me to be wary of Galway''. In the past Mayo teams that appeared to be better than Galway got turned over but the opposite has never happened. I'm coming from that perspective as well.
Outsiders might think that Mayo is AI or bust but you can be sure Rochford doesn't want to fcku up Connacht on his watch, and the Galway game in Castlebar and a potential final there as well. One game at a time.
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Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
We have a good midfielder playing full back and McIntyre is usually decent but was poor enough today and didn't get round the pitch. Midfield whether you like it or not is a problem position for Ross. Shine is decent but not very mobile, Higgins has never really convinced.
Higgins was PotY in his last season, sadly it was 2014. Confusing Donie with Cathal. Cathal has a great motor for a big lad, as good as either of the O'Sheas in that regard. Together they were a rock solid pairing in 2014 for us. Compton and Corcoran are young lads we'll see more of. Ian Kilbride our starting midfielder from 2015 and the league is out injured too.
Harold and Findon made shit of that "rock solid pairing" in 2014 as you meekly exited the Championship to Armagh.
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Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
We have a good midfielder playing full back and McIntyre is usually decent but was poor enough today and didn't get round the pitch. Midfield whether you like it or not is a problem position for Ross. Shine is decent but not very mobile, Higgins has never really convinced.
Higgins was PotY in his last season, sadly it was 2014. Confusing Donie with Cathal. Cathal has a great motor for a big lad, as good as either of the O'Sheas in that regard. Together they were a rock solid pairing in 2014 for us. Compton and Corcoran are young lads we'll see more of. Ian Kilbride our starting midfielder from 2015 and the league is out injured too.
Harold and Findon made shit of that "rock solid pairing" in 2014 as you meekly exited the Championship to Armagh.
I think Roscommon were in Division 3 that year
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Great astute management. Poor defence but when you are 8 points up against a superior team you get 12/13 players behind the ball. No defensive plan
I wonder how Carew is going to spin being ran off the field when the match was in the melting pot. 1/5 he mentions Harrison's injury (he had been relatively ineffectual) and Marren's black card. Knows he can beat us is it. Well..
What's your gripe with what Carew said in the buildup?
The bottom line is a Sligo side who are one of the 10 bottom teams in the country, have the begging bowl out in terms of resources and have a small pool of quality players and they had you in real bother today and beat you convincingly last year.
All I can say is that I will take some enjoyment when you come up against a decent side. Mayo will have you by 10 points and we're much closer to Roscommon than Roscommon are to Mayo.
What is he writing for the local paper anyway? Is he been paid to write for the paper? Was the previous writer removed from the job because of his criticism of the managers lack of tactics, selection etc..
3 of the results he he presided over as Sligo manager make interesting reading
Ross 6-18 Sligo 0-12 under 21 2015
Mayo 6-25 Sligo 2-11
Ross 4-16 Sligo 2-13
The lad doesn't have a clue about modern tactical setups. We have some poor enough players in defence weaker than last year with Donovan leaving but when you turn around at halftime 8 points up you put extra defenders in there.
Don't agree on you opinion on Ross. They are far superior team to Sligo. They did seem to forgot the damage that Hughes and Marren are capable of though. Even without several players they just ran though some awful defending in the second half. Mayo or Galway will be a proper test for them and we will see what they are made of then. But they are definitely headed in a right direction and best of luck to them. I personally hope they win it even though Syffin is bit annoying.
I agree that he has big questions to answer over our set up and tactically but he is presiding over a difficult time and I don't know whether a new manager will do much better.
We've lost lots of key players from the Walsh/Breheny regime in recent years and the other lads just aren't up to it, yet anyway.
When you look at our defence there is little we can do with it. McDonnell is a midfielder, Flanagan, Devaney and Maye are only in their second season of intercounty football, Harrison and Egan are well in their 30s now and will probably call it a day after this campaign.
If we were able to play some of our better players in their natural positions we would be a good teams but sadly we can't afford to free up McDonnell into midfield, Breheny and Murphy into the forward line and so on. There's a severe lack of good footballers with the required physicality in Sligo right now.
I don't think the equation adds up that Roscommon are much better than us if our manager is clueless and doesn't know what he's at yet he's beaten a Roscommon team last year and gave them a hell of a shock this time round. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - Roscommon aren't that much better us and Carew isn't completely clueless. He deserves criticism but this a limited group of Sligo player seeing a big turnover of players who have served us well down the years.
Ewing, Harrison, Breheny, Marren and Egan are the only survivors of the 2012 side that narrowly lost to Mayo and 4 of them are into their 30s and will probably call it a day after this season. What's a realistic expectation for us?
We have some good midfielders that just aren't fit right now. Sligo have none, fit or not.
We have a good midfielder playing full back and McIntyre is usually decent but was poor enough today and didn't get round the pitch. Midfield whether you like it or not is a problem position for Ross. Shine is decent but not very mobile, Higgins has never really convinced.
Higgins was PotY in his last season, sadly it was 2014. Confusing Donie with Cathal. Cathal has a great motor for a big lad, as good as either of the O'Sheas in that regard. Together they were a rock solid pairing in 2014 for us. Compton and Corcoran are young lads we'll see more of. Ian Kilbride our starting midfielder from 2015 and the league is out injured too.
Harold and Findon made shit of that "rock solid pairing" in 2014 as you meekly exited the Championship to Armagh.
I think Roscommon were in Division 3 that year
And went in as strong favourites for the game against an Armagh side relegated to Div 3.
You'd have made a lot of money laying Roscommon in Championship games over the past 4/5 years.
A real Jekyll and Hyde performance if there ever was one.That game on Sunday basically summed up everything good and bad about this Roscommon side.
We have a big problem at midfield in terms of physicality and is a worry going into a Connacht Final against either side with no problems in that area.
However something is telling me that our management will have something in terms of tactics/different personnel to hopefully combat that weakness.
A couple of things we can take from this game is 1) Collins is one of our most important players now in terms of leadership/presence and has to start at 3 the next day.
2)Our half forward line contributed to everything good we did throughout the game and really will be hard to drop any of these.
3) We need an inside forward line that includes a fit D Murtagh to have a chance against a top side.
4)Enda Smith will have to have a bigger say in the next game.
5) We don't seem to have any defensive system in place which is a huge worry as top teams will destroy us without proper protection for our full back line.
HB line, midfield and FF line all need major improvement.
We have the forwards to rectify the FF line.
We have a number of midfielders in various stages of recovery
Compton light 21 year old, Corcoran who has about 10 minutes of Senior Inter co football, C Shine who hopefully will be able to play in the CF, Higgins who is unlikely to be ready.
HB line - a good no 6 badly required
We also need someone in the FBD line who can deal with big garryowens boomed in on top of us.
So if we meet Galway we might win a score fest but is as likely it's th'other lot then a single figure defeat is the best we can hope for.
My only worry with Compton playing against the big hairy bullocks is them landing clumsily on him. Poor lad has had too many injuries than he deserves. Talent-wise he's as good as any of Mayo's midfielders but he may not be there physically yet. Cathal had a bib on before the match but wasn't really warming up. If he was flying I'd be very confident we could give Mayo a proper game.
I can see us crowding the middle third with players and trying to set up a line across the middle trying to negate the influence Mayo (i believe they will beat galway) have around this area.
Using maybe E Smith or C Cregg as extra runners with our half forward line and possibly Shine and Corcaran starting in the middle with these backed up by Keenan,Daly and Murray/McManus.
Emptying the bench in the 2nd half with the likes of Compton,Higgins,Harney (if both are fit) D Smith will hopefully inject some extra pace when needed and give us a chance to stay within touching distance.
Isolating Murtagh and possibly Shine inside will hopefully garner enough scores to keep us in the game long enough to maybe cause a shock but that's a big if.
Quote from: theyellowbus on June 14, 2016, 12:56:00 PM
I can see us crowding the middle third with players and trying to set up a line across the middle trying to negate the influence Mayo (i believe they will beat galway) have around this area.
Using maybe E Smith or C Cregg as extra runners with our half forward line and possibly Shine and Corcaran starting in the middle with these backed up by Keenan,Daly and Murray/McManus.
Emptying the bench in the 2nd half with the likes of Compton,Higgins,Harney (if both are fit) D Smith will hopefully inject some extra pace when needed and give us a chance to stay within touching distance.
Isolating Murtagh and possibly Shine inside will hopefully garner enough scores to keep us in the game long enough to maybe cause a shock but that's a big if.
Would be extremely surprised to see Shine and Corcoran start. You can nearly count on your hands the minutes they've played combined this year. Shine has some chance but Tom Corcoran even though I'd rate him as our best midfielder at underage of recent years and in the mold of the sort of player were in desperate need of he doesn't seem to be featuring. Based on what I've seen Compton is nearer starting than either for the CF. Ideally I'd be pairing Shine with one of the younger lads but injuries and the like means we've never even seen that combination. Would be the most ballsy and out of character selection by McFOD for two of the three to start the CF.
6 is as big as midfield for us, maybe even more so. CF isn't the place to be experimenting but Mulhooly looked mad for ball when moved out and showed in flashes his ability. Built for either 3 or 6 but his youth means his discipline can let him down, more so in being too willing to go into attack than just sitting back rather than fouling. Such a young lad but he has a big future imho.
Yeah Syf but maybe now is the time to be ballsy.How many times have we gone to Castlebar in the last 10/12 years playing Mayo and been on the end of some awful bad defeats because we didn't try something different.
I genuinely believe we have one chance to win this and that means getting everything from preparation to team selection spot on.I have no doubt that the management will leave no stone unturned in terms of getting a result.I also believe that we will see some different names on the team sheet as i do think the lads have been keeping some of their tactics/best 15 under their sleeves.
They know that to have a chance to beat a top 4 team like Mayo they need something different.
What that is is anyone's guess.However all i do know is if we set up like we have so far since the league semi final we are in for another big defeat.